Can someone break down how promotion points work for the Army National Guard or even if it varies state to state? I am in Ohio. Cheers

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 30 Jun 2015 17:33:58 -0400

Does anyone have break down of how many points awards, pt, weapons qual etc in particular to ssg

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 30 at 2015 5:41 PM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 30 Jun 2015 17:41:23 -0400

All of the states on the same in relations how they do points. All soldiers in you MOS and Grade are promoted based on an order of merit list based on your promotion points. If there is a vacancy and you have the most points then you are going to get promoted.

I would look up NGR 600-200 and some AR 600-8-19 for further info.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 30 at 2015 5:53 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 30 Jun 2015 17:53:13 -0400

SGT your NCOER is 60% of the rankings. They are doing away with boards and going to a paper board. Yes your weapons qual has weight but not like it did in the past. I know a buddy of mine in my unit are both in the E7 list and he has a law degree and I beat his and all I have is a HS diploma. Your NCOER is EVERYTHING!

Response by SSG Damon Lightfoot made Jun 30 at 2015 5:56 PM

SSG Damon Lightfoot — Tue, 30 Jun 2015 17:56:58 -0400

I know it doesn't necessarily matter how many points you have, but rather if there is a slot open, which is rare in the NG world since there are a lot of E6's that already come over from active. At least that's how it was when I was in the NG in CA in the early 2000's. Good luck to you. Just check first if there are any slots available for promotion in your MOS, that way you don't waste your time with the points calculation forms if there is no slots.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 30 at 2015 6:02 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 30 Jun 2015 18:02:26 -0400

It has a lot to do with NCOER and available positions. I am reserve and for me to be promoted, I would have to elect to go to a different unit or forgo the promotion.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 30 at 2015 6:33 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 30 Jun 2015 18:33:51 -0400

Cannot speak for other states but, as for Kansas, SSD is the key.

Response by MAJ Ken Landgren made Jun 30 at 2015 6:43 PM

MAJ Ken Landgren — Tue, 30 Jun 2015 18:43:24 -0400

You might get help from a powerful and high ranking officer.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 30 at 2015 7:27 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 30 Jun 2015 19:27:41 -0400

I would be glad to offer my guidance, I am a 42A, formerly from my Brigade S1. I see that you are currently an E5, the current policy per AR 600-8-19, which covers enlisted promotions states that you are aware anywhere from 0-75 points depending on how well you perform in several areas. These areas include:
Weapon Qualifications -75 points for expert, 50 for sharpshooter, 25 for marksman.
APFT- 5 points for a score of 180, all the way to 75 points for a score of 300.
Awards- you earn up to 75 points for the major awards; ARCOM-20, AAM-15, DRIVER BADGE-5, ICM/ACM-10 POINTS...etc
Civilian education- you get 1 point for each college credit, up to 60 points for an Associate Degree, or 75 for a Bachelor Degree.
Finally, you also receive points for longevity, 3 points each year for time in service, and 5 points for each year in grade.

This will give you a maximum score of 450 Administration points, you will also receive a number of leadership points, once you are boarded along with the rest of the E5s in your state. You will only compete directly with the other E5s in your MOS.

Hope this helps!

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 30 at 2015 7:58 PM

1SG Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 30 Jun 2015 19:58:32 -0400

SGT Sanchez- I'm in the OHARNG and have been for 21 years. The promotion boards are different now than they ever have been. Yes your APFT score, weapons qual, and awards play a parts, but it would behoove you to ask your PSG for the AAR from this years promotion board. Each year the president of the board set a baseline which could be a number of things from a certain APFT score to SSD complete, or what NCOES you have completed. What criteria they use may change a bit from year to year so the best advice I can give you is; get to or keep a high APFT score, complete SSD and NCOES one level above what you need for you next promotion, continuing education, whether college or correspondence course. If you need any other guidance let me know. Your in the 1-148th INF. I was a 1SG for the Forward Support Company from 2013 until February of this year when transferred back to my side of the state.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 30 at 2015 9:07 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 30 Jun 2015 21:07:31 -0400

Talk to your squad leader or S1!!

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 1 at 2015 2:21 PM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 01 Jul 2015 14:21:16 -0400

give an example I am on the list for E6 this year. even tho all my points 118 wasnt put in but thats another story. I am 12th on the list and am down for state wide. So because I am willing to go state wide I am now 5th on the list. I dont look at the points I look at who is state wide, who is down for x amount miles from home and who doesnt want to leave their unit. Oh and the ones who will retire or get out. If the 118 points was added I would be 3rd and 2 on the state wide list. yes this has nothing to do with points but just wanted to put in my 2 cents worth some where on this page today. Brothers and Sisters have a great day 2 day. ok!!

Response by SSG Joshua Burcham made Jul 2 at 2015 11:40 PM

SSG Joshua Burcham — Thu, 02 Jul 2015 23:40:34 -0400

I think someone has to die... then everyone rushes for the desk... who ever gets there first get the promotion... bit I could be wrong

Response by SSG Vincent Watkins made Jul 6 at 2015 3:19 PM

SSG Vincent Watkins — Mon, 06 Jul 2015 15:19:15 -0400

I have a class if you would like me to email it to you?

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 11 at 2015 3:20 AM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 11 Jul 2015 03:20:17 -0400

It all boils down to where you are on the promotion list, is there a slot, and if that slot is in another unit, are you willing to move/travel to that unit to accept the promotion? Things the others have said, APFT, SSD, WLC, college, NCOER rating, TIS, and awards will all play into where you fall on the list. Then there is the catch all I am in. I’m pretty sure there are SSG slots in my BN, and I am willing to go anywhere. However, without the lower enlisted to fill a vacant tank, I’m not getting promoted until someone else moves up. Fortunately that will be happening soon as a 1SGT is moving on. A MSG will take his place, a SFC will take the MSG’s place, and SSG will take the SFC’s place, and finally I’ll slide right in. I’m guessing four to five months and I’ll be SSG. Maybe sooner, my chevrons are crossed.