Posted on Apr 12, 2019
Can someone get a secondary MOS through on-the-job training?
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I'm a 42R and my collateral duty for the past seven years across a few units is as the supply sergeant. I've amassed all the training of a 92Y (armorer, GCSS-A. ARIMS, etc...). and all my CSDP inspections are at 98% or above. I consider myself to be a good supply technician, and have been the primary trainer for my battalion for the past two years. It's interesting work and something I would like to do after I get out of the Army.
My battalion S-4 NCOIC and the civilian COMET team instructor have both told me I should put in a DA 4187 to request and award of a secondary MOS (without going to the AIT course). I don't want to go to the school house, if I did, 92Y would become my primary MOS and I want to remain a bandsman for the time being.
My questions is, has anyone heard of this and if so, what does the administrative process look like? I found something in AR 350-1, Ch 3-21 called The Operational Credit Program. I'm not sure if this is what they are referring to though. Any help or advice is greatly appreciated.
My battalion S-4 NCOIC and the civilian COMET team instructor have both told me I should put in a DA 4187 to request and award of a secondary MOS (without going to the AIT course). I don't want to go to the school house, if I did, 92Y would become my primary MOS and I want to remain a bandsman for the time being.
My questions is, has anyone heard of this and if so, what does the administrative process look like? I found something in AR 350-1, Ch 3-21 called The Operational Credit Program. I'm not sure if this is what they are referring to though. Any help or advice is greatly appreciated.
Posted in these groups: 
92Y: Unit Supply Specialist
42A: Human Resources Specialist
420A: Human Resources Technician
92Y: Unit Supply Specialist 42A: Human Resources Specialist 420A: Human Resources Technician
Posted 5 y ago
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What you found in 350-1 is possible, though probably not where you work.
That program requires someone who is qualified to teach at the 92Y course to teach you locally at your unit. You may find someone in one of the brigades at Campbell who would qualify for this, but the way this is laid out you're not going to pass the Operational Credit Program without working directly in, and deploying with, an MTOE unit.
It would be quicker and easier to go to the school.
That program requires someone who is qualified to teach at the 92Y course to teach you locally at your unit. You may find someone in one of the brigades at Campbell who would qualify for this, but the way this is laid out you're not going to pass the Operational Credit Program without working directly in, and deploying with, an MTOE unit.
It would be quicker and easier to go to the school.
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SSG Keith Evans
Thank you for the feedback SGM, much appreciated. I am in a deployable MTOE unit, but regardless, I suspect you are correct. Thanks for taking the time to respond.
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Unfortunately, no it doesn't work like that. The only way to be considered qualified in an MOS is for the MOS proponent to certify that you are. Then you would have to submit a request through HRC to add it as a secondary MOS.
Also, having a second MOS in the active duty doesn't really mean anything. You won't be utilized in it, promoted in it, or assigned in a position for it. It won't provide you any promotion points and you can't choose to make it your primary MOS in the future. If you wanted to switch it to your primary MOS you would have to make a formal request to HRC who would decide which MOS is needed more.
Also, having a second MOS in the active duty doesn't really mean anything. You won't be utilized in it, promoted in it, or assigned in a position for it. It won't provide you any promotion points and you can't choose to make it your primary MOS in the future. If you wanted to switch it to your primary MOS you would have to make a formal request to HRC who would decide which MOS is needed more.
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While it is still available,I think it's pretty rare that the MOS is actually awarded. You can always submit a DA 4187 and supporting documents to your S1 or PAC
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