Can someone please tell me the AR on that a soldier NEEDS to have a certain amount of time left in the Army to attend BLC?

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 02 Sep 2020 16:10:58 -0400

I have a SPC in my squad who has been promotable since February. I asked back in May why he hasn't attended distance learning BLC yet. I was told because he had less than a year before ETS, which was in Dec. While I was in ALC last month. He extended for 6 more months, and still the same reason why he hasn't gone. Yes he is on the OML but I also had another soldier attend the E5 board back in May and he starts BLC this month. It just frustrates me to see this happening to a great soldier.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 2 at 2020 4:17 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 02 Sep 2020 16:17:59 -0400

I'm not trying to insult your intelligence or anything, just trying to get SA. Who did you ask, the PSG or OPs, someone else?

Response by SSG Dennis Mendoza made Sep 2 at 2020 4:24 PM

SSG Dennis Mendoza — Wed, 02 Sep 2020 16:24:03 -0400

"Time Remaining in Service Obligation for Military Schooling" https://www.hrc.army.mil/content/Time%20Remaining%20in%20Service%20Obligation%20for%20Military%20Schooling

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Response by SFC(P) Jonathan P. made Sep 2 at 2020 4:24 PM

SFC(P) Jonathan P. — Wed, 02 Sep 2020 16:24:52 -0400

Suppose the soldier is not within 12 months before ets, very unlikely the army will send him to school. Which could be the reason as to why he hasn’t been slotted. I just experienced the same last week I put it a request to send 3 of my guys to BLC while overseas and one of my guys is under 12 months for ets. He was denied the school. Now I’m not saying this is why it’s happening to you and your joe but this is what happened to me. During his extension he could of negotiated that in his contract prior to signing.

Response by SSG Brian G. made Sep 2 at 2020 4:30 PM

SSG Brian G. — Wed, 02 Sep 2020 16:30:49 -0400

This is what I got off the Army HRC site

https://www.hrc.army.mil/content/Time%20Remaining%20in%20Service%20Obligation%20for%20Military%20Schooling

"Regulatory guidance on the time remaining in service (TRS) obligation incurred after attending military schools is found in AR 614-200, Chapter 4 (Enlisted Assignments and Utilization Management).

Soldiers who are selected for and attend service schools incur a TRS obligation based on the length of the course. The TRS obligation commences upon completion of the course.

Soldiers with insufficient TRS to meet the prescribed TRS obligation must reenlist or extend before attending training.

The maximum TRS obligation for school attendance is 36 months. TRS requirements for some special training or career development programs may differ from those normally prescribed for military school attendance. Soldiers selected for special training programs must meet the TRS obligation prescribed for the program selected.

Soldiers who met the TRS requirement at the beginning of school attendance do not incur any additional TRS obligations if they are held over or recycled.

The TRS obligation is six months for Soldiers attending NCO Professional Development System courses, regardless of the length of the course, except for attendance at the U.S. Army Sergeants Major Course, which incurs a 24-month TRS obligation.

Voluntary retirements will not be approved for Soldiers until after they have completed all TRS obligations, to include those resulting from school attendance. Request for waiver will be forwarded through the Soldier's commander to CDR, HRC, ATTN: HRC-EPS-S, Fort Knox, KY 40122."

So by that the SM would need 6 months time remaining on their contract after completion of BLC.

Not to be a smartass but WHO told him he would not have enough time left?

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Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 2 at 2020 4:48 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 02 Sep 2020 16:48:30 -0400

AR 614-200 has a table that gives the breakdown of the SRR for training based on the length of training.
On the HRC website you’ll find a statement that says all NCOES must have at least six months from graduation date to attend. As for your SPC, most bases use an OML based on promotion points. That may be why he hasn’t attended yet

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 2 at 2020 5:03 PM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 02 Sep 2020 17:03:34 -0400

Just extend for another year and get it done

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 2 at 2020 5:35 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 02 Sep 2020 17:35:09 -0400

Sounds like you need to be that SSG and get cussed out until someone signs the form. We all know how it goes when trying to get a signature. You have to bare the brunt to keep them accountable.

Response by COL Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 3 at 2020 1:59 AM

COL Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 03 Sep 2020 01:59:51 -0400

If the leadership want to send him to school they would. If they don’t, he won’t. My BN received one pathfinder slot and I was selected for it. At the same time I had submitted a green to good application. I got accepted and would be out three months before my pathfinder course started. The first week I was at the course my company commander called and asked me why I was there when I was leaving in less than three months. Because I have TDY orders- duh! I called my platoon leader and he told me not to worry he would take care of the commander. Same commander that failed jumpmaster and called me the night before and told me not to show up to the course cause someone else was taking my slot. My platoon leader told me to show up and he would take care of it. He later told me it was the commander that wanted my slot. So, don’t be afraid to fight for your guys. Needless to say, my commander and I didn’t get along, but my platoon leader loved me.

Response by SFC(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 3 at 2020 7:50 AM

SFC(P) Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 03 Sep 2020 07:50:17 -0400

Regulatory guidance on the time remaining in service (TRS) obligation incurred after attending military schools is found in AR 614-200, Chapter 4 (Enlisted Assignments and Utilization Management).

Soldiers who are selected for and attend service schools incur a TRS obligation based on the length of the course. The TRS obligation commences upon completion of the course.

Soldiers with insufficient TRS to meet the prescribed TRS obligation must reenlist or extend before attending training.

The maximum TRS obligation for school attendance is 36 months. TRS requirements for some special training or career development programs may differ from those normally prescribed for military school attendance. Soldiers selected for special training programs must meet the TRS obligation prescribed for the program selected.

Soldiers who met the TRS requirement at the beginning of school attendance do not incur any additional TRS obligations if they are held over or recycled.

The TRS obligation is six months for Soldiers attending NCO Professional Development System courses, regardless of the length of the course, except for attendance at the U.S. Army Sergeants Major Course, which incurs a 24-month TRS obligation.