Can support MOS be Drill Sergeants for OSUT?

2018-05-10T01:32:07-04:00

Heading to Drill Sergeant School in a few months, my ERB says I’m going to Fort Benning after, I’m a 91B can I do BCT there with Armor or Infantry? Wasn’t sure if support MOS can be Drills for OSUT.

Response by SGT David A. 'Cowboy' Groth made May 10 at 2018 5:19 AM

2018-05-10T05:19:41-04:00

Don't see why not.

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made May 10 at 2018 5:55 AM

2018-05-10T05:55:29-04:00

It’s BASIC TRAINING not AIT

Response by 1SG Frank Boynton made May 10 at 2018 8:41 AM

2018-05-10T08:41:21-04:00

Absolutely. As mentioned it is basic training. It is the same regardless of where you go. I was 11B when I did my trail time. I requested Benning, got Dix. Almost all the drills at Dix that I worked with were combat arms MOS’s. It really depends on where they need you.

Response by CSM William Payne made May 10 at 2018 12:32 PM

2018-05-10T12:32:56-04:00

They’re now sending female Drill Sergeants to support OSUT training due to the inclusion of female trainees into combat arms, so I don’t know why not. Not sure if they are receiving additional training to support the Infantry BCT mission or not.

The difference between OSUT and BCT of course being you complete the “AIT” portion of your training immediately following the completion of the basic portion, in the same unit and location. Of course because the combat arms MOS were not previously open to females in the force, not sure how female Drill Sergeants gain the expertise to teach Infantry tactics during that portion of OSUT training, unless it’s by OJT.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made May 10 at 2018 4:22 PM

2018-05-10T16:22:03-04:00

Thanks for the input all!

Response by CW2 Donald Loughrey made May 10 at 2018 8:59 PM

2018-05-10T20:59:30-04:00

Drill Sergeant duty is available to any NCO who passes the Course to be a Drill. It always has been that way. There are great NCO's in ALL MOS' in the Army. Unless things have changed, its always been that way in my experience.

Response by CW2 Private RallyPoint Member made May 10 at 2018 9:56 PM

2018-05-10T21:56:35-04:00

You won't train OSUT, you will go to the 194th AR BDE. They have 2 BCT battalions there, 1-46 and 2-47. I just left the trail from 1-46, great place. Good luck!

Response by CSM Patrick Durr made May 11 at 2018 2:51 AM

2018-05-11T02:51:31-04:00

There is a non OSUT BDE at Fort Benning also.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made May 11 at 2018 11:34 AM

2018-05-11T11:34:43-04:00

Yes. You won’t teach any real MOS specific skills but you can teach basic Army skills

Response by SGM Erik Marquez made May 11 at 2018 12:50 PM

2018-05-11T12:50:18-04:00

Each DS unit has line codes for various MOS's ..Diversity can be a good thing, but not always.
End of the day, while personal experience and MOS qualification can help as a DS greatly.., bottom line is you are not teaching what you know, you are teaching what your told to teach, and it is literally by the numbers. Regardles of MOS, you are exspected to become an SME for the POI you are handed...
If you have not been assigned an 4 as a personal weapon, too bad, best learn.
Last did SD tactics in basic training, to get your learn on.

Response by SFC Dan Sorrow, M.S. made May 12 at 2018 9:38 AM

2018-05-12T09:38:59-04:00

Is it no longer OSUT at Benning?

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made May 13 at 2018 7:48 PM

2018-05-13T19:48:13-04:00

You would be going to one of the Basic Training Units here not OSUT....it would be nice for that change to happen though

Response by SFC Frankey Meals made May 14 at 2018 8:00 PM

2018-05-14T20:00:14-04:00

Yes i was a 91B and 91X as a DS

Response by SSG William Bowen made May 17 at 2018 7:54 AM

2018-05-17T07:54:57-04:00

We had non 11 series Drill Sergeants in OSUT in 1984. Most of ours were 11Bs, but we did have a few non-11s. You don't know it until the day you wear dress greens and you notice some uniform items are missing. I opted to not complain, as one of my DS was finance and probably one of the meanest ones in the whole company.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made May 17 at 2018 8:11 PM

2018-05-17T20:11:56-04:00

Yes

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made May 22 at 2018 4:06 PM

2018-05-22T16:06:06-04:00

Just finished Drill duty here at Benning last month. The only non-infantry/armor/scout Drills that work is the mos specific OSUTs are the new female Drill Sgts. They however, do have to cross train in the MOS they are training in order to be proficient at teaching whichever OSUT they are assigned to. 198th Infantry Bde has all the 11 series OSUTs. 194th Armor Bde has 2 Basic Training Battalions (2/47 and 1/46) and 2 OSUT Battalions. 5/15 is the Cav Scout OSUT Battalion and 1/81 is the Tanker OSUT. 194th is in the process of standing up an additional Cav Scout Battalion. As a 91B, you will more than likely go to either 2/47 or 1/46 infantry Battalions and do BCT only. Both are great Battalions with excellent leadership. Good luck and enjoy Sand Hill!

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 6 at 2019 9:54 AM

2019-03-06T09:54:07-05:00

I went Fort Benning for BCT and I’m neither Infantry nor Armor and all 3 of my Drill Sergeants were support MOSs so I’d think you’d most likely be assigned to a BCT site like 2-47.

Response by CSM Darieus ZaGara made Mar 6 at 2019 4:37 PM

2019-03-06T16:37:29-05:00

No, you will not be involved with OSUT. BT is a lot more fun anyway. Enjoy the tour. Thank you for your service.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 7 at 2019 6:14 AM

2019-03-07T06:14:46-05:00

Yes... I had a wake up call when I was an Instructor at FLW.I was briefing a SFC Drill Sergeant on what we were going o do for the days class and how I needed Soldiers to enter the room and go to tables and not touch anything until directed. As I was doing this I was also taking apart an M9 pistol. The DS stopped me and asked what I had just done. I had to ask her what she meant. She pointed at the Pistol and asked me what I had done to it. Then she said she was a 42A not a 31B. It totally blew my mind that noone had warned me that we had non-MP's as DS.