Posted on Dec 10, 2014
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Can the Army National Guard train a Soldier in Modern Army Combatives?

Is it possible for a Reserve Soldier to take an APFT or a Weapon's Qual with a National Guard unit?

Provided the Reserve unit is paying the Soldier to train, of course.
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SGT (Join to see) I was doing vice versa earlier this year. I split drilled with a Reserve unit as I was awaiting my transfer. Had to complete a DA 1380 for each month. I did an APFT with the Reserve unit, but Weapon's Qual.....it would take more coordination to ensure they have allocated ammo.
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Ok... That makes sense, CPT (Join to see). Seeing that the National Guard has a lot more at their disposal, it would also make sense if Reserve Soldiers can certify in Modern Army Combatives (for example). It would be great actually; i.e. ultimately for the Army. I think there some kind of deal in the making (between The AR and NG). Is that feasible, SGM (Join to see)? So far as CPT (Join to see) pointed out individual Soldiers have to be proactive to "make it happen".
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Total Force Policy directs components to train together as much as possible. All three components train together now. Units have to coordinate unit training but we attend each others schools through the use of ATRRS.
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"Whew!" The title of this post freaked me out a little lol. Thankfully it is not what it appears to be. Sure, as a Reservist I wouldn't have a problem piggybacking with a Guard unit to the range or a combatives course or an APFT. Of course it is about money in the end. I was involved in a mission this summer where the reserve unit tasked by the SDDC active army dropped the ball and my unit was called to help out and pick the ball back up. We had to wait for our ESC to determine "how" they would pay for us to do it all. In the end I did the mission as NCOIC for RMA pay which in the Reserves means a half a days pay for a full days work.
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The short answer is yes, so long as your commander blesses off on an RST or orders. It shouldn't be hard unless the training has significant liability risk, such as airborne training. MAC might qualify in some commander's eyes.

A good policy would be to go armed with a counter-offer to train some of their Soldiers, if their commander is agreeable. This could be mutually beneficial.
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MSG John Wirts
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Any training I am qualified to perform, I should be able to get permission from my unit, and the unit I want to train with and give both units the benefit of shared knowledge. I participated in Joint Forces exercise Exotic Dancer IV during Apr and may 1971 as an active duty augmentee . The Air Force communications and Navy communications were not able to communicate in previous exercises. We were using teletype and teletype relay equipment. That year we found that the two services were using incompatible protocol. The Air Force was using one indicator for space and the other for mark, the Navy was using our space indicator as their mark and vise versa. The joint services exercise and the augmentee program expanded our perception of what was possible. This was an example of thinking outside the box, before the term became popular.
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MSG John Wirts, Exotic Dancer IV?!
There's a name I'll bet isn't in circulation anymore.
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MSG John Wirts
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No the PC Police eliminated that and probably Fluffy Coaches call sign as "offensive" to whom?? Much of my early service time has been censored by the PC Police, we won't even start on JODIES!
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Even better that they had four of them.
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