Posted on May 9, 2020
Can the VA refuse to treat a 100% service-connected veteran citing their case as "too complex," and also refuse to outsource them for care?
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I have a pretty 'complicated' medical case but the VA continues to refuse at times to even consult with me despite internal VA referrals for the consults. They also refuse to refer me to anyone who possibly CAN help-- or the Mission Act options don't have any providers for the care needed within hours of me. Then they refuse to cover many of the meds that outside specialists suggest, costing me >$3,000 per year out-of-pocket. Is this OK at any level and would anyone have any suggestions for how to get the needed care? This way preceeded COVID-19 issues but continues despite it. I've been told the doctors won't even agree to a telehealth or video health consult at the VA across a few departments and programs. I'd already involved a senator's office a few years back and have made almost no progress. Help, please?
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A letter writing campaign to the White House is one thought. Another, if you could get a White House news correspondent to bring up your situation at one of the daily press conferences.
Ms Psaki might be really flummoxed.
Ms Psaki might be really flummoxed.
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You should be in your Congress Persons Office. They have decided you should die.
You need a new Senator
You need a new Senator
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MUCMI’s medically Unexplained Chronic Multi-Symptom Illness: it’s defined in 38 USC 1117 as a diagnosed illness with no known cause(etiology) or (Pathophysiology). Dont let the VA fool you, without a known cause or a known pathophysiology means either one. Also the portion that’s known has to relate to you and not the general population.
Furthermore, it is already clear by your post that you are not being properly treated by the VA. There are some stellar universities that might specialize in specific disorders and open doors to therapeutic alternatives that the VA can’t provide, refuses to provide, or hasn’t hired qualified specialists who can properly provide you with the most current treatment modalities that you might need.
I highly recommend you do a lot of research, or find someone who can help you locate a facility. Don’t limit your treatment to the VA because the VA will always be a desired target of fraud by contractors or fellow employees, and unfortunately the lost funds are deducted from patient care and nothing else.
I wish you the best of luck and a future filled with helpful meaningful treatment and care.
Furthermore, it is already clear by your post that you are not being properly treated by the VA. There are some stellar universities that might specialize in specific disorders and open doors to therapeutic alternatives that the VA can’t provide, refuses to provide, or hasn’t hired qualified specialists who can properly provide you with the most current treatment modalities that you might need.
I highly recommend you do a lot of research, or find someone who can help you locate a facility. Don’t limit your treatment to the VA because the VA will always be a desired target of fraud by contractors or fellow employees, and unfortunately the lost funds are deducted from patient care and nothing else.
I wish you the best of luck and a future filled with helpful meaningful treatment and care.
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The people at the VA are being obtuse. What can they possibly be thinking or not thinking. Your issue requires immediate attention. Maybe the media would like to hear from you. Good luck!
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I have never heard of the VA refusing to treat a 100 percent service connected veteran. I believe your two best options are: give a power of attorney to the DAV to persue your issue and send a letter to the OIG Hotline with the parrticulars asking for a review, cc the letter to the House veterans affairs committee.
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Get with your congressman or congress woman to assist with your case. They will get this resolved. Good luck.
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As an RN, I would recommend you request to be treated through the VA’s community care network. I would never recommend having spine surgey at a VA hospital ( I am an OR nurse). For complex care cases I would highly recommend you get VA Sponsored community care doctor. I have been able to select my own community care doctors since I know the system and it’s worked out. I have also requested meetings with their chief of a medical department at the VA in the past so I could eliminate all the beuacratic BS and let’s them hear from me as a patient not just as a number…
The DAV Can also help in many instances as well. Don’t pay an attorney until you exhausted the VA, legion or other VSO’s
That’s why they are there as our advocate!!
The DAV Can also help in many instances as well. Don’t pay an attorney until you exhausted the VA, legion or other VSO’s
That’s why they are there as our advocate!!
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The VA can make its own rules. I was sent by the VA for a shoulder surgery after slip-and- fall at a B&B whose steps were out of city code. It required 3 surgeries in 18 months, so I effectively had no use of that arm for 18 months. Bathing, dressing, going to the bathroom, tying my shoes and cooking required help, sometimes from perfect strangers. After 2 years, we settled. The attorneys got their 40%, and after the payment for expert witnesses, travel costs and the cost of household help, almost half of my settlement money was gone. To add insult to injury, the VA billed me $70,000. THEY ONLY PAID $7,000 FOR ALL THEY WERE BILLED. So they paid 10% off what they were billed, then billed me 100% off what they were billed. The White House Veterans Hotline passed my concerns on, and I was told that the VA was allowed to do this. I also wrote my congressmen and got the same answers.
I don’t understand how the VA can bill for more than they paid, but apparently they can.
I don’t understand how the VA can bill for more than they paid, but apparently they can.
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I AM deeply sorry to hear about your troubles. I had been dealing myself with the VA. I am also p&t 100 SC.
It is a shame that our representatives "suck" in their jobs!. I have lost dear friends while waiting for help! From
The WH, VA and our elected officials whom they say they care about "the troops", what a bunch on BS. If I was you I would call the TV news and let the people know about the disrespect from the VA, the WH and elected officials!. They are quick for a photo op with serviceman. I met Clinton myself down in Haiti on 2010. He refused to shake hands or talk to the troops. I met Bush, Obama, Trump and they all show disdain for all of us!
My men asked why they behave like that? and I have to lie to then by telling these men that they were to busy with running our country but not busy enough for photo Ops.
I deeply sad about what your going thru, I myself had tried for 7 years (and counting) to be help by the VA. However, do not give up!!!. We are soldiers and when the mountain is too steep, slippery, cold and hot ; we still conquer the summit. Get the news involved in your struggle because theirs no because there is no more "concerning " when the population learns about their immoral and disgraceful towards us and the disservice that they do to us!!!
We all love our country served with honor and pride. When giving a task a mission we took charge head-on and accomplish the mission. No burocratic red tape and no waiting for "cowards" to act!!!.
Keep the fight going. It's not easy and is sad, frustrating, demoralizing but is nothing compared to our resilience and commitments to accomplish the mission.
Get the
It is a shame that our representatives "suck" in their jobs!. I have lost dear friends while waiting for help! From
The WH, VA and our elected officials whom they say they care about "the troops", what a bunch on BS. If I was you I would call the TV news and let the people know about the disrespect from the VA, the WH and elected officials!. They are quick for a photo op with serviceman. I met Clinton myself down in Haiti on 2010. He refused to shake hands or talk to the troops. I met Bush, Obama, Trump and they all show disdain for all of us!
My men asked why they behave like that? and I have to lie to then by telling these men that they were to busy with running our country but not busy enough for photo Ops.
I deeply sad about what your going thru, I myself had tried for 7 years (and counting) to be help by the VA. However, do not give up!!!. We are soldiers and when the mountain is too steep, slippery, cold and hot ; we still conquer the summit. Get the news involved in your struggle because theirs no because there is no more "concerning " when the population learns about their immoral and disgraceful towards us and the disservice that they do to us!!!
We all love our country served with honor and pride. When giving a task a mission we took charge head-on and accomplish the mission. No burocratic red tape and no waiting for "cowards" to act!!!.
Keep the fight going. It's not easy and is sad, frustrating, demoralizing but is nothing compared to our resilience and commitments to accomplish the mission.
Get the
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Lisa, I’m retired civil service and worked for the VA for many years. Seen it all. Best course of action… if you’re having problems getting needed care or referrals, make an appointment with your local Congressional delegate. You’ll probably talk to a staffer at first… that’s ok as they handle most inquiries anyway. Take all relevant medical records with you. Be specific as to what the problem is, how long it’s been going on, who you’ve seen and talked to, etc. The more information you have the better. Explain your frustrations. Once the VA gets the Congressional inquiry letter, they generally move swiftly to clear the matter up as they don’t like them hanging over their heads. They usually have a “suspense” date of 45 days to take some action. Follow up with your Congressional staff to stay on top of it, and also to say Thanks for their help!
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