Can the White House Ban Firearms Discussions on the Internet?

SFC William Farrell — Sat, 13 Jun 2015 00:26:18 -0400

Obama is proposing broad regulations that could very well prohibit and make criminal firearms discussions over the Internet. Do you believe as I do that he is crazy enough to even think that he can get away with this? The article by Gun Owners of America has a letter that you can send to your Senators. I would suggest doing so if you believe in Freedom of Speech and your second amendment rights.

http://www.gunowners.org/alert06122015.htm

Obama’s State Department Could Gag Firearms Communications over the Internet | Current Alerts

A rewrite of the State Department’s arms control regulations could potentially grant the State Department a wide-ranging power to monitor and control gun-related speech on the Internet.

Response by Capt Seid Waddell made Jun 13 at 2015 1:45 AM

Capt Seid Waddell — Sat, 13 Jun 2015 01:45:12 -0400

SFC William Farrell, "Do you believe as I do that he is crazy enough to even think that he can get away with this?"

Yes. His record is clear up to this point.

Response by PO1 John Miller made Jun 13 at 2015 1:52 AM

PO1 John Miller — Sat, 13 Jun 2015 01:52:40 -0400

I doubt this will happen. It's a clear-cut violation of the First Amendment. Just because the anti gun nuts don't like it doesn't make it illegal. They want to force their liberal opinions on us, they have to accept that we too have rights even if they're not in line with their own twisted belief systems.

Response by PO3 Sherry Thornburg made Jun 13 at 2015 4:18 AM

PO3 Sherry Thornburg — Sat, 13 Jun 2015 04:18:12 -0400

Massive overreach.

Response by Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS made Jun 13 at 2015 7:02 AM

Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS — Sat, 13 Jun 2015 07:02:59 -0400

I read an article in regards to this last week.

Basically what it boiled down to was, limiting the ability to "promulgate technical gun data, that was not readily available."

Usually things like Technical Data (Specifications) have to be released via a document of some kind from the manufacturer, either at a tradeshow or through a library. That puts them in the Public Domain, for mass consumption.

The problem is that we don't use tradeshows/libraries as the primary means of distribution anymore. We use the internet.

That basically means that talking about specific data would be prohibited.

Think about it like classified information.

Everything about "Guns" would be "Classified" by default. "If" the manufacturer released it to the Public via an approved source, it becomes "Unclass." If it hasn't been released, the government steps in and says "no, no, you can't do that."

The problem is that, it's unenforceable. The internet is not controlled by the US for starters. The technical data is already out there. The manufacturers already release it via tradeshow & library publications (Library of Congress .pdf).

It's an asinine update that serves no purpose other than attempting bring manufacturing regulations in line with the telecommunication standards.

They can make the change, but it won't functionally do anything. Much like changing speed limit signs don't functionally do anything.

Response by SPC Jan Allbright, M.Sc., R.S. made Jun 13 at 2015 8:42 AM

SPC Jan Allbright, M.Sc., R.S. — Sat, 13 Jun 2015 08:42:09 -0400

First thing I noticed on the GOA site is a plea for $$.
This is how these fringe groups work ... call "fire" and hit you up for $20.
It is interesting that the only places this topic is mentioned is GOA AND RallyPoint.
How about just one more independent reference to confirm something like this?

Response by TSgt Jack Manigold made Jun 13 at 2015 8:51 AM

TSgt Jack Manigold — Sat, 13 Jun 2015 08:51:30 -0400

I think that the administration has nothing else to lose. I am just wondering if it is their goal to see just how much damage can be caused in order to secure votes for the future. After blaming everyone else first.

Response by SGT John Wesley made Jun 13 at 2015 10:17 AM

SGT John Wesley — Sat, 13 Jun 2015 10:17:06 -0400

A scare tactic, then a plea to join their group.... Don't believe half of what you read on the internet and question the other half!

Response by MAJ Matthew Arnold made Jun 29 at 2015 7:48 PM

MAJ Matthew Arnold — Mon, 29 Jun 2015 19:48:36 -0400

I have written to my senators and congresswoman asking to stop and or vote against S.R.J. 19. I hope you will all do the same. It's not just about 2A this time, it's about 1A, a particularly nefarious act. And I didn't think it could get any worse.

Response by SrA Edward Vong made Jun 30 at 2015 9:56 AM

SrA Edward Vong — Tue, 30 Jun 2015 09:56:07 -0400

Can, yes, anything can be done to ban and limit information on the web.

Will, no. Never going to happen.