Can you get promoted to SGT without a valid weapons card?

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 16 Jul 2018 09:49:30 -0400

On my PPW it says MLI-RECOMMENDED E5 and eligible but weapons card is expired.
I submitted my weapons card to s1 a while back but they finally got a chance to update my erb today because everyone was on leave and they were swamped.

Response by SGT David A. 'Cowboy' Groth made Jul 16 at 2018 9:57 AM

SGT David A. 'Cowboy' Groth — Mon, 16 Jul 2018 09:57:44 -0400

Might be possible, but I would check with administration first.

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 16 at 2018 10:11 AM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 16 Jul 2018 10:11:41 -0400

Don’t leave S1 until you get done with wgat you need. your career.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 16 at 2018 10:29 AM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 16 Jul 2018 10:29:46 -0400

I doubt it. When I went to my SSG board (granted that was 2009), my weapons card was expired. I was deployed and started the deployment with a 249 but they made me take a M16 about five months in. Then we moved from north to south - and we didn't have any ranges in that time by the board. Well, S1 just changed the date or something on my 249 card. The CSM saw it and he stopped my board because he was confused why I had a 249 card but a M16 and then said if I could get qualified before the packet was due to brigade, I'd be promotable. If not, I'd come back next month. I went to S3 and the training person found a Reserve Infantry unit going out to a range the next couple days so I went with them, qualified, done.

So you need to just go to S1 and make sure they get it updated or have your NCO go with you or talk to them about getting it updated. If you want to get promoted you have to make sure things get done though. I doubt you still could get promoted with an expired card even now.

Response by SGT Joseph Gunderson made Jul 16 at 2018 12:53 PM

SGT Joseph Gunderson — Mon, 16 Jul 2018 12:53:46 -0400

No.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 16 at 2018 3:35 PM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 16 Jul 2018 15:35:32 -0400

Thank you everyone for the quick responses. I read the regulation and it said if it is expired no points will be awarded for marksmanship. S1 is updating my erb currently, hopefully I make the list for aug!

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 16 at 2018 9:39 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 16 Jul 2018 21:39:08 -0400

Naw man you need that card in there. Let your leadership know your s1 is lazy and is holding up your career.

Response by SSG Eddye Royal made Jul 17 at 2018 10:14 PM

SSG Eddye Royal — Tue, 17 Jul 2018 22:14:47 -0400

SPC Marcin Slomski, sorry this your career, you need to take charge, I was the Training NCO, so I not only would have seen your card was expired, I would have known you were going before the board with your Six, First, CPT.

We would let you know once, but not going to stay one you, because you going to be E-5, if you haven’t been in leadership role already.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 18 at 2018 11:59 AM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 18 Jul 2018 11:59:29 -0400

I had a similar situation with a Soldier before. As long as the new card was dated before the expiration of the old one, the commander can authorize an exception to policy, allowing you to keep your printable standing.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 27 at 2018 8:26 PM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 27 Jul 2018 20:26:50 -0400

Update I made the list with a weapons card that was updated the 16th

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 7 at 2018 3:36 PM

1SG Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 07 Oct 2018 15:36:25 -0400

Yes you can. I was promoted to SGT without one. During the surge in Iraq, there was a temporary ammo shortage. My CO provided a memo to the board stating that "no fault of the Soldier..."

But, that was an extraordinary circumstance.

Response by SCPO Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 20 at 2018 12:30 PM

SCPO Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 20 Oct 2018 12:30:53 -0400