Posted on Dec 4, 2021
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If an NCO has qualified NCOERs can they still make the OML under the new promotion system?
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SFC Retention Operations Nco
Everyone gets an OML regardless of their rating
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So I am going to guess you don’t have school yet and completed your online ncoes course correct?
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SSG Zachary Kelly from my understanding of what have read and learned
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SSG Zachary Kelly SSG (Join to see) if you have “did not meet standards” or failed last APFT or ht/wt are the things that will put you in that NFQ realm. You will make the OML unless there is something that basically highlights a need to look at you for eventual separation. A “Qualified” rating just won’t help you get a very high number.

I get the anxiety around this matter, but seek out one of your senior NCOs or tap in with a town hall held by Army G1. They answer a lot of these questions. If you have twitter, “Morgan at J-1” is super helpful and posts a lot of information. Even responds to DM. But I assure you, you’ll get the same info I’m telling you now (because I asked). The OML isn’t as big of a change as it sounds. Just do your research and you’ll see that you’re fine unless you violated policy or regulation. Even then, the leash is pretty long.

In the future, request your counselings and follow up with discrepancies prior to having to sign. NCOER ratings should not be a surprise. They are 99% of the time, but as you progress in rank, hopefully you’ll use this experience as a lesson on how important your job of counseling as a leader is.
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SFC (Verify To See) if I never received an initial counseling and quarterly counselings is it possible to rebuttal my NCOER?
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SSG Zachary Kelly yes but the fact you don’t have counselings isn’t really something that’s in your favor. The evaluation process is intended to be collaborative with mutual investment. If the process failed, it isn’t on the rater and/or senior rater, solely. You’re culpable as well. As I mentioned in another post of yours, engage in the conversation with your raters. Seek understanding. Sign the NCOER and apply the feedback to improve. But also- learn the NCOER process and ensure you are doing everything you can to protect your evaluation on the front end. Trying to do it on the back end (where you’re at now) paints a worse picture of you than you probably realize. Again- I just had a conversation of this nature with a few CSM. The best thing to do is recognize that there is something to be learned if you’re willing to understand how you got here.

Best of luck!

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