Posted on Jun 18, 2018
Lt Col Charlie Brown
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The reason behind the post is that I was asked for my point of view on that topic in a discussion group. My view is that while all of those things initially make people victims, we can and do grow into survivors and then if we choose to help and mentor others into the wise ones who are sought for their advice. How do or why would we do that? We do it to "Make Meaning" of our experiences.
So simply expressed: Victim to Survivor to Wise One
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Lt Col Scott Shuttleworth
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Simple answer yes. I beleive you can let things that have happened to you own you or you can own them. The way you own them is you take control and use it to talk to others and help them pass it forward. This is very simple thought but difficult in action but yes you can let it give you strength and help you grow.
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PFC Flor Gomez
PFC Flor Gomez
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SFC Ralph E Kelley - I dont agree it's that simple. "Let things happen" I am not claiming to anything AKA "owning" So there in itself lies the whole issue. And I dont know about strength or grow. I know for sure it changes you and you cant go back and lets not talk about moving forward. Everything in this statement just tugs me the wrong way. And I will leave it at that.
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Lt Col Scott Shuttleworth
Lt Col Scott Shuttleworth
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PFC Flor Gomez - Don't mean any disrespect with my comments...just conversation among veterans. I am sorry you feel that way and I hope you can find a way to move forward and not live in the past. You are correct...it isn't that simple...it is something you have to consciously work on.

What I mean by let things happen is that bad things will happen and how you react to them is up to you. You can either take control of them by "owning" or recognizing the situation, learn from it and how to live with it, and making some good out of it or you can let it own you and live woe is me life and let it eat away at you for the rest of your life...which can make you physically ill. I had numerous things (too many to list here) that have happened to me in my life to include actions on deployments...I could have either relived those scenarios or learn from them and help others which helps me get better and move forward. Doesn't mean they have gone away...they haven't...they come around every once and a while with certain triggers that Ihave been able to recognize but by taking control I am able to deal with it...and if I am in control of it versus it controlling me I won't let it drag me down. You also have to find someone that can help you thorugh the situations. For me it is my wife...I am and always have been very open to her about what happened in my life and she understands and know my triggers and we recognize it and work through it together.

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MAJ James Woods
SGT David A. 'Cowboy' Groth
COL Mikel J. Burroughs
SFC Joe S. Davis Jr., MSM, DSL
SSG James J. Palmer IV aka "JP4"
LTC Stephen C.
CPL Dave Hoover
SFC Shirley Whitfield
SMSgt Minister Gerald A. "Doc" Thomas
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Lt Col Charlie Brown
Lt Col Charlie Brown
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PFC Flor Gomez I certainly would not choose to have gone through what I did if there was a way to undo it. Not having that option I choose to move forward as best I can using the experience to help other people. That is my choice given the situation I find myself in. Obviously this doesn't apply to everyone
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SSG John Eroh
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Lt Col Scott Shuttleworth - You are correct. By owning it, working through it especially with your spouse and recognizing the triggers so that you aren't caught off guard and can handle it, you grow stronger. The next time something happens you can handle it better. You help others by helping them through it. It does take time.

Several years back I dealt with severe depression with issues that I didn't realize I had left over from as far back as Vietnam. With the help of my wife, the VA, an excellent book on depression and my faith in God, I no longer am bothered with depression. The VA taught me how to recognize the start of the downward spiral and how to avoid it. Whenever I can I spread the word about it and am willing to share with and help others with it. which in the long run also helps me. We had a pastor who's son became a paraplegic in an accident. At the hospital they were helping others deal with similiar and they found that it also helped them.
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CPL Dave Hoover
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Absolutely, I have seen it more times than not. I believe the most dangerous aspect of PTSD and TBI is not recognizing it.
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Lt Col Charlie Brown
Lt Col Charlie Brown
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Good point. You have to acknowledge an issue to be able to deal with it.
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Lt Col Charlie Brown
Lt Col Charlie Brown
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A1C Doug Towsley - I do not disagree. We should not have to diagnose ourselves for physical or other issues. The medical community is not doing well at this, imho. Acknowledging the problem means getting treated, not just running around wailing about the pain. I've seen that too.
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MSG Loren Tomblin
MSG Loren Tomblin
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Very few people know of my combat experience. I once tried to sit in with a group at the VA. All they wanted talk about was cash bennies. I walked out and never went back. My experiences are mine even though I avoid places that may make me jumpy. I have learned to acclimate myself to any environment I am in and some people may think I am a creature of habit by where I position myself. Everyone's experience is not the same. Tabula rasa has a lot to do with how you interact with others and their attitudes.
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CPL Dave Hoover
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MSG Loren Tomblin I appreciate your response brother.
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SGT Jim Arnold
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I might be an example. lost the use of my right arm and my right leg. I could of just sat here and allowed myself just to quit living and succumb to rot. I like to think that I'm retaking control of my life by doing things that are difficult. Sometimes I have to think outside the box to accomplish my goal. So far the only true trouble I have yet to overcome is doors that open to my right but I'm still working on it.
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Lt Col Charlie Brown
Lt Col Charlie Brown
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Thank you for being an inspiration
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MAJ Ken Landgren
MAJ Ken Landgren
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I hope your life is consists of sunshine and smooth sailing.
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SGT Jim Arnold
SGT Jim Arnold
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MAJ Ken Landgren - nope, but challenges and goals to over come those challenges. makes for living
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MAJ Ken Landgren
MAJ Ken Landgren
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SGT Jim Arnold That’s the warrior spirit!
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