Posted on Sep 26, 2015
Can you wear your Marine unit patch as an Army combat patch if you deployed with the Marines? Policy appears to say no.
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Are there any other former Marines turned Army who don't agree with this ? (Have to look like a boot LT until I deploy with the Army)
Posted 10 y ago
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A Milper was published several years ago addressing this. The Marine patches aren't authorized regardless of what memos units may have handed out. You are only authorized to wear the patch for the parent unit you were assigned to for that deployment. For example, I deployed with 3d ID and worked in both Marine and 1st AD AOs. I am only authorized the 3d ID patch for that deployment. Leaders need to know and enforce these changes and it does not happen all too often.
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Army Soldiers were pimped out to support USMC operations for years. In some instances these Soldiers were treated better by the USMC than by their own branch.
They fought and bled together. They learned a new way of conducting operations aside from the Army's "check the block/ PT belt in a war zone" standard. While the Marines are focused with fighting a war with antiquated equipment, the Army is concerning itself with which color pattern uniform is cooler. Let these Soldiers stand out as an asset and wealth of experience not as something for a regular nazi to complain about. If it wasn't for my deployments with the USMC I wouldn't have learned solutions like using a 5 ton tire as a substitute for a Buffalo (RCP vehicle not trailer) tire when we didn't have the "one of a kind" type. I'd still be waiting on the supply system 7 years later
They fought and bled together. They learned a new way of conducting operations aside from the Army's "check the block/ PT belt in a war zone" standard. While the Marines are focused with fighting a war with antiquated equipment, the Army is concerning itself with which color pattern uniform is cooler. Let these Soldiers stand out as an asset and wealth of experience not as something for a regular nazi to complain about. If it wasn't for my deployments with the USMC I wouldn't have learned solutions like using a 5 ton tire as a substitute for a Buffalo (RCP vehicle not trailer) tire when we didn't have the "one of a kind" type. I'd still be waiting on the supply system 7 years later
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If you are attached and they are the MAJCOM, then yeah, you get to wear their patch.
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Can someone explain to me why deployment patches are such a big deal? The Air Force doesn't have them and I can guarantee you that pilots deploy a LOT. I've seen some that have deployed so many times they no longer have to get the anthrax shots because they've finished the series.
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Well I know here at Fort Hood Air Force Weather and TACPs help support Corp, Division and CAV. Wore the patches while they were stationed here. I was here to support my Air Force comrades and chose not to.
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As long as I can remember, marines do not wear patches on any of their uniforms.
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Originally AR 670-1 verbiage was vague and by its vagueness, didn't say you couldn't. Then when those retarded tattoo policies were put out the language clearly said you couldn't. When they removed the ridiculous tattoo policy they went back to the vague language in FWTS patches that would allow for its wear under these circumstances. Because of the vague wording it more or less falls on commander discretion and the unit. I haven't had any issues with the two commands I've been with recently.
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I was wondering the same thing. I know air force allows prior army grunts with CIB/EIB to wear it, I think the Navy does too, but I wonder about our crayon eating cousins
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I think the only Units Authorized to wear a Marine Patch is our Navy Corpsman.
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I have remained silent on the issue of the ssi, combat patch, because I wasn't able to deploy after 911 because of civilian law enforcement job due to army national guard made it a priority for those who are in law enforcement be teamed up the Air Force Security Forces to handle the airport security to which I was responsible for the training and operational aspect throughout the state. I did this for my whole recall which this operation was known as operation noble eagle. Because of my background is preventing me from deploying but felt I was instrumental in keeping this country safe for duration of active duty. Then in 06, as DS, with 95th Timberwolves we were preparing for mobilization to Afghanistan to which you became political our orders were to send it another company was said in their place. For a second time not having the ability to deployed. As a result of these two incidents, I have been able to promote because I lack deployment and other people within my unit downgrade my mobilization to operation Noble eagle. Before units were being sent overseas I was already mobilized to serve in this capacity and the state federal government felt it was necessary 4 me and among others to perform this function. As a result I don't have the ability to wear combat patch because of my mobilization within the United States. I feel that I pay for myself in a honorable and sacrifice myself on the streets of California for many years before my retirement as a law enforcement officer and yet I am not consider member of the combat soliders in my unit. So if Marines wear their patch then I should have the ability to wear mine but I can't
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Read ALARACT 005/2007 for guidance on SSI-FWTS.
You're only authorized to wear another units patch of you have written approval from the DCS, Army G1 or a delighted representative.
If you don't you are only authorized your unit's patch.
You're only authorized to wear another units patch of you have written approval from the DCS, Army G1 or a delighted representative.
If you don't you are only authorized your unit's patch.
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Read ALARACT 005/2007 for guidance on SSI-FWTS.
You're only authorized to wear another units patch of you have written approval from the DCS, Army G1 or a delighted representative.
If you don't you are only authorized your unit's patch.
You're only authorized to wear another units patch of you have written approval from the DCS, Army G1 or a delighted representative.
If you don't you are only authorized your unit's patch.
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The only things that any professional warrior should wear is rank, name and branch of service. Problem solved, problem staying solved.
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The Army has done this in numerous wars and conflicts. In WW1 the Germans were so scared of Marines they gave them the name Teufel Hund, "Devil Dog" due to their ferocious fighting. The Army would wear their legging and try to make their uniforms look more like Marines to scare the enemy. Semper Fi!
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Then Why have the Clothing Sales Stores carried Marine patches in subdued variations? I was under the impression that if a Marine served in combat with one of our divisions, and then cross-decked to the Army, His combat service would be recognized by being permitted to wear a combat patch of that Marine Division. I could be mistaken, as I know little of Army regs, but I've seen a good many Dogfaces sporting my 1st MarDiv patch on their right shoulder. And as a Marine I find it hillariously ironic that Marines are not allowed ANY unit patches on our uniforms, but if we served in combat and then join the Army, then and only then we could sport our patches. I'm disability retired, and I found a cotton Sateen shirt at a gun show for $10. Had it embroidered w/ the EGA and USMC on the L pocket, and WOODS, T.W.F. across the shoulders. On the L shoulder is the scarlet cocked square with a gold 4 of the 4th Marine division, who I was with when I retired. On the R shoulder is the blue diamond containing the 5 stars of th Southern Cross, and within them is a red 1, embazoned with the white letters GUADALCANAL vertically, of the legendary 1st Marine Division, with whom I served in harm's way. Sometimes I run across an old Soldier who says "I didn't know Marines had Division patches". I say We do, but haven't worn them on our uniforms since shortly after WWII.
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I cannot say regarding present criteria. I do know that, back in the 40's and 50's, Army personnel can and did wear Marine unit patches if they had served in those units during wartime. My father had served in the Navy as a forward observer for naval guns. He landed with the second wave of Marines on Saipan and Tinian, and directly supported the 2nd and 6th Marine Regiments, 2nd Marine Division. They wore divisional patches on their green and khaki class A uniforms at that time, and, after leaving the Navy (which NEVER authorized shoulder insignia) on receiving a Regular Army Commission in 1949, he was authorized to wear the 2nd MARDIV patch. As it happens, his unit, 27th Inf Rgt, 25th Inf Div, went into Korea less than a year later, and he wore the Tropic Lightning ever after. We discussed this a couple of times as I was growing up, and he commented that he could wear not only the 2nd MARDIV patch, but also the Fleet Marine Force Pacific (FMFPAC) patch, which was a rarity. IMHO, whatever unit has the most meaning to the individual, and which he has earned while being shot at, should be authorized. I'm glad I don't have to read/interpret today's regs/policies.
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I deployed for 15 months to ramadi, we 3ID 1st BDE were attached to the marines 1st MEF I believe. We received orders for their patch. I personally don't wear it because to cheap to buy it lol
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I have to say I don't know the regulations on this, but I earned Naval Jump wings (5 jumps from USN/USMC aircraft). The rule is you can wear one set of US Jumpwings but not both. As a Master Parachutist (3 years Jump status, JM qualified and 65 jumps) I never considered wearing the USN wings (10 Jumps total with 5 from USN/USMC Acft)
I day all that to say, that I would think that if you served in combat with another service and met the requirements you should be able to wear that patch. It's not about Army or USMC patch, it's the folks you served with in combat and a if that happens to be Marines then you should be able to proudly were that patch.
I day all that to say, that I would think that if you served in combat with another service and met the requirements you should be able to wear that patch. It's not about Army or USMC patch, it's the folks you served with in combat and a if that happens to be Marines then you should be able to proudly were that patch.
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The last time i checked the regs was 12 years ago and also with my Sgt. Major. Former Marines can wear Combat patches from the Marine Corps. Providing you served in a combat theater. Lets say you served in Desert Storm/Shield with the 1st Marine Division, 2nd Battalion 6th Marines. There is no regulation in writing that states you can not wear a 1st Mar Div patch or 2d Bn 6th Mar patch if there is such.......You have to asked your Sgt. Major?..... I ran into a army sgt. marjor who told his former marines fuck no......If you served in the Army during OIF's in area of operation by 1st Mar Div - i saw army units with 1st Mar Div combat patches. I ask what was going on? i was told it's a mar div area. the unit authorize them to wear marine division combat patch. My Sgt. Major told me either wear the CAR ribbon or a combat patch. can't have both.
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I wear 1st Marine Div. Not because I used to be in the Corps, but because, as a soldier, our unit was with 1st Mar Div in Iraq
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