Certifying Crews for CRG Gunnery

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 06 May 2014 06:54:58 -0400

Does certifying a crew for CRG gunnery only to make the crew green in the eyes of the battery make any sense? The crew will still be red in the Battalions eyes due to NMC equipment. Any comments? I have 3 weeks, well 2 since there is no training during Army week, to train 2 brand new guys and 1 semi-new guy just given to me by my command.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made May 6 at 2014 7:39 AM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 06 May 2014 07:39:27 -0400

Response by SFC William Swartz Jr made May 6 at 2014 7:56 AM

SFC William Swartz Jr — Tue, 06 May 2014 07:56:47 -0400

I ran into the same issues at times throughout my career as a Tanker, training up a crew for gunnery, qualifying our tank during the gunnery to become a qualified crew, then shortly after that I lose my gunner due to a PCS, ETS or an SD tasking and I am right back where I was prior to the gunnery. But hey for that brief shining moment my tank was Green on the board at the BN and BDE S-3s. Unfortunately it is a necessary pain in the ass that one must deal with when you are part of a combat vehicle that requires a qualified crew to be trained.

Response by CW2 Private RallyPoint Member made May 6 at 2014 8:42 AM

CW2 Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 06 May 2014 08:42:27 -0400

For certification purposes, you must certify the crew! Yes, it would be best (and should be done) with your own SERVICEABLE equipment, but at least get the crew certified. Then once the CRG is fixed, you will be good across the board!

Response by SSG Zachery Mitchell made May 6 at 2014 8:18 PM

SSG Zachery Mitchell — Tue, 06 May 2014 20:18:07 -0400

I know some very capable NCO's and Soldiers who would be willing to work on CRG's...We're here to support HHB just as well as the line units with their Radars...If they're broke get with your systems guys have them job them out to my shop. We'd be more than happy to come look at them.

Response by SSG William Sutter made May 7 at 2014 2:23 AM

SSG William Sutter — Wed, 07 May 2014 02:23:21 -0400

If you are talking Table 8 crew drills on CRG crews- technically if the equipment is deadlined then yes they are still red. HOWEVER, I have seen all of everything go out the window in Patriot ADA. That is the worst assignment I have ever had in all of my 20 years.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made May 7 at 2014 12:43 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 07 May 2014 12:43:59 -0400

I spent 4.5yrs with 5-52 ADA as their S6 NCOIC. I understand the short notices from higher to get your CRG teams green. The biggest thing to understand in my eyes and experience with patriot is that if your CRG crews are red you deadline the BN as a whole. We're all a piece of the bigger pie and you running the CRG section have one of the bigger pieces because if the batteries can't communicate with the ICC they can't do their job effectively. Run with what you got and motivate your Soldiers to do their absolute best because in the end those batteries NEED you to help them to keep the skies clear. You convey that to your Soldiers to emphasize the importance of their jobs and you'll be surprised with the results. Hopefully that was helpful in some way.

Response by SFC Israel Wells made Dec 4 at 2016 2:23 PM

SFC Israel Wells — Sun, 04 Dec 2016 14:23:29 -0500

I did it for 3 yes there. Same thing. Army week problem and all. It is simple. Shut up SSG. Get your soldiers trained. Keep your comments away from your soldiers, get the damn slides green and move out. Your job is not to re-invent this MOS. OKINAWA is unique, I'll give you that but don't baby these soldiers. 2 days and they should certify. They are U.S. Soldiers. Best of the best remember that ND get to work. Aloha