Changes to BLC for SM with a permanent, no push-up profile?

CPL(P) Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 15 Mar 2019 14:33:42 -0400

I was supposed to attend BLC on March 19th but was told at a briefing two days ago that there are changes this cycle, from TRADOC I believe, for people on permanent profiles for no push-ups and/or sit-ups (I have one for no push-ups only.) I was told by the cadre at the Fort Bragg NCO Academy that this information could be found on their ACT page however I have had no such luck finding it. I'm still kicking myself for not asking them to provide their source up front.

I was wondering if anyone else has heard of this new change and could point me in the right direction or could provide me with this document. I am not calling their integrity into question. I would like to see this change for my own peace of mind.

EDIT: I should mention that this "change" states that SM with a no push-up and/or sit-up profile cannot attend BLC due to there being no alternate event on the APFT. No running profiles remain unchanged.

Response by SGT Jim Ramge, MBA made Mar 15 at 2019 2:55 PM

SGT Jim Ramge, MBA — Fri, 15 Mar 2019 14:55:02 -0400

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Response by SGM Billy Herrington made Mar 15 at 2019 6:40 PM

SGM Billy Herrington — Fri, 15 Mar 2019 18:40:22 -0400

I just talked to the deputy commandant where I am. He said a new CMP is coming out, but he hasn’t seen anything yet regarding what your asking. If I get any more info I’ll let you know.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 17 at 2019 1:21 AM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 17 Mar 2019 01:21:31 -0400

The new CMP should be on the ACT page, and my recommendation would be to read that. It will answer any questions you may have. If not, then I would also recommend going to the school house and asking them. A lot of Soldiers are afraid to ask questions, but the instructors and staff at the academy are literally there for you. The staff duty is an instructor as well, and should be able to find an answer for you.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 17 at 2019 2:25 AM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 17 Mar 2019 02:25:41 -0400

That's just not possible. If TRADOC, or even a local BLC, created a policy that stated you couldn't attend with a permanent profile for pushups or sit-ups, they would essentially be saying that no one with a permanent pushup or situp profile can get promoted. Since they can't get promoted, they reach RCP Nad separate.
TRADOC doesn't have the power to create policies to separate Soldiers. A subcommand cannot create policies that the entire department of the Army has to follow, and they can't create policies that will kick out entire populations of the Army.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 17 at 2019 11:12 AM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 17 Mar 2019 11:12:57 -0400

I currently teach BLC and no, this is not a thing. I will say that the new CMP no longer allows PT, Ht/Wt, or eval failures to get the same treatment as soldiers who pass everything. Any failure during BLC now constitutes a Marginal 1059.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 18 at 2019 12:32 AM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 18 Mar 2019 00:32:03 -0400

I am keenly interested in this as well, as my PLT is full of CPL(P)'s waiting their turn.

Response by CPL Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 2 at 2019 10:09 PM

CPL Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 02 Oct 2019 22:09:53 -0400

I was able to enroll recently in BLC and have a permanent profile for push ups, so I don’t take the push up event on the pt test. However I had to get push ups at own pace put on my profile so I could lead pt for those drills and get all the modified versions of prep drills, etc... taken off. I also had to get a memo stating I could do the climbing drills, mountain climber etc... It was tough for me but not impossible. However they might give you less of a hard time, they just stated that I had to be able to lead the formation like everyone else and if I didn’t have that stuff put on or off my profile then I wouldn’t be doing it to standard and therefore couldn’t attend. Hope this helps man