Posted on Jan 21, 2021
CPT Gurinder (Gene) Rana
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China is a bully and looks to make the world subservient to it, yet this cannot be farther than reality. Negotiations are not yielding any positive results and China is only tiring India in political bluffs.
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1SG Steven Imerman
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China has been expansionist since the PRC's establishment in 1949. Now that "China Joe" is president, however, don't look for help from the US.
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SPC Erich Guenther
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Agree with CPT, has nothing to do with who is POTUS. India's problem is past treaties on Kashmir which limits it's military response to not much. It's arms in the Kashmir are limited by treaty and I think so is the number of overall troops. China knows it and is taking advantage.
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1SG Steven Imerman
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China's official Xinhau News yesterday cheered Trump leaving the White House and lauded Biden. Trump's nickname could be "Hammer of the Chinese," Biden will probably negotiate like the Obama administration did with Iran, giving away the farm for vague promises. If I were India, I would look to my priming and keep my powder dry. China WILL take advantage.
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SPC Erich Guenther
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1SG Steven Imerman - Seriously we only really have 2 years max of Biden. Pretty sure they will flip the House or both House and Senate back to Republican control.
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CPT Lawrence Cable
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Nuking Islamabad might get their attention and potentially solve a different problem too. That's not socially acceptable, but I grew up around the Air Force and Curtis Lemay.
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CPT Gurinder (Gene) Rana
CPT Gurinder (Gene) Rana
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Very interesting psychology, Lawrence.
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CPT Lawrence Cable
CPT Lawrence Cable
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CPT Gurinder (Gene) Rana Hey, being batshit crazy has worked for North Korea for the last half century +.
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CPT Lawrence Cable
CPT Lawrence Cable
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CPT Gurinder (Gene) Rana - Some quotes from Lemay. "Actually, I think it's more immoral to use less force than necessary, than it is to use more. if you use less force, you kill off more of humanity in the long run, because you are merely protracting the struggle." "Apply whatever force it is necessary to employ, to stop things quickly. The main thing is stop it. The quicker you stop it, the more lives you save." “We should always avoid armed conflict. But if you get in it, get in with both feet and get out as soon as possible.”
I have always been of the opinion that if it is in the national interest to engage in an armed conflict, it ought to be worth stomping everything that opposes you flat. Instead we are saddled with politicians that think you can fight wars without killing or offending anyone. That hasn't worked out very well.
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CPT Gurinder (Gene) Rana
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CPT Lawrence Cable, politically, if the problem ensues and China is kept on it's edge of the LAC through winter, public sentiments for the Narender Modi government will rise steeply. Territory must not be lost to China in the process of playing politics.
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Maj Kevin "Mac" McLaughlin
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What do you think they should do?
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CPT Gurinder (Gene) Rana
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Maj Kevin "Mac" McLaughlin, thanks for asking. I would deploy the SFF (Special Frontier Force) behind enemy lines to gather information and with intelligence neutralize the enemy.
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Maj Kevin "Mac" McLaughlin
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Are they not already doing that? I seem to recall reports of incursions where the Chinese have managed to kill 20 Indians. This issue has been going on for decades, and the Chinese have already defeated the Indians pretty badly back in the 60s. Seems to me that deploying special ops forces could potentially escalate tensions if discovered. Is that de-escalating a pressure cooker?
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CPT Gurinder (Gene) Rana
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Maj Kevin "Mac" McLaughlin, the SFF, in 1962, pushed back the PLA to the LAC from the Shyok. The SFF were responsible for India defeating Pakistan during the Kargil War. Knowing that India occupies the high ground in Galwan Valley, Pangong Tso and DBO brings China to the negotiating table to try and de-escalate tensions in these hotspots and the Hot Springs area. The incident in which 20 Indian troops were killed, including the Commander, was in Galwan Valley. The PLA troops took matters into their own hands during a patrol by Indian Army soldiers. The PLA lost an equal number of troops or more during the incident. To avoid another such incident, both sides agreed to negotiate measures to de-escalate tensions along the LAC. Nine such meetings have taken place thus far since the incident in Galwan Valley without resolve, because China renegs on mutually agreed de-escalation actions on its it's part.
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