Clothing records and issues

SPC Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 23 Jun 2015 15:52:19 -0400

Ok this may seem stupid and lackluster but I'm bringing it here I just got to stewart from fort drum well I understand regulations that the cg out out during a ocie layout everything on the clothing record can be requested to be shown. No issues but when you have everything on the list. Why is it we can't get things removed like the uniforms and the underwear and other things that they wouldn't take back anyway since it touched your skin. And I talked with cif about issues regarding gear I was issues cold and wet weather bottoms of a medium but record showed large the nsns being different my team chief kept arguing the pants which I showed both were correct just a different size I was told I would be charged if I didn't correct it so I had to go to cif and get it cchanged. Its been like that since I got it cif told me they honestly don't care about size or nsn as long as when I go to turn stuff in I have it I explained to the team cheif (another spc out of respect I won't post opinions about that) that cif said that and she said whatever if it's not changed your getting charged I showed the change and was done. But my question for everyone if you have gear but on record it's wrong size but you can show physically that it's right there should you be forced to go and change clothing record just to appease that the nsn matches to the size you have when all the gear costs the same for them to get made and is there a way to get consumable items (uniforms boots socks) removed from record since they in no way last like body armour helmet and the like.

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 23 at 2015 4:05 PM

MSG Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 23 Jun 2015 16:05:53 -0400

Always the great war with CIF. Ever going. Never ending. And usually a fruitless outcome for those not allied with CIF.

Response by SPC Ryan D. made Jun 23 at 2015 4:39 PM

SPC Ryan D. — Tue, 23 Jun 2015 16:39:58 -0400

I found it completely depended on which post I was at, and who I talked with at CIF.

I turned in many items before PCS'ing and luckily was able to get an updated copy of my record before leaving. When I got to my final duty station, I found out they hadn't actually updated my records as they stated since basic training.

I made nice with the lady who ran the CIF office and provided her with my own copies of the record amendments, and she took all of it off with a smile. She even update the incorrect quantities and sizes along with removing the perishable items, such as uniforms, socks, etc.

Response by CW5 Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 23 at 2015 8:49 PM

CW5 Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 23 Jun 2015 20:49:19 -0400

This has been going on for so long that it would take an eternity to go back and correct everyone's records now. The only hope is to get started with the new batch of Joes/Janes in-processing. But I will say that over the last 20 years the CIFs have gotten better.

Go fill out a complaint at the ICE counter with the suggestion that they start correcting these either at in- or out-processing.

Response by CSM Charles Hayden made Aug 31 at 2019 10:53 PM

CSM Charles Hayden — Sat, 31 Aug 2019 22:53:39 -0400

SPC Private RallyPoint Member Your story reminds me of my BCT. We were issued TA-50 gear to use in a field problem.

While returning the gear, Some A-hole, quasi-cadre, E-3 wanted me to sign a statement of charges for having caused the canteen cover to become unserviceable -in 3 days!

I was not about to accept that statement of charges and did not sign. Long memories exist!

Response by LTC Jason Mackay made Aug 31 at 2019 10:57 PM

LTC Jason Mackay — Sat, 31 Aug 2019 22:57:44 -0400

They leave the no takezes-backzees on there to prove you got them so they don’t re-issue them

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 31 at 2019 11:01 PM

1SG Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 31 Aug 2019 23:01:53 -0400

If CIF wanted to be assholes, which they tend to be, they could enforce what your record says and not take equipment that is the wrong size per your clothing record.
Your TL is trying to protect you from future problems that could cause a headache when you least want it, like trying to clear post.
Next time you go through CIF thoroughly valid what you are signing for is what you were issued and this won't be a problem later.

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