Posted on Jan 18, 2014
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<p>I think we can all agree that having a college degree is pretty important in this day age, whether you stay in or not. Is anyone else running into the issue of units preaching the importance of college and taking college but gives no time for it? I know I had Soldiers that want to take courses but don't want to do the online option because they learn and retain better in a classroom environment. I think getting an online degree is the only real feasible way to complete college and I try to preach it to my Soldiers. I myself take online courses and have a hard time keeping up with stuff I have to do at work and the stuff I have to do when I get home with the family. Does anyone have any suggestions as to what can be done to help Soldiers get time to do college?</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>(For my command that might read this, this is just a broad question. I have encountered it before and hear Soldiers talk about it all the time.)</p>
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LT, you're not the only education Nazi. Aside from preaching financial security that is the one thing I preach often, if not overdoing it. It feels great counseling my Soldiers on the benefits of education but also showing them that I'm practicing what I preach. We all know it's easy to tell a Soldier do this, that and the third without questioning but not many Leaders tells their subordinates AND show them.

Remember, ACTIONS SPEAK LOUDER THAN WORDS!!!!!
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Ohh Sergeant, don't even get me started on LT Hooser's financial lectures. I got soldiers going to Mental Health complaining that Dave Ramsey is talking to them in their sleep, and they don't know who Dave Ramsey is.
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CMC Robert Young
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What you do will be remembered long after what you said is forgotten.
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Attending college is a give and take. One must realize that they are active duty and the job comes first. If they can find a way to work some classes into their off time I am all for it. I even let some Soldiers leave at 1500 so they can take class from 1600-2000. Not a problem. The issue is when a Soldier signs up for college then expects the Command to give them all of the time off to attend the class. A lot of planning must going into taking college classes. As a 1SG I do not have the time to attend a brick and mortar environment. I can effectively plan a class around my schedule that I do on my own time online.
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1SG, I understand the mission comes first, but why is it the Army will offer to send an Officer back to school for 2 years to complete a Master's Degree, but doesn't afford the enlisted member the same opportunity to self-improve? Is there a program like that for Enlisted members that I don't know about?
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LTC Jason Bartlett
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Not all officers are given that opportunity (only a few,someone else can fill you in on the 5 W's), you have the same opportunity as I (officer). I didn't do degree completion either I sacrificed and did it on my time along with my advance degree. If you want something bad enough you work hard and it will happen. 
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CSM Mike Maynard
CSM Mike Maynard
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SSG Whittington - YES, there are programs exactly like that for enlisted.

It's hard to replicate with enlisted though, as all officers have a bachelors, but not all enlisted even have a bachelor. So, the pool is limited usually to Senior NCOs that have a Bachelors.

And usually these fellowships require a follow-on internship and then a special duty utilizing the education that you just received.
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CPT Laurie H.
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Yes, and I practice what I preach - currently working on my MBA. I have big plans for what comes after that too, many thanks to a senior LT of mine who has gone out of his way to encourage me.
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CPT Laurie H.
CPT Laurie H.
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I do! Emergency management and resource allocation.
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MG Peter Bosse
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Glad to see you pursuing a Masters degree early in your career...very smart!
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CPT Human Resources Officer
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Emergency Management and Resource Allocation. Well now i know who to include in my Zombie Apocalypse readiness meetings.

What classes are you working on now?
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CPT Laurie H.
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I have a well-thumbed copy of this in my desk drawer. I'll bring it.

http://www.ugcsurvival.com/SurvivalManuals%5CFM%20999-3.pdf
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