Posted on May 14, 2015
SPC Jan Allbright, M.Sc., R.S.
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I was looking at both the Army and Marine method of combat pistol. To be quite frank I think the Marines have a better handle on this. What so you think?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sU17hG4zZvw
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MSG Brad Sand
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As soon as you said 'Combat Pistol' everything that followed seemed a bit foggy. If you are in combat and going to your pistol...well I am praying for you already.
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1SG Patrick Sims
1SG Patrick Sims
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SPC CUMMINGS---True most of us are a bit long in the tooth---and are using our Vietnam experience as a measuring stick as to the reliability of modern sidearm. However, I would like to point out a 9MM fully jacketed round does not have very much stopping power. It was chosen more for the fact it is a NATO standard round. When I shot someone with a 45, or in my case I carry a 357 Magnum---their were knocked off of their feet---it gives me more knock down power than a 9mm pop gun.
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CPO Jeffrey Bohemier
CPO Jeffrey Bohemier
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SGT George Thomas Gagnon - Vietnam was a LONG, LONG TIME AGO. Practically everything’s changed by now from 50+ years ago.
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Edward Samsen
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I prefer to carry a .45 230gr FMJ was designed as a man stopper. flight suit leg pocket holds a Colt .380 Government
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Capt Edward Hannan
Capt Edward Hannan
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I'm just glad that the services are teaching some reasonable combat shooting drills. Back in the "stone age" 50+ years ago, young officers went to "Nam with about 200 rounds of 45 ACP experience. it was all standing holding one handed shooting at either a silhouette or bull's eye. A federal prison SORT team member gets ten times that in a two week training camp.
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GySgt Wayne A. Ekblad
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Marines (of course)! How could you have possibly thought otherwise? :-)
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Specialist Teacher Primary And Secondary
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I concur Sir
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Sgt Joseph Baker
Sgt Joseph Baker
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PFC (Join to see) - I hate to break this to you, but 1985 is in the '80s.
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SGT Carl Blas
SGT Carl Blas
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The Marines have the best handgun course.
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CPT Canon To The Ordinary
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Uh-huh. LOL
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As a federal agent I can tell you that based on this video their technique is just not the best. For example sticking both hand out and drawing the weapon all the way out when you can just shoot from the hip. In addition they seem to just look left and right before holstering their weapon, this is intended for the firer to watch his six, not just his left and right. Lastly, when they holster their weapon they need to do it without looking at their holster, one would not be able to see in the dark. Just some pointers. 
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SPC David Willis
SPC David Willis
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Sgt Paul Long - He clearly said to himself, "AR 670-1 doesn't apply to me, and I don't care what example I set for my soldiers"
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Cpl James Houston
Cpl James Houston
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Didn't watch the video, but would put good odds on any Marine, in specialty unit. This picture is of a kd course. Tactical shooting and known distant defined course of fire are addressed differently. I'd rather stack a door with a boat crew from Force, than anyone else I can think. Especially, someone wearing a fucking beret. I'm not sure what federal agency you work with, but our marksmanship tactical and otherwise is acceptable for FBI training, and there is a reason. Long story short, your ass won't out shoot this marine on any course of fire with any weapon. Name the range, weapons, the date and time I'm there. We can post the video on here let the results speak for themselves.
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Cpl James Smith
Cpl James Smith
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Personally, having been a Security Force Marine in the 90's, this looks like the watered down version they give to those who don't carry a rifle as part of their primary kit, Marines are riflemen first, not pistoleros(however that is spelled). But they do all those rediculous repetitive movements to try and produce good habits of awareness of weapon, ammo, threats, potential threats; and calling this "combat pistol" course....looks like an introduction, not even close to what I was taught in Chesapeake. Could have found a better vid for this.
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Sgt Joseph Baker
Sgt Joseph Baker
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Cpl James Smith - Agree that it looks like these Marines are being instructed to do it slow and methodical to allow them to focus on the movements to create muscle memory. No one would draw his or her weapon this slow in combat.
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