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I don't understand this new Deploy or Get Out policy for people who are non-deployable. I cannot deploy because of medical reasons. I also don't have the time or points to get a honorable discharge. Also my medical situation was obtained when I wasn't on active orders. SO what kind of discharge would I get being in the reserves?
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The deploy or go home policy has appeared several times over the years and this is just the most recent iteration of it. We exist solely to deploy and engage the enemies of the constitution and the republic, all the humanitarian work is icing on the cake and in the end provides valuable training in deploying and sustaining the force. Non-Deployable Soldiers are a drag on the unit because they count against your end strength and ability to operate 24 /7 as combat conditions frequently require. That isn't a statement on their value as people, friends or counterparts nor the value of their service but an unfortunate and true representation of fact.
So think of it this way your unit is only authorized X number of Soldiers; in that number you have low density MOS Troops like mechanics or admin folks. For Engineers mechanics are extremely important but 2 of your 5 track mechs are non deployable, you can't get 2 new ones because the 2 non-deployable folks are on your books, so now 3 have to do the load of 5 during 24 hour ops in a deployed environment. Not a good deal.
For the folks who are non-deployable and get discharged they; unless also non-deployable for adverse action get discharged under honorable conditions and keep many of the benefits available to honorably discharged veterans. If injured or disabled in the line of duty they are also eligible for consideration for VA benefits.
Look at these regs to get a better understanding: AR 600-20, At 600-8-2, They will list a group of supporting regs that will help also. You can google them and download PDF copies to read.
So think of it this way your unit is only authorized X number of Soldiers; in that number you have low density MOS Troops like mechanics or admin folks. For Engineers mechanics are extremely important but 2 of your 5 track mechs are non deployable, you can't get 2 new ones because the 2 non-deployable folks are on your books, so now 3 have to do the load of 5 during 24 hour ops in a deployed environment. Not a good deal.
For the folks who are non-deployable and get discharged they; unless also non-deployable for adverse action get discharged under honorable conditions and keep many of the benefits available to honorably discharged veterans. If injured or disabled in the line of duty they are also eligible for consideration for VA benefits.
Look at these regs to get a better understanding: AR 600-20, At 600-8-2, They will list a group of supporting regs that will help also. You can google them and download PDF copies to read.
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SPC Jeffrey Reese
CSM while your primes is some what accurate the idea it is flawed. In 1990 I had been discharged due to nondepoyability(Forced ETS due to arthritis both knees). A year later I was recalled to active duty for Desert storm. When I asked how this was possible due to my situation they stated due to the needs to the needs of the military. Then I was told I could still fill replacement slots as long as it isn't in the combat zone. So others could be sent and units could still fill missions.
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PO2 Whitney Mulberry-Chaplin
This was exactly my situation during early 90's. I was seriously injured on the flight line. My squadron needed to deploy. I couldn't. I was the only Airframes CDI(QA or saftey inspector) other than the ACTUAL QA boss. Cant have just 1. Sadly another man was deprived of his rotation home based to take my place as we couldn't deploy without the manpower. This is always the issue. Doesn't matter which branch of service you are. If you can't go you damage the mission and the strike force at hand. I had a medical albiet Honorable Discharge. And immediate access to VA facilities. So either shape up or ship out. Will always be this way.
USN. AMH2. 85-93
USN. AMH2. 85-93
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CSM Richard StCyr
SPC Jeffrey Reese - That's typically what local commanders do and have done. My commander and I included ; still didn't get us fully manned with functional line Soldiers but kept us from having to use them to escort LN's and pull headcount. Still kept our ranks short.
Flawed hell, it reflects the truth as applied over 30 years of service and two combat deployments.
Flawed hell, it reflects the truth as applied over 30 years of service and two combat deployments.
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This new department-wide retention policy is based on the underlying premise that in order to build and maintain a ready, lethal force, all military members must be deployable," said Pentagon press secretary Dana White.
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Everyone who is considered medically non-deployable will eventually go through a medical evaluation board. Even if the review board finds you unfit for military service, and begins the process to discharge you, you will walk away with an Honorable (even as a Reservist).........unless you really screw the pooch. Now, as for your medical condition obtained while not on active orders....was it obtained while on Army Reserve time (Battle Training Assembly)? Or Annual Training? Or was it incurred while not on Army time at all?
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