Did the FBI make the right call on Clinton's negligence with classified information?

PVT Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 05 Jul 2016 14:15:09 -0400

Response by SFC Craig Dalen made Jul 5 at 2016 2:16 PM

SFC Craig Dalen — Tue, 05 Jul 2016 14:16:08 -0400

That's hilarious!!!

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 5 at 2016 2:16 PM

LTC Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 05 Jul 2016 14:16:27 -0400

CLASSIC... Great response

Response by PVT Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 5 at 2016 2:16 PM

PVT Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 05 Jul 2016 14:16:57 -0400

In my opinion she is 100% guilty it doesn't matter if you are a brand new private or the president, classified is classified and you do not mix it in nipr systems. The government should be making a example to all not showing the world rules exist for a few not all.

Response by SPC Andrew Griffin made Jul 5 at 2016 2:17 PM

SPC Andrew Griffin — Tue, 05 Jul 2016 14:17:15 -0400

She will NOT be Prosecuted!

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 5 at 2016 2:18 PM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 05 Jul 2016 14:18:54 -0400

The real problem is that elected positions are just given clearances rather than *requiring* them to qualify for a clearance first.

The punishments lower enlisted Joe would get for this crime is what she should get.

Response by CPT Jack Durish made Jul 5 at 2016 2:44 PM

CPT Jack Durish — Tue, 05 Jul 2016 14:44:37 -0400

The fix is in...

Response by LTC Paul Labrador made Jul 5 at 2016 3:24 PM

LTC Paul Labrador — Tue, 05 Jul 2016 15:24:54 -0400

That meme gave me the giggles.....

Response by PO1 John Miller made Jul 5 at 2016 4:08 PM

PO1 John Miller — Tue, 05 Jul 2016 16:08:47 -0400

NO.

Response by PO1 William "Chip" Nagel made Jul 5 at 2016 5:30 PM

PO1 William "Chip" Nagel — Tue, 05 Jul 2016 17:30:42 -0400

Yes, We are still a country of Due Process. No matter your Opinion there are certain Legal Benchmarks that need to be achieved to charge someone with a crime and this failed Miserably. No matter what the Intent it came off looking like Republican Kabuki Theatre.

Response by MSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 5 at 2016 5:51 PM

MSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 05 Jul 2016 17:51:48 -0400

NO. But now they have opened the door anyone who was convicted or has been terminated for "mishandling" classified information. They should overturn their convictions, give them back pay, etc.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 5 at 2016 6:10 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 05 Jul 2016 18:10:09 -0400

As the Secretary of State under EO 13526 she has Original Classification Authority. Can she just not say all the stuff on my personal server is unclassified? So if the FBI was favoring prosecution and she went this route other than the release of truly classified information what would be the next course of action?
How much does the punishment change from storing and conducting official CLASSIFIED business on a personal server to storing and conducting official business on a personal server? Of her equipment how much of it was actually NSA "certified" or equipment that the NSA uses? I do not know all the ins and outs of this story but the only difference I see between PFC Manning is the intended release of information.
I think it highlights the perception that higher rank punishment often is null compared to that of the workers. Reminds me of how a LTC stored two SIPR computers in a key locked desk drawer which was not in a SCIF just a normal office for an entire year deployment (well it was discovered 6 months in) with no punishment, but when that SGT forgot to spin the dial on a SAFE that was actually in a SCIF HOLY CRAP Chapter him OUT!!!!!

Response by TSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 5 at 2016 6:13 PM

TSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 05 Jul 2016 18:13:22 -0400

Let's me rephrase your question a bit. If PVT Private RallyPoint Member had processed classified information on an unclassified system, what would happen to him. It has been shown HRC did in fact have classified material on her private server.

Response by TSgt J.L. Brown Jr made Jul 5 at 2016 7:06 PM

TSgt J.L. Brown Jr — Tue, 05 Jul 2016 19:06:27 -0400

Not only no but he'll no. If it were you or me, we would have lost our career over this, but no she gets the green light to run for POTUS, general P lost a lot over far far less

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 5 at 2016 7:16 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 05 Jul 2016 19:16:53 -0400

First, we don't have access to all the evidence... we have tons of rumors and "leaks" and speculation.. everything except the facts. Knowing we don't know everything, we should understand that our opinions are just that, opinions. That said, my opinion is that there are two sets of rules now in effect... there is one set of rules for us common people and another for those who have power.

None of the poll options are anywhere close to my position. My vote would be... We can't know for sure, however it appears that those with power are afforded special treatment.

Response by SMSgt Thor Merich made Jul 5 at 2016 7:34 PM

SMSgt Thor Merich — Tue, 05 Jul 2016 19:34:59 -0400

Having been in law enforcement for 30+ years and most of that time was in investigations, I have investigated and filed thousands of criminal cases. After hearing the press conference this morning, I was sure that charges would have been filed. The FBI laid out a great case against her. I was shocked when he announced that the FBI would not recommend filing charges. Clearly, the FBI was influenced from the outside.

The easy solution would have been to file charges on the failure to protect classified material, offer Clinton a deal to plead guilty on a misdemeanor, and be sentenced to probation only. Or worst case, file the charges and let a jury decide. I have seen many folks prosecuted on far less evidence then the FBI had on Clinton.

Response by Sgt Kelli Mays made Jul 5 at 2016 7:58 PM

Sgt Kelli Mays — Tue, 05 Jul 2016 19:58:19 -0400

SERIOUSLY...oh my gosh...since she didn't mean to then it's okay....Hillary better than anyone else should know better...we all know she knew better...she is sneaky and wanted to hide things and wanted other things to be convenient and therefore she installed her own private servers....this is the biggest bunch of malarkey I've ever heard of in my entire 53 years on this planet. It's now #1 on my list for BS/BOLOGNA! What a CROCK!

Response by SSG Roger Ayscue made Jul 5 at 2016 8:31 PM

SSG Roger Ayscue — Tue, 05 Jul 2016 20:31:14 -0400

Response by SPC Kirk Gilles made Jul 5 at 2016 8:49 PM

SPC Kirk Gilles — Tue, 05 Jul 2016 20:49:11 -0400

No.

Response by SFC Everett Oliver made Jul 5 at 2016 9:20 PM

SFC Everett Oliver — Tue, 05 Jul 2016 21:20:57 -0400

Hanging on my Military wall in my home office is an ARCOM for processing over one million Comsec transactions without a single loss or compromise. Where would I be today if I had been extremely careless with any of those transactions?

Response by Sgt Joseph Baker made Jul 5 at 2016 11:17 PM

Sgt Joseph Baker — Tue, 05 Jul 2016 23:17:10 -0400

While in the Navy Times we read today of an PO3 who transferred classified information onto his personal USB, intent unknown. He got probation, a $7,500 fine, and of course will never hold a security clearance again.....

Response by SSG William Jones made Jul 6 at 2016 12:36 AM

SSG William Jones — Wed, 06 Jul 2016 00:36:00 -0400

Response by SSG William Jones made Jul 6 at 2016 12:42 AM

SSG William Jones — Wed, 06 Jul 2016 00:42:21 -0400

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 6 at 2016 6:51 AM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 06 Jul 2016 06:51:38 -0400

If I check my email from home is that me using a private server?

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 6 at 2016 9:23 AM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 06 Jul 2016 09:23:52 -0400

If "gross negligence" in handling classified information doesn't disqualify you as a presidential candidate, what does?

Response by SSG Richard Reilly made Jul 6 at 2016 10:47 AM

SSG Richard Reilly — Wed, 06 Jul 2016 10:47:26 -0400

Response by MSG Jay Jackson made Jul 7 at 2016 3:01 PM

MSG Jay Jackson — Thu, 07 Jul 2016 15:01:13 -0400

OK lets get all our shots in now, because in January she might be the new COC. I just wonder if Monica will be invited to the parties in DC, after all she helped Hillary to become the lady she is today and I am sure Bill would not mind saying hello again.

Response by Lt Col John (Jack) Christensen made Jul 8 at 2016 11:37 AM

Lt Col John (Jack) Christensen — Fri, 08 Jul 2016 11:37:32 -0400

Responded in another post relating to question. Our problem is that we are all military and have the DOD concept of handling classified information. That concept is different in DOS, which is different in DOJ, Which is different in NSA, Which is different in DOC, etc., etc. There is not a standardized description on how to handle classified information by agencies. Heck, there isn't even agreement between agencies on what should and should not be classified! Military has pretty clear guidelines on classified information thus can take action when those guidelines aren't followed but those guidelines become muddy in other government agencies.

Response by SSG Stephan Pendarvis made Jul 8 at 2016 12:47 PM

SSG Stephan Pendarvis — Fri, 08 Jul 2016 12:47:31 -0400

This is eternally FUNNY!!!!