Different standards for different MOSs?

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 12 Apr 2014 14:23:31 -0400

Why is it that different MOSs uphold standards differently? EXAMPLE: Food Service has more lax standards for the way a junior Soldier addresses an NCO, no parade rest, no sergeant, ect. However, in a combat arms MOS most junior Soldiers have discipline in civilians even. If there is ONE regulation and ONE NCO Guide, why are there disparaging differences?

Response by SGM Matthew Quick made Apr 12 at 2014 2:25 PM

SGM Matthew Quick — Sat, 12 Apr 2014 14:25:45 -0400

It's all on the Soldiers' leadership...Soldiers are a reflection of them.

Response by 1SG Johnny Carter made Apr 12 at 2014 2:34 PM

1SG Johnny Carter — Sat, 12 Apr 2014 14:34:56 -0400

They are different because leaders don't uphold the only standard which is the Army standard.

Response by SFC William Swartz Jr made Apr 12 at 2014 4:17 PM

SFC William Swartz Jr — Sat, 12 Apr 2014 16:17:15 -0400

As with all individuals, people will do what they are allowed to do or allowed to get away with...differing styles in leadership could be to blame or the differing cultures within the Combat Arms and the Support realms. Upholding standards should be the same across the board regardless of MOS, and no NCO should be allowing Soldiers to get away with not meeting those standards.

Response by LTC Paul Labrador made Jun 6 at 2014 10:17 PM

LTC Paul Labrador — Fri, 06 Jun 2014 22:17:56 -0400

While we shouldn't turn a blind eye to lax discipline, I will say that one size does not fit all. What is effective for an infantry or armor company can be counterproductive for a medical clinic or DFAC. People have to know and understand the standards, but also exercise a little common sense on how to apply them.

Response by SGT Curtis Earl made Sep 16 at 2014 6:39 PM

SGT Curtis Earl — Tue, 16 Sep 2014 18:39:58 -0400

In a band unit, we're lax when we're by ourselves. I'm Curt or Curtis. I'm only SGT Earl when I'm in trouble or I don't like you enough to let you call me Curt. We do our mission. We excel at the Army HOAH stuff and we don't have to lock everyone up at parade rest to get them to do their jobs. Most people come into the band with at least bachelor's degrees if not a masters; we're professionals at what we do. We're older than raw recruits, so we know how the game is played. I honestly can't remember the last time anyone in my unit was forced to stand at parade rest.

Of course the commander is always SIR and 1SG is always TOP. But if I've been to your house and played with your kids, don't call me SGT Earl -I'm Curt or Curtis or anything but STUPID, lol. The key is to turn it on and maintain your bearing at Work.

Response by SPC James Bertino made Mar 27 at 2019 9:05 PM

SPC James Bertino — Wed, 27 Mar 2019 21:05:13 -0400

Yes but the basic standards were trained in Basic.