Do any regulations cover using a POV for travel to TDY and return to AIT?

SPC Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 21 Sep 2016 17:38:13 -0400

My unit is telling me if I go tdy and return to ait (fort Stewart to fort sill) that I may not be authorized to drive my pov there due to it being a "safety issue". I don't know how they could get away with doing this considering my school is almost 6 months long. Is there any regulations on this matter etc. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Response by Sgt Christopher Wenzel made Sep 21 at 2016 7:09 PM

Sgt Christopher Wenzel — Wed, 21 Sep 2016 19:09:35 -0400

First and foremost, welcome to the military, boot. Suck it up.

Secondly, there's usually a base order detailing travel accommodations. No boot is allowed to have their POV during the training pipeline. That's just the way it is. What I would do it contact the S-1 (or Army equivalent) on the base or command regulation.

Or you can keep bitching. You do you, man.

Response by MSG Pat Colby made Sep 21 at 2016 7:20 PM

MSG Pat Colby — Wed, 21 Sep 2016 19:20:54 -0400

Your Mode of Travel to TDY can be you using a POV. You will never get "In and Around Mileage". It's not so much the travel regs as who specifically is cutting the orders and checking the blocks on what is listed in your Additional Instructions.

As long as "Cost of Constructive Carrier" is checked, you should only get re-reimbursed what a plane ticket would cost.

Response by 1SG Al Brown made Sep 21 at 2016 7:48 PM

1SG Al Brown — Wed, 21 Sep 2016 19:48:46 -0400

I did the same thing (Ft Stewart to Ft Leonard Wood) for MOS reclass. I drove my car per my orders (POV allowed). You'll have to find a place to park it when you get there. Ask your class NCOIC where to park it and what the rules are for driving it on post. It won't be their first rodeo on this issue. Re-classing is a normal thing.

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 21 at 2016 8:40 PM

MSG Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 21 Sep 2016 20:40:47 -0400

Regarding the "safety issue" that would be that the JFTR allows 400 miles per day driving. If they were to authorize that, they would also have to allow adequate travel time and per diem as well.

As MSG Colby stated, it could be a funding issue so as SGM Marquez says, check the SH screen or the ATRRS Course catalog at the link below. IF the SH does not prohibit you to have a POV then ask you command if you could take leave in conjunction with TDY and enter your TDY location at you leave location i.e. Ft Sill. Note, you will have to do the same for your drive home. This way, they are less likely to disapprove as they will not incur a cost; you will. Allow on your DA 31 sufficient SAFE driving time.

http://www.atrrs.army.mil/atrrscc

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 22 at 2016 5:49 AM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 22 Sep 2016 05:49:08 -0400

Do you mean TDY enroute with return authorized? It's a big difference. If you reenlisted for a new MOS the Army is paying for your training and you are going TDY enroute. That means the Army authorizes your travel pay, not your unit. If you currently have a follow on assignment then you are traveling to TDY enroute to your PCS. You are authorized to travel by plane, or by POV if it costs less for the Army.

Response by SGT David T. made Sep 22 at 2016 7:20 AM

SGT David T. — Thu, 22 Sep 2016 07:20:13 -0400

I reclassed and was allowed my POV. I was the envy of all the AIT Soldiers lol

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 22 at 2016 10:02 AM

1SG Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 22 Sep 2016 10:02:25 -0400

Go to the course information on ATRRS; if you have not received a welcome letter, policies will be posted there. If the school house allows the use and/or parking of a POV, then your next step is to get in the weeds of authorization lines on your orders. If it does not specifically authorize travel by POV if advantageous to the government, you can't go that way and will need an amendment to your orders.
Next step is reimbursement for costs if you go by POV. You'll need to do the worksheet in DTS that shows the relative costs associated with modes of travel. If your CoC authorizes it, you can get up to the cost of a plane ticket for your mileage.
Good luck, SPC Private RallyPoint Member. Hope this helps.

Response by SSG Mark Franzen made Sep 24 at 2016 10:17 PM

SSG Mark Franzen — Sat, 24 Sep 2016 22:17:35 -0400

look in TRADOC REG 37-2 THAT SHOULD HELP YOU.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 5 at 2019 11:50 AM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 05 Mar 2019 11:50:56 -0500

Accoding to the Joint Federal Travel Regulation (JFTR) you may choose to drive instead of fly but you are only authorized 1 paid travel day, and you will only be reimbursed the cost of what it would have cost for a ticket there and back.