Do Civilian Contractors, Military, & Government Employees have Cause for a Class Action Suit Against the Government?

COL Mikel J. Burroughs — Tue, 01 Mar 2016 11:03:10 -0500

RP Members how many individuals do you know have lost their security clearances and were subsequently punished or discharged for their mishandling of Classified materials.

So, if Hillary is not similarly treated, or prosecuted given the magnitude of her actions, could a Class Action suit be filed against the government for denying them equal protection! What do you think RP Members?

Response by LTC Stephen F. made Mar 1 at 2016 11:05 AM

LTC Stephen F. — Tue, 01 Mar 2016 11:05:15 -0500

I imagine that some civilian contractors have sufficient cause for a Class Action Suit against the Government COL Mikel J. Burroughs. I don't think that Hillary Rodham Clinton has sufficient cause even if she trues to invoke the royal we.
I hope that justice will be fully applied to the cases of Hillary Rodham Clinton before the end of this summer.

Response by SCPO Jason McLaughlin made Mar 1 at 2016 11:09 AM

SCPO Jason McLaughlin — Tue, 01 Mar 2016 11:09:03 -0500

Why just limit the question to contractors? Military and Government employees also have been discharged or fired because of the same issue.

Response by SFC William Adamek made Mar 1 at 2016 11:21 AM

SFC William Adamek — Tue, 01 Mar 2016 11:21:49 -0500

Equal and fair treatment of all classes rarely happens. Look at within our own military (past and present) and how an equal offense is provided unequal punishment based on rank.

Response by Capt Tom Brown made Mar 1 at 2016 11:24 AM

Capt Tom Brown — Tue, 01 Mar 2016 11:24:49 -0500

So far at least it has not been proven that HC committed any crime. Not knowing the full inside story all we can do is wait and let the system work. Remembering Whitewater in which the entire power of a special prosecutor couldn't dig up any prosecutable proof against her, to present day Benghazi where she is accused by some of masterminding the Benghazi incident, she has made her enemies, both personal and political look like ham-hocks. It would seem if 'they' could prove one charge against her that would have been enough to move forward with an indictment. Now 'they' apparently have all the emails, maybe 'they' will have better luck. Here is a link which HC haters might enjoy reading.
http://www.wnd.com/2015/05/here-they-are-hillarys-22-biggest-scandals-ever/

Here they are: Hillary’s 22 biggest scandals ever

During his 1992 campaign for the presidency, Bill Clinton was fond of promising America, “You get two for the price of one,” indicating Hillary Clinton would act as his co-president. But the nation got much more than it bargained for, as the top power couple brought a load of baggage with them into the White […]

Response by CPT Jack Durish made Mar 1 at 2016 11:36 AM

CPT Jack Durish — Tue, 01 Mar 2016 11:36:01 -0500

Countless crimes have gone unpunished. Is this sufficient reason to preclude punishment of all?

Response by Capt Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 1 at 2016 11:54 AM

Capt Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 01 Mar 2016 11:54:12 -0500

The FBI said it was still investigating, so I have reason to believe they should be building a case that will likely fall in her lap in pretty short order. I had hoped the Justice Dept would do something, but I suppose any hope that they weren't a partisan enterprise died long ago.

Response by SSG Warren Swan made Mar 1 at 2016 12:10 PM

SSG Warren Swan — Tue, 01 Mar 2016 12:10:26 -0500

Sir until the court system has had the chance to do it's thing, I'm going to reserve judgment on her. As far as others go, yes I've seen folks beat down (not physically), for security lapses that were MUCH less than what we have here, but that's the same thing as GEN Patreus. He got to retire with everything, whereas a JE,NCO, or JO would've been lucky to have pants when they get done being hammered for their mistake, and everything is taken away.

Response by LTC John Shaw made Mar 1 at 2016 1:13 PM

LTC John Shaw — Tue, 01 Mar 2016 13:13:38 -0500

Equal protection, 14th Amendment only applies when the states are acting in different ways to a citizen. Dredd Scott as an example. The situation with HRC is the federal government selectively prosecuting which the DOJ is allowed to do. It is not an equal protection issue and the Court will dismiss

Response by A1C Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 1 at 2016 1:20 PM

A1C Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 01 Mar 2016 13:20:56 -0500

I would say yes. Based on the facts we have now and that is that she had a private server and it has been proven to have had classified information on it. If she is not prosecuted then it should be open season on a class action lawsuit.

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 1 at 2016 1:36 PM

MAJ Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 01 Mar 2016 13:36:05 -0500

INDICT, sleepwalk, and confine. Waterboarding and scouring (w/salt added) optional. We know the facts, is she practiced at lying [4 decades] to pass a polygraph test???

Response by Sgt Judy Leonard made Mar 1 at 2016 2:19 PM

Sgt Judy Leonard — Tue, 01 Mar 2016 14:19:13 -0500

Lots of politicians have done far worse. She didn't do anything wrong.

Response by CWO3 Warren Gaudreau made Mar 1 at 2016 3:24 PM

CWO3 Warren Gaudreau — Tue, 01 Mar 2016 15:24:54 -0500

you would think there should be equal treatment, but Hillary Rodham Clinton is in a protected class.

Response by LTC Yinon Weiss made Mar 1 at 2016 6:22 PM

LTC Yinon Weiss — Tue, 01 Mar 2016 18:22:55 -0500

Just because somebody else may have violated the law, doesn't give you the right to.

Response by SSG Leo Bell made Mar 1 at 2016 6:24 PM

SSG Leo Bell — Tue, 01 Mar 2016 18:24:55 -0500

All I have to say is look at the emails of the kids who sent top secret information to Wikipedia. He was wrong for what he did. He got punished for that and is in jail for at least twenty years. That courts had to be proven guilty by a military court. I say let this go to court and let them pass judgment.

Response by 1LT Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 1 at 2016 7:21 PM

1LT Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 01 Mar 2016 19:21:50 -0500

If no charges are filed...YES.

Response by COL Ted Mc made Mar 2 at 2016 2:59 AM

COL Ted Mc — Wed, 02 Mar 2016 02:59:27 -0500

COL Mikel J. Burroughs - Mikel; It's "well established law" that the failure of the state to prosecute one scofflaw is NOT a defense for other scofflaws who commit the same offence that the non-prosecuted scofflaw committed.

Sorry, no class action lawsuit and any lawyer who tells you that you have a reasonable chance of success needs to have their head candled (preferably using the light cast by their burning law degree).

8 U.S. Code § 798 and EO 13526 provide AMPLE room for a successful defence since they impose requirements for the Prosecution to prove things that it simply cannot prove.

Response by TSgt Lars Eilenfeld made Mar 2 at 2016 1:11 PM

TSgt Lars Eilenfeld — Wed, 02 Mar 2016 13:11:52 -0500

Yes a class action can be filed however you need to find an attorney with a big enough pair to do it. It has already been established she broke the laws pertaining to classified material. She states that she was not aware of anything classified earlier, yet she has authority to classify items, which makes her either Stupid or a Liar, either way voting this asshat into the Oval office disrespects all who came before her. If she is not prosecuted for her treasonous crimes then a president has been set, then nobody should be prosecuted. If you are unsure of the use of treason then look it up, when you knowingly violate the trust of those who have given you that trust.

Response by CW3 Kevin Storm made Mar 2 at 2016 3:30 PM

CW3 Kevin Storm — Wed, 02 Mar 2016 15:30:27 -0500

I say I hope they all go in on the class action and win big time!

Response by TSgt Melissa Post made Mar 3 at 2016 5:45 AM

TSgt Melissa Post — Thu, 03 Mar 2016 05:45:56 -0500

very good point. I was just thinking the other day, why would we want to elect someone to our presidency when they can't even keep classified matters under wraps. It's idiotic.

Response by SSG Leonard J W. made Mar 4 at 2016 12:45 AM

SSG Leonard J W. — Fri, 04 Mar 2016 00:45:04 -0500

COL Mikel J. Burroughs, that meme is priceless! Mrs. Clinton should not have any privileges that any other employee or contractor has. One Rule ensures fairness and equality. It just doesn't seem fair or equal.

Response by PO1 Kerry French made Mar 7 at 2016 9:49 PM

PO1 Kerry French — Mon, 07 Mar 2016 21:49:57 -0500

WHY ISN'T THIS WITCH IN JAIL????

Response by PO1 Kerry French made Mar 9 at 2016 11:49 PM

PO1 Kerry French — Wed, 09 Mar 2016 23:49:08 -0500

Response by PO1 Kerry French made Mar 9 at 2016 11:50 PM

PO1 Kerry French — Wed, 09 Mar 2016 23:50:31 -0500

Response by PO1 Kerry French made Mar 9 at 2016 11:52 PM

PO1 Kerry French — Wed, 09 Mar 2016 23:52:23 -0500

Response by CAPT Kevin B. made Mar 10 at 2016 12:07 AM

CAPT Kevin B. — Thu, 10 Mar 2016 00:07:27 -0500

Equal protection isn't the question. It's equal prosecution, which by the way, isn't a guarantee.

Response by CWO3 Warren Gaudreau made Mar 17 at 2016 2:00 PM

CWO3 Warren Gaudreau — Thu, 17 Mar 2016 14:00:53 -0400

I think it would be classified as unequal treatment under the law. They should have a case.