Do Corporals receive NCOERs?

SSG(P) Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 27 Dec 2018 23:42:39 -0500

I was made a Corporal at the beginning of the month. I know NCOER stands for Non-Commissioned Officer Evaluation Report. However, I don't see Corporals very often so I'm not sure if they get NCOERs too. If I do how often are they. If not, why? PFC Private RallyPoint Member SFC Joe S. Davis Jr., MSM, DSL SSG(P) James J. Palmer IV aka "JP4" LTC Stephen F. CPL Dave Hoover SGT David A. 'Cowboy' Groth PVT James Strait SSG Private RallyPoint Member Capt Dwayne Conyers CPT Jack Durish

Response by 1SG Steven Stankovich made Dec 27 at 2018 11:46 PM

1SG Steven Stankovich — Thu, 27 Dec 2018 23:46:17 -0500

SSG(P) Private RallyPoint Member, CPLs can receive NCOERs, but they are not required. Research AR 623-3 and DA PAM 623-3 for the specifics.

Response by SSG(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 27 at 2018 11:52 PM

SSG(P) Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 27 Dec 2018 23:52:42 -0500

No. If you look at the form there’s one for SGT and then another for SSG through 1SG

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 27 at 2018 11:54 PM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 27 Dec 2018 23:54:20 -0500

AR623-3, ch 1-8, d.(2) “NCOs and their appropriate rating officials will use DA Form 2166–9 series (NCOER), DA Form 2166–9–1A, and the electronically generated “Rater Tendency” and “Senior Rater Profile” reports, as applicable.
Note. For corporals (CPLs) only the DA Form 2166–9–1A will be used; no NCOER will be prepared.”

Response by SGT Michael Thorin made Dec 27 at 2018 11:59 PM

SGT Michael Thorin — Thu, 27 Dec 2018 23:59:24 -0500

I love your response 1SG Steven Stankovich. I’ve always been of the mind that to answer a question is good, but to tell where to go to research it is to give knowledge. SSG(P) Private RallyPoint Member, your first lesson as a junior NCO is to always find out more than just the answer to your questions, but to find in what manual you need to find it.

This will be what will make or break you as an NCO. Knowing where and how to find these answers using your own research is the most beneficial way to further your military career and receive promotions.

I’m not saying there is anything wrong with asking for the answer to your questions, but to ask where to look to find the answers to your questions will help you more than you can imagine. Memorize what manuals do what. If you do all of this, you will help yourself out more than you will ever know.

Response by SGT David A. 'Cowboy' Groth made Dec 28 at 2018 5:29 AM

SGT David A. 'Cowboy' Groth — Fri, 28 Dec 2018 05:29:53 -0500

We had one CPL in our Armor Unit and he was given an NCOER.

Response by SGM Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 28 at 2018 10:17 AM

SGM Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 28 Dec 2018 10:17:30 -0500

Like a lot of folks have already stated, it’s not required and busy people will probably not look to write you an NCOER. However, I would recommend that you ask for one anyway. The sooner you learn to write evals the better, as they require a very specific style.

Tell your leadership that you want one for the training value. Maybe if they don’t do a full write up you could at least sit down and discuss some of the important aspects. You’ll be appreciative of the practice further down the road.

Response by CPT Jeff Robinette made Dec 28 at 2018 11:05 AM

CPT Jeff Robinette — Fri, 28 Dec 2018 11:05:28 -0500

I saw only 1 CPL the whole time. I was in Germany. I had not thought about it until my PLT SGT mentioned that Fire Team Leaders should be CPLs rather the Sp/4s. I am of that opinion as well.

Response by 1LT Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 28 at 2018 2:59 PM

1LT Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 28 Dec 2018 14:59:37 -0500

I was a CPL for 3 years. (68E promotion points are ridiculously high) and all I ever received were 4856s.

Response by 1SG Dennis Hicks made Dec 28 at 2018 7:47 PM

1SG Dennis Hicks — Fri, 28 Dec 2018 19:47:02 -0500

I had a number of corporals in units I was serving in, none received an official NCOER that was processed. I did however write one or two up as a learning experience on two Corporals over the years to show them what to expect down the line. The evaluation system wasn't set up to rate corporals while I was in. considering Corporal is a lateral appointment that can be removed easier than an UCMJ action and almost all Corporals are either on the promotion list for SGT or will be soon it would be a wasted effort with little return.

Response by SGT Donald Croswhite made Jun 16 at 2020 9:09 AM

SGT Donald Croswhite — Tue, 16 Jun 2020 09:09:17 -0400

Short answer, no.