Do I have to be in uniform at the airport when PCS’ing? Or, am I authorized to wear civies?

PFC Casey Bunker — Sat, 21 Jul 2018 01:17:05 -0400

Response by SPC Margaret Higgins made Jul 21 at 2018 1:43 AM

SPC Margaret Higgins — Sat, 21 Jul 2018 01:43:12 -0400

Private First Class if I had to guess: I would say that you should be in uniform.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 21 at 2018 1:48 AM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 21 Jul 2018 01:48:49 -0400

Ignore those earlier responses. Absolutely DO NOT travel in uniform unless required to.
The only times you should travel in uniform is if you are specifically directed to travel in dress uniform (you won't be), or your unit chartered a plane and you are traveling in your duty uniform.
Absolutely, do not ever travel through civilian airports unless you are directed to. For instance, traveling from Afghanistan on R&R.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 21 at 2018 3:54 AM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 21 Jul 2018 03:54:40 -0400

You should be in Civilian clothes when PCSing to another duty station.

Response by CSM Darieus ZaGara made Jul 21 at 2018 7:58 AM

CSM Darieus ZaGara — Sat, 21 Jul 2018 07:58:34 -0400

No you do not, unless otherwise directed on your orders and when traveling with your organization who can set the standard for dress and travel. Thank you for your service.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 21 at 2018 8:02 AM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 21 Jul 2018 08:02:31 -0400

Please, for the love of God, DO NOT!

Staff duty is going to know who you are, because you'll look like a private and you'll have your ID and orders. But if you really want to arrive in them, bring them in your carryon and change at the airport before you drive to your post.

Response by SGM Steve Wettstein made Jul 21 at 2018 10:23 AM

SGM Steve Wettstein — Sat, 21 Jul 2018 10:23:25 -0400

No you do not have to wear your uniform to/at the airport.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 21 at 2018 10:42 AM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 21 Jul 2018 10:42:33 -0400

Wear civilians and your boots.

Response by Sgt Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 21 at 2018 11:50 AM

Sgt Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 21 Jul 2018 11:50:52 -0400

PFC Casey Bunker Wear your civilian clothes, but as mentioned by GySgt Steve Pearson, have a uniform in a carry on bag, in case your checked bags are lost. Many years ago, I wore my uniform when traveling to fly military standby. The response that I received from some, was less than welcoming.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 22 at 2018 9:15 AM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 22 Jul 2018 09:15:34 -0400

Please no. Don’t wear your uniform or ASUs. CIVILIANS all the way. Plus it’s super uncomfortably to travel in uniform so...just don’t

Response by SPC William Szkromiuk made Jul 22 at 2018 7:46 PM

SPC William Szkromiuk — Sun, 22 Jul 2018 19:46:25 -0400

I am confused? Back when I served, I could understand that advise. But why is it advisable to not travel in uniform today? Comfort notwithstanding?? Security?
I often see military personnel in uniform at the airport. I always try to thank them for their service if possible or give them a big thumbs and a smile.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 23 at 2018 9:16 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 23 Jul 2018 21:16:42 -0400

Negative! You never wear your uniform when traveling through civilian airports unless directed too. Only a jackass would want to ring that much attention to himself by making himself a target. Don’t do it. Civies only!

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 24 at 2018 2:36 AM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 24 Jul 2018 02:36:37 -0400

This was an issue that has change over and over again. As it stands now unless your are directed to you DO NOT travel in a military uniform. It brings attention to you in an environment that has a potential of being hazardous. That being said thoes coming out of Basic and AIT have different rules put in place by TRADOC. Should thoes that just graduated and get on a flight right after fly in uniform, no for the same afor mentioned reason.

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 24 at 2018 11:57 AM

1SG Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 24 Jul 2018 11:57:24 -0400

You at no circumstances should be traveling in uniform unless your are given an order to.

Response by 1SG James Kelly made Jul 30 at 2018 8:14 PM

1SG James Kelly — Mon, 30 Jul 2018 20:14:24 -0400

When I made 1SG I wore mine to my new duty station.
But that's me; and nobody fucks with a 1SG.

;)

Response by PO1 Barbara Matthews made Aug 2 at 2018 8:52 PM

PO1 Barbara Matthews — Thu, 02 Aug 2018 20:52:33 -0400

BEFORE 9/11 it was common place for active duty to wear uniforms in transit from one duty station to the next. It used to have perks. I remember one while in uniform I was bumped up to first class and given free drinks. (On Eastern Airlines.... Anyone remember them?)

Nowadays times sure have changed... And not for the better. It is unsafe to travel in uniform. Military members get targeted for crime and terroristic attacks. It is a real threat, especially if you are traveling alone. Gently place your uniform in checked baggage and hide your ID card. Keep it with you but not in your wallet. Hide it in a sock or some other obscure place where it won't get lost.

Besides, Airlines are cheap and they hardly ever give you a perk. Not to mention people will look at you. You might get a few "Thanks for your service" but that's about it.

You'll be a lot more comfortable in civvies. You won't have to keep your guard up as much and you don't have to worry as much about your Military Bearing as long as you behave yourself.

You'll get plenty of chances to wear you uniforms. For now relax and be comfortable.

Response by TSgt David Holman made Aug 10 at 2018 4:45 PM

TSgt David Holman — Fri, 10 Aug 2018 16:45:26 -0400

Unless you are specifically ordered to travel in uniform, then it is never recommended. It makes you a target. Wear civilian attire.

Response by SSgt Daniel d'Errico made Aug 11 at 2018 2:39 AM

SSgt Daniel d'Errico — Sat, 11 Aug 2018 02:39:21 -0400

It depends on what your orders read, the stops in foreign countries you might might have to transfer flights thru and the airline you're on.

Response by 1SG William Svoboda made Aug 12 at 2018 5:04 PM

1SG William Svoboda — Sun, 12 Aug 2018 17:04:31 -0400

No, never unless required and when in public transport remember your OPSEC remember this https://securityawareness.usalearning.gov/opsec/. Be aware of your surroundings and don't be so giving of your PPP like telling proudly you even serve.

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Response by CPT(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 26 at 2018 12:34 PM

CPT(P) Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 26 Aug 2018 12:34:14 -0400

This is one of those recent changes under the previous administration that was served on the platter of “security”. I don’t buy it. Servicemembers around an airport used to be a common site and I kind of miss it. Btw, it’s a nice out for the lounges who require you to be in uniform to get in.

Response by SMSgt Tom Burns made Aug 26 at 2018 3:22 PM

SMSgt Tom Burns — Sun, 26 Aug 2018 15:22:56 -0400

Acceptable Civilian Attire unless to required to be in uniform.

Response by SGT John Lawrence made Aug 30 at 2018 8:58 AM

SGT John Lawrence — Thu, 30 Aug 2018 08:58:04 -0400

I was stationed in USAEUR from 1971 to 1975 and we were required to travel in dress uniform on all travels regardless, finally in the summer of 1975 USAEUR started allowing travel in civies on airlines except military chart flights. Traveling on civilian flights in Europe was fine, it was when you got back to the States that caused problems especially at airports during changing planes it could be quite hard as soldiers were not always treated very well, something I can attest very well to. In 1975 if you wanted to travel on PCS back State side and use non military chart flight then you paid for the flight and at your new duty station you applied for reimbursement for the plane tickets which you did not always get the same amount back that you paid.

Response by LTC James McElreath made Sep 4 at 2018 1:40 PM

LTC James McElreath — Tue, 04 Sep 2018 13:40:47 -0400

Your best bet is to not wear a uniform. Takes up more room in carry on luggage. All your uniforms will be in storage on board your plane, so grab it and your orders in hand and report to the new base assignment.

Response by SSG Dale London made Sep 7 at 2018 4:10 PM

SSG Dale London — Fri, 07 Sep 2018 16:10:49 -0400

PFC Casey Bunker - who told you you had to be in uniform? While in transit between duty stations you are not "on-duty." You are on leave. This should be clear to you from the simple fact that the last thing you do before walking out the door is get your DA31 dated and signed.
The only time I can imagine wearing your uniform when PCS'ing is if you are travlling Space-Available via military transport (i.e. on a MAC C-141). If you are going by civvie transport wear civvie clothing.

Response by LTC Gene Moser made Sep 16 at 2018 5:59 PM

LTC Gene Moser — Sun, 16 Sep 2018 17:59:02 -0400

Once upon a time it was required. Of course you also had to have your sword and spear as well. No longer.

Response by SPC Chris Ison made Sep 20 at 2018 12:44 PM

SPC Chris Ison — Thu, 20 Sep 2018 12:44:19 -0400

So the reason everyone is telling you to travel in civies is FOR SAFETY. I can't believe no one explains this stuff to newbies, it is called situational awareness. There are people who will target US service members. If you are coming from IET (basic) to AIT, you won't have much choice in how you present yourself, except to not wear the uniform. However, if you are granted any leave while PCSing, and about a month before your PCS move, stop cutting your hair. The hair is, also, a dead give away, don't use your military ID as an ID card, get a state ID or Drivers license (you SHOULD already have this). All of this is true even in the continental united states.

Always think safety. What image am i presenting to the public? Am i making myself a target? Be wary of strangers, especially ones asking you direct questions about your service, like where you are stationed, especially if your MOS requires a sensitive security clearance. "Spies" do not approach you by identifying themselves as Spies, they develop you as a source of information by building trust. Standard questions like what unit are you in, and what is your MOS are fine. If they ask something direct or specific like what department do you work in, that is a sign they are getting too interested. You can also be vague in your response. If you are with the 82nd airborne in a signal or Intel mos, you don't have to answer with your specific BN, Company, etc. Just say 82nd airborne. If you have an encounter with a stranger and they are drilling you on your MOS, what your duties are, what unit you are in, etc, REPORT THIS TO CID. It is always better to be safe than sorry. Might turn out the guy is ex army and is just interested in how things have changed, might turn out the guy is an agent of a foreign government, and they are phishing for gullible recruits.

You can be vague about everything. Most of us are proud to serve, so we like to "humble brag". Yeah I am a tough guy I am with the 82nd, Ranger bn, etc. However, once you are in these sensitive positions, you actually have to be the unsung hero. You do not even have to mention you are in the Army. What do you do for a living? Maybe your MOS is 94E you do not have to say, "I am a radio technician for the army." You can say, "I am in electronics". or "I work for a radio station", etc. If your MOS is linguistics, say you are a court interpreter. Anything to distract form the fact that you have access to military secrets, that is what they are looking for. Obviously you can tell your family the truth.

Response by Cpl Bernard Bates made Sep 24 at 2018 10:35 AM

Cpl Bernard Bates — Mon, 24 Sep 2018 10:35:49 -0400

My how things have changed in 61 as a marine 2 of us got orders to Okinawa from camp lejune . we traveled by bus to camp Pendleton calif. Took 3 days we wore civvies but found out that we had to report in in class A uniform or get office hrs. so we went into a deserted barracks along with a lot of other marines who changed from civies to uniform. Looks like the military doesn't want the civilian population to know you are in the military. I hitched a ride home more than once wearing a proud marine uniform & the first car that came along and give you a ride. Before Vietnam GI,s were respected but all that changed in a hurry after the war had been going on for a couple years. Semper Fi.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 24 at 2018 12:50 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 24 Sep 2018 12:50:08 -0400

If traveling State side no uou do not have to wear your uniform. Coming from or going to an overseas assignment it is required to were your dress uniform

Response by SSgt Gary Chaffin made Sep 24 at 2018 7:47 PM

SSgt Gary Chaffin — Mon, 24 Sep 2018 19:47:30 -0400

Interesting discussion. When I was in, back in the 60's, we had to wear the uniform to get the standby discount

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 30 at 2018 3:09 AM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 30 Sep 2018 03:09:56 -0400

Call me " old school " but, Army regs. forbid anyone from traveling in uniform unless its in their official capacity and the transportation is DoD. Besides, as much as freebies one can get at any airport in the US, I will not attract attention to myself or to my family.

Response by CPO John Krawczyk made Oct 5 at 2018 3:57 PM

CPO John Krawczyk — Fri, 05 Oct 2018 15:57:42 -0400

I have always PCS'ed in civies.

Response by Sgt Carlos Barrera made Oct 8 at 2018 2:55 PM

Sgt Carlos Barrera — Mon, 08 Oct 2018 14:55:20 -0400

As long as you do not wear BDU's man that gets old very fast
If you have to wear that uniform just so that everyone knows you are a soldier, man am sorry for you (personal opinion)
But if your whole unit is traveling and all are wearing BDU's go for it

Response by SP5 Rich Levesque made Oct 10 at 2018 7:50 PM

SP5 Rich Levesque — Wed, 10 Oct 2018 19:50:48 -0400

In the "Bad 'ol days" we had to wear it. At least to the airport. Change in the men's room. When you land, change back.

Response by 1stSgt Laurence Smith made Oct 12 at 2018 6:19 PM

1stSgt Laurence Smith — Fri, 12 Oct 2018 18:19:09 -0400

IT IS A SHAME that today military personnel can become a target for terrorists and other bad people. During my time 1961 - 1989 I always traveled in my military uniform.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 27 at 2018 7:32 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 27 Oct 2018 19:32:25 -0400

No! Tasteful civilian attire.

Response by SSG Brian G. made Nov 4 at 2018 11:56 PM

SSG Brian G. — Sun, 04 Nov 2018 23:56:50 -0500

The ONLY time you have to be in uniform is when reporting from one duty station to another. When you travel you do not and should not be in uniform. In fact we were always encouraged to NOT travel in any sort of uniform as it drew even more attention to us, even more so than the haircut and bearing.

Response by SSgt Brian Carpenter made Nov 8 at 2018 8:48 PM

SSgt Brian Carpenter — Thu, 08 Nov 2018 20:48:06 -0500

if you are PCS'ing, you are under orders and you are officially on duty, traveling under those orders. Perhaps it is different in the ARMY, but in the USAF, we were proud of our service.

Response by CAPT Patrick Mulcahy made Dec 3 at 2018 2:57 AM

CAPT Patrick Mulcahy — Mon, 03 Dec 2018 02:57:31 -0500

I haven't traveled in uniform since 1992. At that time, hijackings were prevalent and uniformed military personnel were taken as hostages first and often executed. In the Navy when you go on-line to arrange your travel, there is a code which authorizes you to travel in civilian attire for operational reasons. It does not require any justification past you requesting it.

Response by SPC Byron Skinner made Dec 6 at 2018 6:56 PM

SPC Byron Skinner — Thu, 06 Dec 2018 18:56:20 -0500

Sp4 My how times have changed. During the Vietnam era you had to travel in Uniform in Airports, Train or Bus Stations. …todays rules are much more humane to the traveling service member.

Response by SPC Dwight Turner made Dec 10 at 2018 1:15 AM

SPC Dwight Turner — Mon, 10 Dec 2018 01:15:45 -0500

depends how you like to look

Response by SPC Dwight Turner made Dec 10 at 2018 1:17 AM

SPC Dwight Turner — Mon, 10 Dec 2018 01:17:02 -0500

be proud how you look that's a start wether in uniform or civies

Response by Sgt Mervyn Russell made Dec 14 at 2018 9:03 AM

Sgt Mervyn Russell — Fri, 14 Dec 2018 09:03:31 -0500

Only if you are expecting a military discount would you want to wear class A uniform. Not sure they even give this discount anymore, this was during the Vietnam War, but this was a different time altogether.

Response by SGT Robert Andrews made Dec 14 at 2018 10:06 PM

SGT Robert Andrews — Fri, 14 Dec 2018 22:06:57 -0500

Never ever travel in uniform on a civilian flight anywhere

Response by SSgt Daniel d'Errico made Dec 15 at 2018 3:31 AM

SSgt Daniel d'Errico — Sat, 15 Dec 2018 03:31:33 -0500

As said by the other responses you see posted, it's up to your travel oders directive and if tou're travelling by AMC, Military comtracted airline or plain old civilian airline. Plus if you're lucky, travelling civilian airline, you might get upgraded to business or first class. This happens so few times but who knows, it might happen to you. My experiences have been good and bad. Seated in the rear of the plane by the toilets and kitchen areas, bad. But first to receive my food and drinks, plus not a long walk during turbulence to the toilet, good. Sometimes free drinks while in uniform. Travelling thru civilian airports as opposed to AMC terminals is likewise good or bad. Especially if you help some one who could use a hand with let's say two kids in tow. Or some one elderly. It's either your choice or your commands directive on how you will dress for your PCS travel by aircraft.

Response by CW3 Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 15 at 2018 12:24 PM

CW3 Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 15 Dec 2018 12:24:50 -0500

Of course not. In fact you *shouldn't* be in uniform when not on duty in a public place unless you are enroute to/from duty station and are unable to change for whatever reason. Obviously this does not mean you have to change into civilian clothes if you are going off base for lunch or something during a normal duty day, but never assume that you need to wear your uniform every time you go out in public off base. BLUF: Don't be in uniform outside of military duty unless instructed to do so by your CoC.

Response by PO1 Jason Frantz made Dec 18 at 2018 1:23 AM

PO1 Jason Frantz — Tue, 18 Dec 2018 01:23:10 -0500

While i did not wear mine to fly from basic to A school i did from school to my first duty station and was bumped up to first class on a 16 hour flight... cant complain there...

Response by SFC Robert Walton made Dec 23 at 2018 11:38 AM

SFC Robert Walton — Sun, 23 Dec 2018 11:38:43 -0500

Not sure about todays policy however in the old days it stated on your orders whether you should or should not travel in uniform. When I went to the middle east PCS my orders clearly stated to Fly in civilian attire. Same as when I returned. However when I went to Germany I wore (at the time) Class A's in accordance to orders. I think it would still say on your orders.

Response by SPC Steven Nihipali made Dec 23 at 2018 7:18 PM

SPC Steven Nihipali — Sun, 23 Dec 2018 19:18:24 -0500

PLEASE! PLEASE OH PLEASE travel in uniform.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 21 at 2019 9:18 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 21 Jan 2019 21:18:41 -0500

In today's travel environment I would not travel in Uniform. While most people will thank you for your service, there's some that hate the military and will instigate confrontation by harassing you, getting you in situations that will be negative for you and your service if photographed, and may even result in physical contact with you so they can sue for assault. The attitude of today's liberal press will probably spin the story in the liberal's favor and you know there will be cameras rolling from every angle. Do yourself a favor and travel in Civvies. That way you'll be able to relax and enjoy the trip instead of having to be constantly on guard to prevent being blindsided.....

Response by 1LT Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 3 at 2019 8:15 AM

1LT Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 03 Feb 2019 08:15:01 -0500

Hi everybody,
New to the site. I feel i have to comment on this because i was brought here by the famous google looking for an answer to this the actual policy in this. I'm traveling TDY and i noticed a SSG in full OCP uniform. I didn't approach him because i was not completely sure in the policy. AR 670-1 paragraph 3-7b-c doesn't explicitly say that you WILL NOT wear your duty uniform when flying commercially, it merely states that soldiers may wear appropriate civilian attire or the uniform. With that being said, while you MAY wear the uniform while traveling commercially, i personally highly discourage it for reasons outlined in previous comments. The biggest one is to avoid bringing unwanted attention to yourself. If your decide to wear it so that you can "take advantage of certain perks" well.... to me personally that says a lot and i'll just leave it at that. My take on it, don't wear your uniform when traveling. Appropriate civilian attire period.

Response by SGT Juan Robledo made Feb 14 at 2019 12:06 AM

SGT Juan Robledo — Thu, 14 Feb 2019 00:06:12 -0500

Depends on your orders

Response by SGT Daniel Durkovich made Feb 15 at 2019 4:44 PM

SGT Daniel Durkovich — Fri, 15 Feb 2019 16:44:33 -0500

The climate now, why would you want to put yourself at risk. Last time checked your not allowed to wear the uniform off duty unless your going to or from duty.

Response by SSG Larry R. Jones made Feb 27 at 2019 9:31 AM

SSG Larry R. Jones — Wed, 27 Feb 2019 09:31:46 -0500

Never travel in your uniform unless you a directly orders to. The main reason is for security reasons. The most usual time you will ever travel in your Dress uniform is when you are doing an escort for a fallen Brother or Sister.

Response by LCpl Steve Smith made Mar 4 at 2019 3:20 PM

LCpl Steve Smith — Mon, 04 Mar 2019 15:20:15 -0500

Yeah don't wear your shit going the civilian side. If you were doing a military transport yeah okay but civilian nah. You will have a chance/time to change before you report in and your uniform will look crisper. save the dog and pony for when you are ordered to

Response by SPC James Gromley made Mar 8 at 2019 8:37 PM

SPC James Gromley — Fri, 08 Mar 2019 20:37:32 -0500

I completely agree with SGT. Boyd unless you are told that you have to you are not required to.

Response by CDR Tom Davy made Mar 11 at 2019 5:30 PM

CDR Tom Davy — Mon, 11 Mar 2019 17:30:57 -0400

There seem to be two questions being addressed: 1. MUST I wear my uniform when traveling and 2. SHOULD I?
MUST is dependent on service rules and regulations and OPSEC requirements. SHOULD (assuming you may) is a personal choice. I agree that flying in uniform outside of the US is stupid. I have a civilian ruck/carry-on for foreign travel. However, when I was on AD I loved to travel in uniform, especially when I was enlisted.
Today, uniformed service members are allowed on early (good as overhead storage seems to be shrinking) and in my experience, facilitates free upgrades and drinks.
I am curious as to the opposition to domestic flying in uniform.

Response by SPC James McMahon made Mar 18 at 2019 2:57 PM

SPC James McMahon — Mon, 18 Mar 2019 14:57:33 -0400

I would suggest travel in non uniform attire. Using military ID may cause some officers to thank you or your service. Don't draw attention to yourself for your own safety.

Response by SSG Jeffery Payne made Apr 2 at 2019 12:45 AM

SSG Jeffery Payne — Tue, 02 Apr 2019 00:45:23 -0400

I wouldn't wear your Greens anymore. You used to be able. I used to get bumped up to 1st class on planes. I came in from Germany and the Customs Official pulled me out of line and stamped my papers.

Response by LCDR Jerry Maurer made Apr 12 at 2019 8:10 AM

LCDR Jerry Maurer — Fri, 12 Apr 2019 08:10:37 -0400

Sad commentary on our society that the military now wants us to travel in civvies to keep us safer. Used to be required to travel in dress uniform, but no more. I remember when the change was made and I still traveled in dress blues for awhile, but it's just not smart.

Response by Maj Dale Smith made Apr 17 at 2019 2:02 PM

Maj Dale Smith — Wed, 17 Apr 2019 14:02:19 -0400

Unless your orders specify that you must travel in a uniform, travel in civilian clothing. If your PCS travel involves military airlift or transportation in a military vehicle, you should probably be in a uniform, but again, your orders and your outbound assignments desk can answer these questions. You do not wear a uniform when using civilian transportation unless orders specify it, or you are on a special detail such as mortuary watch. For security of yourself and the services, you do not wear your uniform as somone somewhere may be building a file on you that could be used during capture.

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 17 at 2019 9:48 PM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 17 Apr 2019 21:48:06 -0400

I'm going against the grain here...

Army policy is that you can fly in ACUs (combat uniform). Once we roll out the new Class As (Army Green Uniform, aka "Pinks and Greens") I'm sure the ACU will no longer be authorized in transit as we shift our image and culture.

I'm a Guardsman, and I fly across the state of Texas for drill. I fly in to drill in civvies, because I have the time to change before formation. But the flight back home is always a rush from final formation, trying to beat TSA and make the last flight out. More often than not, I'm in ACUs.
I get a lot of looks, and some perks do come my way. Of course I decline the free alcoholic beverage, but I usually accept the pre-boarding (flight is usually full). But yeah, I gotta mind my Ps and Qs.
PERSEC? Sure, you gotta be aware, but nobody has a gun inside the secure area. Outside the secure area I have mine.
Setting a good image for the service? I'm sitting in chair charging my phone reading a book, in or out of uniform.
Setting off a bunch of veterans who can't pre-board? Yeah, that's always a risk.

Bottom line: Army says it's authorized, but other services have their own rules. Don't do anything your rank can't handle. If you're the new guy you don't just have to abide by policies, but the whim of every NCO you come across. You're better off staying under the radar and not giving anyone a reason to know who you are until your E5 board. I'm glad you're proud of your career path; thank you for your service.

Good luck.

Response by 2LT Earl Dean made Apr 21 at 2019 12:08 PM

2LT Earl Dean — Sun, 21 Apr 2019 12:08:52 -0400

Do not fly in uniform unless ordered to do so. The rules were changed many many years ago after a young man u grew up with by the name of Suggs was thrown from moving air craft landing on the Tar Mac. He survived but shortly after the Army changed to not fly civilian air ways in uniform. The uniform while we would all die for it also services as a target for terrorist. Even asking for military discounts should be done with caution. Never know who is listening. God bless you all.

Response by SrA Zo Evans Sr made Apr 21 at 2019 3:26 PM

SrA Zo Evans Sr — Sun, 21 Apr 2019 15:26:12 -0400

Back when I was serving I always wore my uniform. However the world was much friendlier. Nowadays, I’m not so sure if I would unless I was directed to ...

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 21 at 2019 3:43 PM

LTC Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 21 Apr 2019 15:43:06 -0400

Due to the recent attacks on American Military personnel, it is highly encouraged that traveling in civvies is preferred and safer.
DoD has stopped issuing base decals due to the threats against military and dependants and the violent attacks.
Unless directed in orders or other higher authority do not travel in uniform.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 22 at 2019 12:15 AM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 22 Apr 2019 00:15:06 -0400

It’s really up to you bro, I GNF’s unless specified and made mandatory you do you bro as most would say do what your rank can handle lol.

Response by SSG Ken Gilder made Apr 22 at 2019 7:29 PM

SSG Ken Gilder — Mon, 22 Apr 2019 19:29:33 -0400

There once was a time when you could fly half fare on commercial aircraft, provided there were available seats, and you were in a Class A uniform. Not any more. Today, you may fly in uniform, but it is not recommended. There will always be some antifa dipstick that wants to start a confrontation.

Response by SSG Ken Gilder made Apr 22 at 2019 7:36 PM

SSG Ken Gilder — Mon, 22 Apr 2019 19:36:39 -0400

There once was a time when you could fly for half fare on commercial aircraft, provided there were seats available, and you were in uniform. Not today. You may travel in uniform, but it is not recommended. There will always be some antifa dipstick that wants to start a confrontation.

Response by SMSgt Clayton Cortinas made Apr 26 at 2019 11:10 AM

SMSgt Clayton Cortinas — Fri, 26 Apr 2019 11:10:42 -0400

When on official travel I always wore my service uniform when prudent. I always received a few extra perks from the airline crew (such as free upgrade to 1st class, etc.). That being said, in most cases of foreign travel, with possible exception of specially chartered flights, you most likely should not wear you uniform and become the magnet that attracts an idiot or idiot looking for a potential target. Never mistake caution as cowardice. Remember the times we live in and the violent butt holes we share the planet with.

Response by Sgt Justen Ortloff made Apr 26 at 2019 1:13 PM

Sgt Justen Ortloff — Fri, 26 Apr 2019 13:13:14 -0400

When I was in it was optional. I think it is discouraged much anymore basically out of security concerns. Now when you check in to your new command, every command is different, and it should tell you what to do on your orders, if not, there will be a contact number on them, call and find out what they require when checking in.

Response by SGT Reinaldo Rios made Apr 26 at 2019 4:35 PM

SGT Reinaldo Rios — Fri, 26 Apr 2019 16:35:52 -0400

depend what order your XO or 1st sgt tell you , for all personal .but remember as more camouflage your identity is the better for you .the enemy can id you when your are in uniform out of the base or in some places like international air port and became you can became target for the bad ones. IF your order is specific and say you HAVE TO wear your uniform do so...remember military personal are the ones who sometimes KNOW or HAVE training can deter or stop THOSE ONE WHO looking to do harm or damage to our country and the citizen... after consult your leaders and if exist RED FLAG for specific location in your route .when I was in active duty and the TDY was for foreign location we follow the recommendation of the chain of command. I KNOW your are proud to be a soldier but be wise and proactive for your safety... drive on soldier.

Response by GySgt Thomas Lieb made Apr 28 at 2019 11:24 AM

GySgt Thomas Lieb — Sun, 28 Apr 2019 11:24:42 -0400

I think the right answer, to your specific question ("do I have to .....") for current times is that it has been left as an option. (with some exceptions overseas) But you, under the current directive, would not don full Class A, B, C or (mod) (as was required, back in the day) but would wear the appropriate utility uniform (BDU) of your service. If I'm not mistaken the only current situation wherein you would be required to wear Class A or full Dress uniform would be under orders as an Honor Escort.

Response by MSgt Jim Pollock made Apr 28 at 2019 11:42 AM

MSgt Jim Pollock — Sun, 28 Apr 2019 11:42:00 -0400

It's simply OPSEC. There is no operational need to wear a uniform while traveling commercial. The risks outweigh the benefits.

These days, the enemy is obscure and often hidden amongst us. A low profile is the best policy.

Response by SGT Beth Day made Apr 28 at 2019 3:29 PM

SGT Beth Day — Sun, 28 Apr 2019 15:29:19 -0400

Back in my day, which I admit was MANY days ago

Response by LTC Ken Connolly made Apr 28 at 2019 9:32 PM

LTC Ken Connolly — Sun, 28 Apr 2019 21:32:26 -0400

Get advice from your Squad Leader or Plt Sgt. on proper dress attire when traveling on civilian conveyances. Most major Airports have a USO place where you may be able to change into military (Class A) uniform to meet your family and friends after your arrival to your home Airport.

Response by 1SG Brian Adams made Apr 29 at 2019 9:49 AM

1SG Brian Adams — Mon, 29 Apr 2019 09:49:36 -0400

Civies...

Response by CPL Brian Clouser made Apr 29 at 2019 4:44 PM

CPL Brian Clouser — Mon, 29 Apr 2019 16:44:57 -0400

I have been out for a while now but the only time I ever wore my uniform traveling was when I few from basic to AIT. Even after I was mobilized and went on a 4-day pass I change to cities as soon as I got to the airport Like SFC Jason Boyd said unless you are so ordered to don't wear your uniform traveling. Even if you are ordered to, do not wear your class C, it's a work uniform and is not meant for traveling

Response by SGT Brian Thompson made Apr 30 at 2019 12:48 PM

SGT Brian Thompson — Tue, 30 Apr 2019 12:48:09 -0400

Folks, this really is not a debatable question. Almost every theatre OCONUS has protocols for traveling MAC or civilian. If you don't know what they are, best to consult your 1st Sgt. before traveling. My last trip to Iraq we traveled home on leave half MAC the other half Civilian, we changed from BDU to civies.

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made May 25 at 2019 5:33 PM

MSG Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 25 May 2019 17:33:15 -0400

Don't wear your uniform if you don't have to. OPSEC!!

Response by Sgt Anthony Leverington made May 28 at 2019 11:31 AM

Sgt Anthony Leverington — Tue, 28 May 2019 11:31:30 -0400

The only time I can remember ever wearing my uniform while going through a civilian airport was, when traveling to my first duty base right after tech school. However, that was back in the mid 80's. The rules may have changed since then. Come to think of it, that was the last time I ever traveled on a civilian plane while going to another base. Every time from that point on, was military planes.

Response by CPT George Niles made May 28 at 2019 1:55 PM

CPT George Niles — Tue, 28 May 2019 13:55:19 -0400

...the quick answer is no. However, if you want to get ahead of the line when boarding the plane, they ask for uniformed personnel.

Otherwise, your boarding pass sequence determines your position.

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made May 29 at 2019 2:18 AM

SPC Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 29 May 2019 02:18:01 -0400

You are authorized to travel in uniform, however i would advise traveling in civilians. it brings less attention to you and you're more comfortable. The only time you should really travel while in uniform is if you're leaving to or coming from a theater environment, on emergency leave, or if required to for a particular duty (escorting during a dignified transfer or where it would otherwise be deemed appropriate)

Response by SPC Dave Janis made May 30 at 2019 11:40 AM

SPC Dave Janis — Thu, 30 May 2019 11:40:31 -0400

Travel in Civilians, like the NCos said, carry it in your belly bag (airport) or in the car with you and change before going on post, DO NOT ever travel on non charter aircraft in uniform

Response by SGT Michael Wells III made May 30 at 2019 10:47 PM

SGT Michael Wells III — Thu, 30 May 2019 22:47:14 -0400

Have to be? You cannot be. You never travel in uniform unless your unit is traveling together.

Response by CPT Edward Barr made May 31 at 2019 9:42 PM

CPT Edward Barr — Fri, 31 May 2019 21:42:30 -0400

When you are traveling on Military ORDERS, which include your in/out Theater and R&R, you travel in uniform, unless instructed otherwise. When on personal travel, civilian clothes.

Response by SGM Victor Santos made May 31 at 2019 10:23 PM

SGM Victor Santos — Fri, 31 May 2019 22:23:35 -0400

You must always always travel in civis and try not to use any affiliation logos we still at war with terrorism. Travel as a regular civilian person avoid at all cost to become a target.

Response by SSG Dave Mathews made Jun 1 at 2019 1:27 AM

SSG Dave Mathews — Sat, 01 Jun 2019 01:27:19 -0400

When I pcs'd to Ethiopia, I traveled with a diplomatic Passport and my orders were very strict that I traveled in civilian clothes. However, that was the only time in my 20 years I ever wore civies. I always traveled in uniform because my orders NEVER stipulated civilian attire !! You DO NOT deviate in any way from your travel orders!! Besides are you so ashamed of you patriotism that you want to hide it ?????

Response by Sgt Lyle Summerfield made Jun 1 at 2019 1:41 AM

Sgt Lyle Summerfield — Sat, 01 Jun 2019 01:41:42 -0400

When I was active duty, we ALL flew in our class-A uniform. That's how we left Boot Camp, and every other service personal had their uniform on. I guess, we just run scared now days, pity, we let fear rule us! Proud Jarhead, oorah!!! U.S.M.C. PROUD!!!

Response by SSG Carlos Garcia made Jun 1 at 2019 11:32 PM

SSG Carlos Garcia — Sat, 01 Jun 2019 23:32:57 -0400

As a matter of fact, you don't wear any type of uniform while traveling because of security reasons and the safety of soldiers. I was stationed in Wuerzburg, Germany at the time of the 9/11 and all Battalions, Companies, down to the lonely soldiers were given the order not to wear our uniform while coming or leaving work for those of us living out of the post. In fact, when we arrived in Frankfurt from our mission been x-ed out in Lagos Nigeria we had to have our wives bring us civies at the TARMAC. So, no, you do not wear your uniform in an airport unless you want to become a soft target.

Response by LCpl Cody Collins made Jun 2 at 2019 10:49 AM

LCpl Cody Collins — Sun, 02 Jun 2019 10:49:22 -0400

I see times have really changed ! I was always in uniform when Transferring from one duty station to another. Even when I was stationed in Okinawa Japan. When taking leave we had to be in dress greens, and when leave was over. You reported in Dress Greens. My how times have changed

Response by CW3 Michael Clifford made Jun 3 at 2019 7:51 AM

CW3 Michael Clifford — Mon, 03 Jun 2019 07:51:13 -0400

The advice to travel in civilian clothes is spot on. I spent 17 years investigating crimes of which the Army has a vested interest and there is a portion of the world’s society who hates American or its institutions and a soldier in uniform is one such occasion. I was the victim of such hatred in March 1975 as I graduated MP School at Fort Gordon, GA. We were required to graduate in dress greens and elected to travel in them in the flight to my parents’ home for my two-week leave. Vietnam was winding down (it would official end in May 1975). As I’m with 8’ of the terminal at Hartsfield International Airport in Atlanta, some 18-19 year old dirty, shirtless, barefoot in dirty blue jeans ran at me, yelled at me that I was a baby killer and then spit on me. My MOS aside, I was going to kill the stuffing at this little SOB and took one step towards him, when a booming voice said “Don’t do it, he’s not worth it.” Turned around to see a black Master Sergeant from the signal corps in full uniform.

At that time I realized that I was in a large family and they all wore combat boots. Race relations in the mid-1970s were far worse that today, especially in the Deep South. So for a black sergeant to stop a major fight from occurring amongst a white soldier and a white inbred, was something. Do not put yourself in my shoes because you too can have those same rotten memories in your 63 and their not any fun.

Response by CPT Gurinder (Gene) Rana made Jun 4 at 2019 2:32 AM

CPT Gurinder (Gene) Rana — Tue, 04 Jun 2019 02:32:40 -0400

I believe we all, or most of us, have completed permanent change of stations in our careers in uniform and, I have never done a PCS in uniform myself. However, when you report for duty following a PCS uniform is not a choice, it is mandatory. Hence, if you are going straight from the airport to sign in for duty, carry-on your fatigues for sure. Otherwise, relax and enjoy your time and place prior to duty. Remain on your left ahead of your right Private and don't try to change the process.

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 4 at 2019 10:58 PM

MAJ Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 04 Jun 2019 22:58:07 -0400

Wear civies as others have said due to security reasons and just take your uniform in your carry on and hit up the USO after you land and change into your uniform there prior to checking in is what I would do.

I remember when I lived near Augusta and flew quite frequently 4 years ago I constantly saw soldiers in uniform in Augusta and Atlanta airport and knowing what I know now I just am puzzled.

Response by 1SG Marc Jensen made Jun 10 at 2019 7:20 AM

1SG Marc Jensen — Mon, 10 Jun 2019 07:20:41 -0400

I love it when old timers reminenice about their service and attempt to apply their policies and regulations to today however, what you did 20, 30, 40, 50 years ago is not relevant to this OP's question.

Like SFC Boyd has repeatedly stated, due to threats from extremists (islamists, leftists, criminals), both domestically and internationally, servicemembers no longer travel in service uniform (Class A/B type) and it is only appropriate to travel in fatigues/utilities/combat uniform on a military controlled aircraft (grey tail or contracted), and only as part of a deployment (theatre, training center, unit rotation).

Response by MSG William Hesser made Jun 10 at 2019 10:41 AM

MSG William Hesser — Mon, 10 Jun 2019 10:41:29 -0400

You can travel in uniform, but can be uncomfortable as you must maintain your uniform in a true military manner. In past years, when we had to fly 'military stand by' we had to be in uniform. Now that all tickets are purchased under contract services, the need to wear a uniform is not needed.
In my unit, in SF we were told not to wear it to keep from drawing attention from those that have a potential plan to do damage to the plane. Being low key you can provide the element of surprise if there is one who is trying to do damage to the plane.

Response by SSG Thomas Barry made Jun 16 at 2019 3:09 PM

SSG Thomas Barry — Sun, 16 Jun 2019 15:09:24 -0400

better chance of an upgrade in dress uniform if nothing else. BE PROUD OF YOUR SERVICE

Response by LTJG Sandra Smith made Jun 16 at 2019 5:48 PM

LTJG Sandra Smith — Sun, 16 Jun 2019 17:48:38 -0400

Looks like this regulation has changed some; it used to be required that you be in uniform if traveling on a military reserve, or stand-by status.

Response by SSgt Mike Watson made Jun 25 at 2019 10:23 PM

SSgt Mike Watson — Tue, 25 Jun 2019 22:23:31 -0400

Won't be required? Seems I remember always being required to travel in uniform while PCSing. Going home on leave not so. However I often would, easier for my folks to spot me at the airport and I was proud to wear the uniform, although some people I knew not so much. I remember on leave wearing my uniform going to sporting events with my dad so I could salute during the anthem. If your not happy and proud to wear your uniform perhaps you need to ETS next chance, go into another line of work.

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 27 at 2019 6:06 PM

LTC Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 27 Jun 2019 18:06:37 -0400

I, for one, would be proud to wear the uniform, again, of the United States Army. That lets the general population know that you are fighting for their freedoms so they can whine and cry about what's wrong with their part of America. I think that when PCSing and going through an airport, you would have the gonads to be proud of what you do for the United States of America.

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 1 at 2019 1:41 PM

1SG Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 01 Jul 2019 13:41:06 -0400

Have to love the CMD that this young troop came from...he wasn't briefed? Or he did not pay attention. The SFC below is precisely correct.

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 1 at 2019 1:42 PM

1SG Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 01 Jul 2019 13:42:17 -0400

SFC Jason Boyd is spot on!! Feel sorry for the Soldier's command not briefing him or he did not pay attention...C'mon people!!

Response by SSgt Jeff Moore made Jul 1 at 2019 6:47 PM

SSgt Jeff Moore — Mon, 01 Jul 2019 18:47:04 -0400

You either are seeking praise, or making yourself a target. If you are not looking to be patted on the back by the "thank you for your service" people, why not travel in comfort and get where you are going without confrontation.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 3 at 2019 4:32 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 03 Jul 2019 16:32:32 -0400

Absolutely Never travel in uniform, flying or driving. You're on PCS travel NOT deployment. Only report to Replacement Company in uniform.

Response by Devansh Chaurasiya made Jul 5 at 2019 2:21 AM

Devansh Chaurasiya — Fri, 05 Jul 2019 02:21:38 -0400

You should be in you civil dress unless directed otherwise

Response by LCpl Steve Zupan made Jul 5 at 2019 10:28 PM

LCpl Steve Zupan — Fri, 05 Jul 2019 22:28:38 -0400

Civies, yes, but no "kiss me, fuck me" shorts...

Response by SSG Carl Gamel made Jul 8 at 2019 9:06 AM

SSG Carl Gamel — Mon, 08 Jul 2019 09:06:24 -0400

I don't know when or why, they changed the policy, but back before the last few years, you always traveled in class A or B uniform. I was always proud to wear my uniform, especially coming back from both tours in Vietnam. In the 60s, 70s and 80s,I always wore my uniform,when PCSing.

Response by CW4 Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 9 at 2019 4:16 PM

CW4 Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 09 Jul 2019 16:16:01 -0400

Regulations authorize the wear of the uniform for official travel but it is not required unless directed. Read the the reg and be smart about your choice.

Response by SPC Nancy Greene made Aug 14 at 2019 2:29 AM

SPC Nancy Greene — Wed, 14 Aug 2019 02:29:46 -0400

When I PCS’d to Germany, I flew commercial and traveled in civics. When I left Germany on a Military hop, I had to travel in class A or B uniform.

Response by PO1 John Williams made Aug 22 at 2019 4:13 PM

PO1 John Williams — Thu, 22 Aug 2019 16:13:26 -0400

I got out in '73, so I expect things to have changed. I always wore Class A and was proud of being in the Navy. Didn't like being in uniform when returning from Nam, though. Now, about the only times I see uniforms is when a special group travels together OR a service member escorting a deceased member. I make it a point to thank him/her personally.

Response by PO2 Douglass Kemp made Aug 23 at 2019 4:02 AM

PO2 Douglass Kemp — Fri, 23 Aug 2019 04:02:48 -0400

The ONLY time I wore my uniform when changing duty stations or ANYTHING like that, was when I was driven (drivEN) from RTC to NTC across the street in Great Lakes, IL.

Response by SFC Robert Walton made Aug 23 at 2019 9:08 AM

SFC Robert Walton — Fri, 23 Aug 2019 09:08:21 -0400

Check your orders they will normally state to fly in or out of uniform. If the orders are blank then ask your chain of command. I only pcs'ed twice that my orders said Civilian attire. But that was the old days.

Response by PO1 Richard Norton made Aug 24 at 2019 2:24 PM

PO1 Richard Norton — Sat, 24 Aug 2019 14:24:59 -0400

Uniform requirements change all the time. 1976 to 1996 while I was on active duty it changed several times. It also depend upon where you are PCS,ing to and from. It should be stated on your orders if you are authorized to travel in civilian clothing.

Response by SFC Robert Walton made Aug 25 at 2019 11:16 AM

SFC Robert Walton — Sun, 25 Aug 2019 11:16:20 -0400

PFC Casey Bunker Okay i have read almost this entire thread and asked questions no acceptable answers yet. What does it say on your orders? now for the rest of you that say NO what regulation are you using to cover for not wearing the Uniform?

Response by SFC Domingo M. made Aug 26 at 2019 10:30 AM

SFC Domingo M. — Mon, 26 Aug 2019 10:30:00 -0400

I was drafted in 1969 and retired in 1990, my orders always told me whether I was to travel in uniform or civilian attire. Don't your orders specify any longer what you should wear. The determining factor was if you were traveling military chartered flight or civilian. One of the consideration then was in case of hijacking, you did not want your military affiliation known. Has this changed?

Response by SFC Domingo M. made Aug 26 at 2019 10:30 AM

SFC Domingo M. — Mon, 26 Aug 2019 10:30:27 -0400

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 26 at 2019 11:00 AM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 26 Aug 2019 11:00:44 -0400

Agreed. Unless warranted. For instance I am Cadre for a basic training unit with the drills and we send a trainees who graduate in asu's

Response by SGT Sherrie Fanning made Oct 3 at 2019 9:42 PM

SGT Sherrie Fanning — Thu, 03 Oct 2019 21:42:38 -0400

Absolutely Not. West Civilian Clothing..

Response by SGT Jody Beach made Oct 4 at 2019 7:47 AM

SGT Jody Beach — Fri, 04 Oct 2019 07:47:28 -0400

NO you need to wear Hawaiian shirt, khaki shorts, sandals.. Oh do not forget the straw hat ......

Response by PO3 Steve Sto made Oct 6 at 2019 6:39 PM

PO3 Steve Sto — Sun, 06 Oct 2019 18:39:11 -0400

I was in the Navy from 1969-1973. We were required to were dress uniform when flying to receive military discount.

Response by MSG Johnathan Mathes made Oct 6 at 2019 11:30 PM

MSG Johnathan Mathes — Sun, 06 Oct 2019 23:30:39 -0400

Bluf( bottom line up front) no unless orders state report in uniform..otherwise where your civies... carry a complete utility uniform in your carry on so if they loose your luggage you have a uniform...until you get your luggage to follow on

Response by 1SG Victor Sotil made Oct 7 at 2019 12:05 AM

1SG Victor Sotil — Mon, 07 Oct 2019 00:05:07 -0400

Its recommended to wear civilian attire, and to be honest, unless your are coming back from deployment most people will wear civilian clothes. Now, if you feel so proud of your uniform, wear it right stand tall, and look good. In uniform you will be held at higher standards, no drinking, no acting stupid, and there is so many "no" that it's better to be in civilian clothes.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 8 at 2019 10:18 AM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 08 Oct 2019 10:18:08 -0400

DO NOT travel in any uniform or anything for that matter that makes you out to be military. Solid colors, dress casual and wear a cap. (covers short haircut) Be proactive in your own security, even stateside. Not everyone in the US supports the troops.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 8 at 2019 2:21 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 08 Oct 2019 14:21:13 -0400

Look, the only time I have ever traveled in uniform was in 2008 leaving Basic at Ft. Sill, OK to permanent station - there wasn't time to change out of ACU, to catch my flight. Any other time - DO NOT TRAVEL IN UNIFORM! Unless you are traveling on Military Aifcraft (Space A)

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 8 at 2019 3:48 PM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 08 Oct 2019 15:48:17 -0400

The following are from AR 670-1, Paragraph 3-7B-C (May 2017 Version e.g. The Current Version)

3-7B: b. Personnel traveling on Air Mobility Command and non-Air Mobility Command flights on permanent change of station orders, temporary duty (TDY), emergency leave, or space-available flights are authorized to wear civilian clothes. Personnel must ensure that the clothing worn is appropriate for the occasion and reflects positively on the Army. (See DODD 4500.54E for information concerning mandatory wear of civilian clothing in foreign countries. The individual’s travel orders will reflect information authorizing wear of civilian clothing.)

3-7C: Personnel on official travel and traveling by commercial travel means may wear the service uniform, the ACU, or appropriate civilian attire, unless restricted by the commander.

So if you're on official business and your commander hasn't restricted the wear you are authorized to wear any of these items. If you are flying AMC, you can wear appropriate civvies if you desire (your travel orders "should" say so but that may only apply if PCSing OCONUS).

I just had this conversation during redeployment. I went to my CDR and asked if she was restricting wear, she wasn't, I flew home in OCPs. Good thing too, as the wife surprised me with a paid professional photographer to capture the moment when I landed. I would have looked ridiculous in the serviceable civvies I had remaining.

It has to be echoed, don't travel in uniform on commercial air in foreign lands unless directed by higher.

Edit: Also, you're representing the Army. If your flight gets cancelled or they lose your bags and you lose your mind and lash out there are about a million cameras plus all those cell phones to record the start of the end of your career. Be professional.

Response by CPL Justin Higgins made Oct 8 at 2019 10:46 PM

CPL Justin Higgins — Tue, 08 Oct 2019 22:46:57 -0400

You know what everybody? When I was in the Army I was told not to wear my uniform while traveling. But I wore it anyway. If I can wear it to Iraq or Afghanistan I can wear to to the airport. And if anybody had a problem (nobody ever did I’m a large man) then they were more than welcome to let me know being that, this is a free country. All I ever got was gratitude and appreciation. I agree with CPT John Hannaberry. The public needs to see and appreciate the people who defend their freedom. Why should we hide with our head in the sand?

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 9 at 2019 7:59 AM

LTC Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 09 Oct 2019 07:59:12 -0400

This changes with the times. This isn't the 60s, 70s, or 80s. It is a post-9/11 world where several more changes have occurred in policy. AR 670-1 says one thing, AR 525-13 says another. In 2007(-ish) DoD changed the policy against wearing the class C (duty) uniform while travelling. They were looking to promote a public perception that we are still a country at war, and to remind the public we still have service members in harms way. It was a PR move. I don't recall if the policy encouraging the wear of the uniform was rescinded or not however, a couple years later the push was to go more low key and remove the uniforms whenever possible in an effort to reduce the potential targeting of service members while travelling.

The only time I am aware of when you are still required to travel in Class A uniform is departing initial entry training enroute to your next duty assignment, but this is debatable. Generally, look at your orders, it will tell you if a uniform is required or not. Otherwise, ask your chain of command, that is what they are there for.

Response by LCpl Hilton Hoskins made Nov 5 at 2019 1:47 AM

LCpl Hilton Hoskins — Tue, 05 Nov 2019 01:47:47 -0500

You can but you don't have to. When traveling through civilian means of transport (and even military transport depending) you're not required to be in uniform while traveling. As far as doing so, it might be a good idea not to travel in your uniform for your own safety. When traveling through civilian means it might be a good idea to go in your civies. Reason being is that, you blend in and it will make it easier for you to have a comfortable ride without any interruptions. It would be a good idea to inform the clerks that you're military so they could make sure that you have priority to get on the flight due to the fact that any military personnel traveling between duty stations are priority. You can do that if you want to make sure you get to your duty station quick.

Response by PO1 Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 5 at 2019 10:14 PM

PO1 Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 05 Nov 2019 22:14:06 -0500

I’ve worn mines by choice or I didn’t have time to change bc of an event. I do not recommend you wearing your uniform. People like to do it bc they want to be seen and try to get free stuff, which you probably will.

Response by MSgt Jesse Tiede made Nov 6 at 2019 7:50 PM

MSgt Jesse Tiede — Wed, 06 Nov 2019 19:50:09 -0500

Depends on what instructions your command put on your orders. Normally,. if you fly Military, you have to be in Class A's. Well, that was effective 25 years ago, when I retired. Probably has changed since then...

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 6 at 2019 8:25 PM

MAJ Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 06 Nov 2019 20:25:14 -0500

Ignore these ignorant idiots who tell you their opinions "boo hoo, you can't / you shouldn't" and listen to the REG. April 10, 2015 (4.5 years ago) the Army told you that you could travel in ACUs. Before that you could travel in Class-As. Forget these fools.
https://www.army.mil/article/146268/revised_uniform_policy_changes_rules_for_tattoos_wear_of_combat_uniform
Now, that's for official travel. Which a PCS is. You're not moving because YOU wanted to, you're moving as a part of your official duties as a Soldier.
On leave, vacation, around town, etc... yeah... don't be "that guy" who wears his uniform on his off day so don't be the "thank me for my service!" type

Revised uniform policy changes rules for tattoos, wear of combat uniform

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Response by SFC Ernest Thurston made Nov 7 at 2019 1:11 PM

SFC Ernest Thurston — Thu, 07 Nov 2019 13:11:30 -0500

I've gone through both stages of wearing my uniform in public. During the '70s stateside we tried to keep a low profile and didn't wear uniforms in public unless it was for some sort of duty. I had to wear a uniform at SF airport because I was working AWOL Apprehension, but I had a partner and we wore MP Brassards. Never had a problem. In Germany, the policy was to blend in as much as possible even to the point of not speaking English in public if you could avoid it. I was in Berlin during the '80s and wearing your uniform there was not a problem, in fact, if you were going to East Berlin it was required by law. Except for the first part of my career when I was stationed at the Presidio of San Francisco most of my duty stations have been GI friendly.

Response by CW2 Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 7 at 2019 1:33 PM

CW2 Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 07 Nov 2019 13:33:04 -0500

Dont be a target. Wear civvies.
Civvies includes not wearing 9Line, grunt style, Fort XXXX, or anything else that relates to the military.
You dont need a perfect high n tight, just regulation hair cut. You'd be surprise how non military you can look if you just try.
Now traveling CONUS, not really a problem, OCONUS for sure dont look the part AT ALL. AT level 1 covers this stuff.

Response by Maj Wayne Crist made Nov 7 at 2019 5:50 PM

Maj Wayne Crist — Thu, 07 Nov 2019 17:50:43 -0500

Southwest Airlines allows priority boarding for those in uniform.
I traveled thru the mid 70's, 80's and early 90's some times in uniform and some time in civvies. Had some bad experiences and more good ones. Several time my uniform got me upgrades I did not ask for. most bad experiences ended with people coming over and thanking me for my service. Do you have to be in uniform? No.

Response by Maj Wayne Crist made Nov 7 at 2019 5:51 PM

Maj Wayne Crist — Thu, 07 Nov 2019 17:51:43 -0500

I would not do it traveling overseas.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 8 at 2019 7:08 PM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 08 Nov 2019 19:08:10 -0500

I would never wear my uniform traveling. If you are traveling under orders just make sure your civilian attire is appropriate no booty shorts with your ass hanging or Gang Related Etc. If you wouldn't want your sergeant major to see you wearing it , don't.

Response by LT Michael Scott made Nov 9 at 2019 5:55 AM

LT Michael Scott — Sat, 09 Nov 2019 05:55:34 -0500

If at a military airfield you need to be in dress greens. If civilian then civilian clothes unless you haven't changed out. That's up to you. When traveling to and from a base you can be in uniform. When traveling on bases it had to be in uniform, when traveling by airports or bus stations then civilian clothes are appropriate. When traveling with a group of other soldiers then uniformity is important.

Response by SGT John Pearson made Nov 9 at 2019 10:29 PM

SGT John Pearson — Sat, 09 Nov 2019 22:29:03 -0500

We wore uniforms while traveling in the early 80's, I did it out of pride, but later on we were advised not to because a terrorist would pop a cap in you just because. Makes sense.

Response by MAJ James Woods made Nov 24 at 2019 8:11 PM

MAJ James Woods — Sun, 24 Nov 2019 20:11:09 -0500

You’re not supposed to be in uniform when you’re conducting PCS travel or any other travel that isn’t part of a unit specific mission movement on military sanctioned transport or your orders explicitly state to do so. Only one exception I can think of and that is your movement after graduation from Basic, OSUT, AIT to your next duty station; and even that is rare.

Response by 2LT Gerald Dominy made Nov 27 at 2019 12:18 PM

2LT Gerald Dominy — Wed, 27 Nov 2019 12:18:52 -0500

Simple thing here. Would you like to become a Target while walking around unarmed. Then go ahead and wear your uniform in a airport. Question 2 would you like to arrive alive at your next Duty station then don't wear the uniform until you get there. I would much rather be incognito and use my skills to take out a hostile threat than be a target because of the uniform. But if you do see someone who is not a veteran and has stolen valor..by all means use that poser for a body shield should trouble erupt..semper fi

Response by SFC Thomas Howes made Dec 5 at 2019 12:39 PM

SFC Thomas Howes — Thu, 05 Dec 2019 12:39:27 -0500

You have not had to travel in uniform in years last time I did was back in the late 70's early 80's

Response by PO1 DeWayne Smith made Jan 2 at 2020 8:04 AM

PO1 DeWayne Smith — Thu, 02 Jan 2020 08:04:22 -0500

Yes wear your uniform so it makes it easier for the open border terrorists to pick you out of the crowd

Response by SSG Omar Ruiz-Canales made Jan 7 at 2020 11:46 AM

SSG Omar Ruiz-Canales — Tue, 07 Jan 2020 11:46:12 -0500

This is notbthe 80's and before.. don't make yourself a terrorist target.. or even worse.. a social justice warrior target!!

Response by CPL Max Miranda made Jan 19 at 2020 11:04 AM

CPL Max Miranda — Sun, 19 Jan 2020 11:04:32 -0500

It's nice to travel in uniform, I got upgraded to 1st class once because I was traveling in my uniform, although if you think you're going tona dangerous place it is best best to travel in your civies

Response by SSG Ronalda Frank made Jan 23 at 2020 4:15 PM

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Response by SSgt Kenneth Cooper made Jan 24 at 2020 12:55 PM

SSgt Kenneth Cooper — Fri, 24 Jan 2020 12:55:09 -0500

In my time ( Korean War) the only airports I was exposed to were military. We traveled by train, IN UNIFORM. Usually alone with a fist full of orders peppered with acronyms you could hardly read. I was in the Air Force's Training Command in Special Services in Texas, and ordered to Korea, alone, just me. I found my way to California by train (and in uniform), then onto a troop ship packed with Army soldiers, headed for Korea. In Japan,being alone I got lost, because the MPs at the ship's gang plank, said, "Get on that train". Only Japanese was on that train. I rode for awhile. When it stopped, I could spot an American flag several blocks away. Grabbing my duffle bag I walked to that flag, which turned out to be an Army base. They read my orders, put me on a truck to a Tokyo train station, saying I would ride all night, then get off at such and such town in the southern part of Japan. Doing that and finding the Air Force processing center for Korea, and getting chewed out for being days late, they put me on a plane across the Sea of Japan to Tageu, then Seoul, then to the Top Secret Joint Operations Center (JOC) located on a Korean college campus being occupied by the Fifth Air Force and Eight Army Headquarters. I remained in JOC doing Top Secret stuff until the end of the war. The Air Force gave me the Army's Commendation Medal saying I did not have enough rank for the Bronze Star. I was just a Buck Sgt., but got Staff Sgt later and offered Master Sgt by a Major if I would re-enlist. I turned it down, replying that I intended to go to college (which I did on the GI Bill, getting a Bachelor of Science degree)

Response by SFC Robert Walton made Jan 25 at 2020 9:38 AM

SFC Robert Walton — Sat, 25 Jan 2020 09:38:52 -0500

WOW So How many times since Viet-Nam has American Military personnel been detained captured and question and released (by the evil).

Response by SGT Joseph Alanzo made Jan 25 at 2020 6:38 PM

SGT Joseph Alanzo — Sat, 25 Jan 2020 18:38:10 -0500

dod order all military personal don't go in uniform on travel only if it is required only

Response by SPC Robert Bobo made Jan 26 at 2020 8:09 PM

SPC Robert Bobo — Sun, 26 Jan 2020 20:09:22 -0500

Keep a low profile when traveling through public airports for your own safety although most respect the uniform, there are a number of sick people out there with an agenda, almost like a police officer traveling in uniform, my youngest doesn't even put his Detective business card on his luggage, if you want to greet your friends and relatives in uniform, through your class A's in a suit bag as carry on and put in restroom at your destination

Response by CW3 Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 28 at 2020 8:23 AM

CW3 Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 28 Jan 2020 08:23:36 -0500

Coming home after Iraq, I was in battle dress and could not buy a drink. People were polite and offering more drinks than I could handle on a layover. Was also able to use the VIP lounge and have snacks and drinks free. It's a shame our country cannot see the military traveling. They are already disconnected from us.

Response by Sgt Crusty Buck made Feb 23 at 2020 2:58 AM

Sgt Crusty Buck — Sun, 23 Feb 2020 02:58:12 -0500

Anytime you’re not on duty to include volunteer work where it’s mandated, PT, your daily work place, formal training, professional military training and other duty locations where uod is required; you should be in civics. Going to Macdonalds or some shit? Civies. BX/px after work? Go home shower civies. Pcsing with public private or even government transportation. Civies. Anyone who says or does otherwise has something loose or lacking up stairs.

Response by Lt Col Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 23 at 2020 7:42 AM

Lt Col Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 23 Feb 2020 07:42:02 -0500

The USAF has their policies codified in AFI 36-2903. BLUF - unless you have some intrinsic need to be thanked for your service, don't do it. There's no advantage to you - you'll be more comfortable and free to relax in civvies. Paragraph 1.3.1 says one may wear the uniform: "When traveling in an official capacity on commercial air, in Continental United States (to include Alaska and Hawaii), the service dress uniform (Class A), blue service uniform (Class B), ABU or OCP uniform may be worn, as appropriate. Wear of the flight duty uniform is not authorized." But paragraph 1.4.13. says "Air Force personnel may not wear their military uniforms when using frequent flyer miles to upgrade to business or first class. Thus, even when an upgrade to business or first class accommodations is legitimate, military personnel should not wear the uniform to avoid the public perception of misuse of government travel resources, which generates unnecessary complaints." Further, the guidance of our legal teams is that personnel may not even "accept complimentary reseating to business or first class while wearing their military uniform" for the same reasons.

Response by SPC Ted Heath made Feb 24 at 2020 12:33 PM

SPC Ted Heath — Mon, 24 Feb 2020 12:33:46 -0500

During my time in service, it was forbidden to travel in uniform unless it was a chartered mode of transportation for your entire unit. You weren’t even allowed to go to off post in uniform unless on duty. Only exception was to travel from post to home in your POV. Was a different time then.

Response by SSgt Daniel d'Errico made Feb 26 at 2020 8:26 PM

SSgt Daniel d'Errico — Wed, 26 Feb 2020 20:26:28 -0500

This question gets asked more than "What to do with a smart ass in formation". IF your orders state your travel requires you to be in uniform, then you wear your uniform.

Response by PO2 Jim Fine made Feb 27 at 2020 3:00 AM

PO2 Jim Fine — Thu, 27 Feb 2020 03:00:47 -0500

Granted it was 40 years ago but we always were ordered to PCS in dress blues. Or dress greens if FMF. Be proud show your pride. At least you won’t get spit on anymore.

Response by CWO2 Shelby DuBois made Feb 27 at 2020 10:21 AM

CWO2 Shelby DuBois — Thu, 27 Feb 2020 10:21:48 -0500

...when you're PCS's you're usually on leave anyway...until you check in...enjoy the ride and be comfortable.

Response by CPL John McCulley made Feb 28 at 2020 9:43 PM

CPL John McCulley — Fri, 28 Feb 2020 21:43:08 -0500

It's interesting how things change. When I was in the Army, '84 - '92, we were required to always travel in uniform when PCS'ing. I certainly understand the underlying train of thought now, but what I find most interesting is in the very beginning of my enlistment, while things had calmed down quite a bit from Vietnam, there were still some idiots that would harass servicemembers, esp. in uniform. Now, not only do I think that would be unusual, but there is much more, well deserved gratitude.

Response by SPC Ron Salsbury made Feb 29 at 2020 7:46 AM

SPC Ron Salsbury — Sat, 29 Feb 2020 07:46:50 -0500

PFC Casey, as the comments below are very good words of advise, our brothers and sisters who served during Vietnam, where shamefully disgraced by non-combatants back in the states when coming home. Know this little, brother you are surrounded by many of your brothers and sisters in arms, and if I see you in an airport, and someone ever makes a comment to you in the negative, rest assured big brother will step in and say something to have your back!!! "IGY6"

Response by PO3 Joseph Mcleod made Feb 29 at 2020 11:54 PM

PO3 Joseph Mcleod — Sat, 29 Feb 2020 23:54:51 -0500

You are authorized to wear civvies,and do not wear uniforms during over seas travel, but if reporting for duty at a new station, you need to report in uniform.

Response by Lt Col Charlie Brown made Mar 3 at 2020 7:48 AM

Lt Col Charlie Brown — Tue, 03 Mar 2020 07:48:48 -0500

Civies unless directed otherwise.

Response by SSG Fred White made Mar 4 at 2020 9:49 PM

SSG Fred White — Wed, 04 Mar 2020 21:49:14 -0500

When traveling on public transportation do not wear your uniform. You'll just make yourself a target for the loonies.

Response by MSG Chuck Pewsey made Mar 16 at 2020 3:28 AM

MSG Chuck Pewsey — Mon, 16 Mar 2020 03:28:22 -0400

Back in the day (70's) I traveled in Class A's to get military standby - half price. Then some aholes started hijacking airplanes. first to Cuba and then to less pleasant placed where one group murdered a Navy Seal. After that the requirement to wear the uniform to get the benefit went away, followed by the airline benefit. It used to be a requirement to wear Class A's when flying military charter on a PCS.

Response by CPO Gary Andrews made Mar 24 at 2020 7:05 PM

CPO Gary Andrews — Tue, 24 Mar 2020 19:05:12 -0400

I traveled via United air with a uniform on because I didn’t have time to change. The steward acted like an ass, and saluted me, and said some dumbass crap. Last time on United for me.

Response by MSgt Joseph Holness made Mar 30 at 2020 11:30 AM

MSgt Joseph Holness — Mon, 30 Mar 2020 11:30:55 -0400

OPSEC...Enough Said.

Response by SGT Charles Bartell made Mar 30 at 2020 2:56 PM

SGT Charles Bartell — Mon, 30 Mar 2020 14:56:33 -0400

You do not travel in uniform Unless you have order's requires you to do so.
Most of us stand out enough with out our uniforms on.
We are targeted just like police are.

Response by GySgt William Hardy made Apr 17 at 2020 12:44 PM

GySgt William Hardy — Fri, 17 Apr 2020 12:44:21 -0400

Read you orders. My orders have always stated when I was authorized to travel in civilian clothing. Given today's global politics, I would assume that everyone would travel in civilian clothing.

Response by SGT George Reimuth made Apr 17 at 2020 8:09 PM

SGT George Reimuth — Fri, 17 Apr 2020 20:09:31 -0400

Back I 179 when I enlisted in the regular army , I was headed for my overseas duty station in germany , that is a positive yes you must be in uniform when traveling it is declard in your orders.

Response by SGT Alfred Cox made Apr 19 at 2020 10:21 AM

SGT Alfred Cox — Sun, 19 Apr 2020 10:21:34 -0400

This just popped up in my email. I know it's a year old. From my experience. The short answer is no you do not have to be in uniform at the airport if you are pcs'ing. The more low key you are, the safer you are.

Response by PO3 Tammy McMullen made Apr 20 at 2020 5:23 AM

PO3 Tammy McMullen — Mon, 20 Apr 2020 05:23:22 -0400

NEVER WEAR UNIFORM IN OR AT AIRPORT UNLESS TOLD TO BY CO. !!!!!

Response by 1SG Donald Elmore made Apr 21 at 2020 2:38 PM

1SG Donald Elmore — Tue, 21 Apr 2020 14:38:43 -0400

1955 to 1975 I had to travel in Class A uniform while going from one duty station to another due to the fact I was traveling space available and I got priority as a soldier.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 21 at 2020 2:56 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 21 Apr 2020 14:56:40 -0400

Do not Do not travel in uniform. it's simple common sense don' do it. when i see private in uniforms at the airport two things come to mind failed leadership or pompous little prick. don't you ever do it unless you traveling to a mission with your team in a military vehicle ; therefore' there is no reason for you to be traveling on public transportation on uniform.

Response by SGT Louie Santana made Apr 21 at 2020 8:30 PM

SGT Louie Santana — Tue, 21 Apr 2020 20:30:09 -0400

Civies always more comfortable and the smarter choice. Idk if things changes in the last ten years. But that’s how we traveled.

Response by Sgt Leonard Lamb made Apr 21 at 2020 9:39 PM

Sgt Leonard Lamb — Tue, 21 Apr 2020 21:39:58 -0400

In 1967 I traveled by bus from Lackland AFB San Antonio Tx to Beale AFB. CA in my blues. It took 5 days and after one full day i began to smell. After 5 days I stunck. Most embarrassing trip I ever took.

Response by SPC Zoe Jane Halo made Apr 23 at 2020 3:42 AM

SPC Zoe Jane Halo — Thu, 23 Apr 2020 03:42:41 -0400

Look at the post website. Reception usually has instructions. When I pcs’d to Campbell in 2003 it was on the website to show up in bdu’s.

Response by SSG James Stodola made Apr 24 at 2020 10:55 AM

SSG James Stodola — Fri, 24 Apr 2020 10:55:16 -0400

Never, never, ever travel in uniform unless required to. If you are required to it will be on your travel orders. Safety is your first concern, as a military member you are to the enemy a "high value target", just as they are to us. Doing so would not only put you in unnecessary danger but also those around you as well. The only ones I know that travel in uniform anymore, and I am not completely sure on this are those on funeral escort detail.

Response by LCDR J H made Apr 24 at 2020 12:35 PM

LCDR J H — Fri, 24 Apr 2020 12:35:51 -0400

It depends upon your branch AND the Base Commander's orders -- sometimes they might conflict so it would be in your interest to verify the requirements at both bases.

Response by PO3 Jake Lucid made Apr 26 at 2020 1:47 PM

PO3 Jake Lucid — Sun, 26 Apr 2020 13:47:14 -0400

My how things have changed post 9/11. I wore my dress uniform when traveling. I was proud to wear it. I earned my uniform. I paid for it...money, sweat, blood, tears...etc. We were cautioned to be wary even then..but there was no outright rule against. Some commands would say don't do it...and we'd see those same Yahoo's wearing their officer dress uniforms when they travelled. Ask your command.

Response by CAPT Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 26 at 2020 6:16 PM

CAPT Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 26 Apr 2020 18:16:17 -0400

Disregard comments. Ask your chain of command, always. Also, it is probably in your orders.

Response by CPL Steve Freeman made May 6 at 2020 8:24 AM

CPL Steve Freeman — Wed, 06 May 2020 08:24:07 -0400

Thats a question you should be asking your chain of command.

Response by SGT Samuel Reed made May 7 at 2020 11:09 PM

SGT Samuel Reed — Thu, 07 May 2020 23:09:19 -0400

If you’re traveling through Europe and don’t need to be in dress/duty uniform, wear your civilian clothes. Today the less attention is best. Back in the 80’s we were proud to travel in dress. Today, you need to be careful.

Response by SPC Troy Shelby made May 8 at 2020 10:56 AM

SPC Troy Shelby — Fri, 08 May 2020 10:56:01 -0400

Have to agree with the SFC here with terroristic risks always present it is advised never to travel in uniform unless ordered to (which is unlikely to happen) Traveling in Uniform paints you as a target for any would-be terrorist 95% of the time when traveling pcs u are technically off duty till you report in at your new station so being in uniform during this time simply creates a danger to you and the civilian passengers on board.

Response by MSgt Jerry Waters made May 16 at 2020 11:24 PM

MSgt Jerry Waters — Sat, 16 May 2020 23:24:54 -0400

civies all the way. Dress for comfort, nothing tacky

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made May 26 at 2020 2:40 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 26 May 2020 14:40:59 -0400

AR 670-1, para 3-7
a. All personnel will wear an Army uniform when on duty, unless granted an exception by the commander to wear
civilian clothes. The following personnel may grant exceptions:
(1) Commanders of ACOMs/ASCCs/DRUs.
(2) The Secretary of Defense or designee, the Secretary of the Army, or the Assistant Secretaries of the Army.
(3) Heads of Department of Defense (DOD) agencies.
(4) Heads of DA Staff agencies or HQDA principal officials.
b. Personnel traveling on Air Mobility Command and non-Air Mobility Command flights on permanent change of
station orders, temporary duty (TDY), emergency leave, or space-available flights are authorized to wear civilian clothes.
Personnel must ensure that the clothing worn is appropriate for the occasion and reflects positively on the Army. (See
DODD 4500.54E for information concerning mandatory wear of civilian clothing in foreign countries. The individual’s
travel orders will reflect information authorizing wear of civilian clothing.)

There are other security regulations that also cover this put out by DoD. Sorry answer is you can but you shouldn't for security. Exceptions to this are when traveling from basic to AIT and AIT to first duty station depending on the installation you are leaving. You also see supposed to report in uniform to be duty stations.

Response by Sgt Private RallyPoint Member made May 27 at 2020 7:31 PM

Sgt Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 27 May 2020 19:31:14 -0400

Do what you want. This is the new army

Response by Sgt Michael Cortes made May 28 at 2020 9:46 AM

Sgt Michael Cortes — Thu, 28 May 2020 09:46:58 -0400

Late 80s & early 90s, the Marine Corps expected you to report in your Service Alphas. Sounds like that has changed according to many of these answers.

Response by CPL Greg Patterson made May 28 at 2020 11:30 PM

CPL Greg Patterson — Thu, 28 May 2020 23:30:10 -0400

I remember in the good old days you were required to wear a uniform when pcsing.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made May 29 at 2020 6:35 AM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 29 May 2020 06:35:45 -0400

Depends on leadership and your orders. They will brief you about it when they are going over your orders. But 9 times out of 10. No.

Response by COL John Power made May 29 at 2020 3:32 PM

COL John Power — Fri, 29 May 2020 15:32:39 -0400

There is probably no particularly good reason to do PCS travel in uniform. If the orders require it on a contract flight, unit move or military aircraft, OK. But generally it isn't necessary. But I will say I have traveled in uniform both on PCS and TDY many times. On MAC flights it was required and coming out of Nam I had nothing else to wear even flying in the US after arriving back. Never had a problem. Have had first class upgrades offered (field grade officers can't take them and I traded seats with enlisted troops on the flights) and I still use my ID through TSA and to get priority boarding. I've traveled all over the world over the last 50+ years, probably more than most people of any stripe and never have had a problem. I was proud to serve and still. Never had any BS from anyone and doubt that many would present a problem today. Probably a lot of "thank you for your service" and a free drink or two. But if you don't like that stuff then avoid it.

Response by SCPO Melvin Burt made May 31 at 2020 3:04 PM

SCPO Melvin Burt — Sun, 31 May 2020 15:04:21 -0400

Overseas travel is one thing but in the states of course wear your uniform. I have been retired longer than most of you are old but pride in the uniform is something we always lived with. Hell, l can remember when we were first allowed to travel to and from work to home in work cloths as long as we did not stop anywhere. That was then and this is now but you get the respect that you command. If you are ashamed of the uniform no one else is going to respect it.

Response by SGT David Greth made May 31 at 2020 3:47 PM

SGT David Greth — Sun, 31 May 2020 15:47:51 -0400

In the "old days" you had to be on orders to travel in civilian clothes. I always had "Cat-Z" orders myself.

Response by SGT Duane Wilson made Jun 1 at 2020 3:45 PM

SGT Duane Wilson — Mon, 01 Jun 2020 15:45:29 -0400

Read orders, it's there.

Response by PO1 Todd Walters made Jun 5 at 2020 9:20 AM

PO1 Todd Walters — Fri, 05 Jun 2020 09:20:57 -0400

Its not like when i was a young Sailor. Traveling back then, in uniform, was great. Not a bunch of terrorists out to get you or anarchist ls. Do not travel in uniform. In the Navy orders would tell you to or not. Dont know about other services

Response by SPC Andrew Murray made Jun 7 at 2020 3:33 PM

SPC Andrew Murray — Sun, 07 Jun 2020 15:33:38 -0400

In the 80s there was a navy diver who was killed by terrorists on a plane because they considered him a threat due to him being in the navy. Opsec should always be the name of the game where ever you are.

Response by SSgt Brenda Langea made Jun 16 at 2020 8:49 PM

SSgt Brenda Langea — Tue, 16 Jun 2020 20:49:30 -0400

Civvies should always be worn on any civilian flight.

Response by CSM Donald McGlasson made Jun 25 at 2020 8:49 AM

CSM Donald McGlasson — Thu, 25 Jun 2020 08:49:53 -0400

Let me say this about that.... those who say NEVER or DON'T wear your uniform when PCSing need to go find another occupation. Of course you are not required and it is not the most common or comfortable way to travel but if you wish to wear the most distinguished set of clothing you probably own, do it. I truly enjoy and appreciate the opportunity to talk with a person in uniform, especially sitting in an airport.

Response by CSM Donald McGlasson made Jun 25 at 2020 8:52 AM

CSM Donald McGlasson — Thu, 25 Jun 2020 08:52:56 -0400

Of course I was speaking of the wearing of a Dress uniform, NOT Duty uniform.

Response by 2ndLt Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 8 at 2020 11:51 PM

2ndLt Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 08 Jul 2020 23:51:07 -0400

You wear Class A's or ASU to report into the new command, change prior to entry into the building but do not wear it while traveling.

Response by SFC James Himes made Jul 19 at 2020 11:57 AM

SFC James Himes — Sun, 19 Jul 2020 11:57:46 -0400

My son is currently active duty Marine and due to current social unrest they have been instructed to travel to duty office in civies and only change into uniform at the office. (He is stationed at Great Lakes Navel Station) So when he leaves the base (he lives off base but also travels alot for his duties) he is in civies.

Response by Robyn Morrow made Aug 25 at 2020 1:43 PM

Robyn Morrow — Tue, 25 Aug 2020 13:43:42 -0400

Do not wear your uniform while pcs’ing
It makes you a target.

Response by SSgt Daniel d'Errico made Aug 26 at 2020 2:39 PM

SSgt Daniel d'Errico — Wed, 26 Aug 2020 14:39:59 -0400

Your travel orders will specify what you will need to wear for your flight. I was in MAC (Military Airlift Command) for a number of years. We handled both straight military and civilian contract flights. I would often gets orders that read "wear of civilian clothing authorized for flight." But that was on the contracted flights. Military flights (military aircraft and civilian contracted flights) would always require military uniforms (dress or duty). But again, read your travel orders to confirm everything. Now, when will some one ask a question about alcoholic drinking on contracted flights?

Response by PO2 Mike Vignapiano made Aug 27 at 2020 9:44 AM

PO2 Mike Vignapiano — Thu, 27 Aug 2020 09:44:16 -0400

This is a question you should’ve asked when you picked up your orders. Travel overseas you definitely DO NOT. Traveling in the States, it depends based on where.

Response by PO2 Matthew Stacy made Aug 27 at 2020 4:14 PM

PO2 Matthew Stacy — Thu, 27 Aug 2020 16:14:32 -0400

Unless you are under orders to, don't travel in uniform. Some people may have once be extra nice to you, but that is likely not the case anymore. Further you don't want one more thing drawing to yourself. There are people out there that will want to harm or murder you just for being a service member. There are some people that mistakely think all services know or have access all classified intelligence, information, or resources and would try to get you to give them to unauthorized people. There are some people that might try kidnap you for ransom. There are some people that would just try to be annoying or confrontational to you because of your service affiliation. Sometimes you could dirty your uniform when traveling. In short unless you are under orders, (or not worried out breaking that specific order) don't pcs or travel in uniform except maybe between your duty station and where you are being quartered. If you orders on paper don't say, and chain of command didn't say assume you are authorized to wear civilian clothed. Better to for forgiveness then permission. They will almost always default to requiring you to wear a uniform, probably your dress uniform if you ask.

Response by GySgt Angelo Rue made Aug 27 at 2020 9:11 PM

GySgt Angelo Rue — Thu, 27 Aug 2020 21:11:55 -0400

You are authorized appropriate civilian attire while traveling. Don't wear your uniform in a civilian airport. Don't make yourself a target.

Response by SFC William Ramsey made Aug 28 at 2020 2:17 PM

SFC William Ramsey — Fri, 28 Aug 2020 14:17:01 -0400

Exactly what SFC Boyd said, DO NOT Travel in uniform (Exceptions Apply) Addendum to that would to be sure that you have a uniform in your carry on, as sometimes luggage gets lost and its better to have a uniform with you an not need it than need it and not have it when you arrive at your new duty station. Generally if you see personnel in Uniform in the Airport they are returning from or going to RR Leave from theater. If they are in their dress uniform they are more than likely on official duty, and more than likely escorting one of our fallen brethren home.

Response by SPC Steven Nihipali made Aug 31 at 2020 2:05 AM

SPC Steven Nihipali — Mon, 31 Aug 2020 02:05:47 -0400

I traveled all over the US in uniform... my MOS required it. My unit would all be sitting at the gate, sleeping everyone, holding walls up, etc. Cincinnati airport was the worst. Denver wasn't so bad. If you so do choose to bring the light on you, be aware that you're going to get hate... macho's are gonna call you out, stolen valor, etc, you're gonna get challenged by anti-military but also stopped by those who wanna thank you. Bring no attention to yourself... that's all I'm saying

Response by Sgt Pete Kondrosky made Aug 31 at 2020 1:53 PM

Sgt Pete Kondrosky — Mon, 31 Aug 2020 13:53:23 -0400

OK...
I was USAF 12/1964-10/1967 stateside...10/1967-10/1968 S.E. Asia (then my DD-214).
During that time, stateside... I always traveled military standby...paying 1/2 price through the base travel office because I couldn't AFFORD a full price 'regular/coach' airline ticket.
By doing so, I was REQUIRED to wear my USAF class 'A' uniform...'blues' in the fall/winter, and 1505's in the warmer spring and summer.
My one and only time (as I recall) of command 'suggesting' that we wear civvies when traveling was when I arrived back in the states from S.E. Asia, at Travis AFB, CA, 10/1968, and as the group of us got our DD-214's, again, it was strongly suggested...wear civvies, though our haircuts gave us away anyhow.
VERY unfriendly civilians out there...back THEN.
In my mid-70's now, looking back on that ENTIRE era, it's hard to believe how much SHIT we DID put up with as GI's, no matter WHERE we were stationed, or if we WENT to S.E. Asia...or NOT!
My wife is ALSO former USAF, a former WAF (we met at McChord AFB, WA in 9/1966), and she put up with the same shit, to whatever extent.
We married 11/2/1968, and still are...yep...going on 52 years of marriage.
Back THEN...you wore a uniform..you were considered lower than dog shit, and as most of DID back then, I received the same 'reception' as most of us did...called 'baby killer' and others. egged, spit on, refused a seat on a bus (and I hadn't even gone OVER yet...SO MUCH.
The whole 'wearing of the uniform thing'...today...seems to be MUCH better received by civilians NOW...than it was back then...MY observation.
People thanking THIS generation of military too...NOW...in public, at airports, in daily life, as it SHOULD be...BOTH men AND Lady Warriors

Response by SSG Eric Blue made Sep 3 at 2020 2:41 PM

SSG Eric Blue — Thu, 03 Sep 2020 14:41:15 -0400

Unless your orders state that you must travel in uniform, DON'T DO IT! Too many people out here trying to harass, intimidate, kidnap, or kill American service people!

Response by SSG Michael Love made Sep 23 at 2020 5:17 PM

SSG Michael Love — Wed, 23 Sep 2020 17:17:44 -0400

There was an incident where a plane was taken over, they went to the register and picked two or three Sailors. One was killed and thrown on the tarmac. I was trained to pick a window seat because you could not be jerked out of your seat. If trouble started you could slide your I D card down the gap between the window and frame. If I am in an air port, am I suppose to run if trouble starts. I do not run from trouble but to it. No matter what I am wearing.

Response by CW3 Kevin Storm made Sep 24 at 2020 11:40 AM

CW3 Kevin Storm — Thu, 24 Sep 2020 11:40:13 -0400

What do your orders say? If they say in uniform, then you are going in uniform.

Response by Sgt Ken Prescott made Sep 24 at 2020 11:40 AM

Sgt Ken Prescott — Thu, 24 Sep 2020 11:40:48 -0400

Be the Gray Man. Blend in, do not call attention to yourself. Simple, tasteful civilian attire; polo shirt and slacks, no messages or indicators on you or your bags, casual shoes. Be quiet, be purposeful but relaxed in demeanor and movement.

All of the people demanding that you wear the uniform are ignoring your personal security. There are crazy people out there, and they're being encouraged to attack anything that smacks of authority.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 25 at 2020 8:03 AM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 25 Sep 2020 08:03:39 -0400

You should always fly in civies unless directed. I flew my wife up for a long weekend to see me and while on the plane she sat next to a soldier in uniform who was traveling on vacation with his girlfriend. He told her that he was hoping to get bumped to first class. What a douche. But I like to play spot the soldier at the airport even in civies they give away they are military by what they wear and their choice in backpacks with patches all over it.

Response by PFC Larry Cunningham made Sep 25 at 2020 8:00 PM

PFC Larry Cunningham — Fri, 25 Sep 2020 20:00:54 -0400

It's funny how in the 80s we were required to fly in uniform when we were on the government dime.

Response by PFC Robert Shafer made Sep 26 at 2020 2:00 PM

PFC Robert Shafer — Sat, 26 Sep 2020 14:00:24 -0400

Do not travel in Uniform. Remember your OPSEC training. You being in uniform puts a target on your back and anyone traveling with you. You being military is or should already be in your flight packet. Dress nice but with NO military insignia or identifiers

Response by Sgt John Mizell made Sep 28 at 2020 12:46 AM

Sgt John Mizell — Mon, 28 Sep 2020 00:46:47 -0400

wanted to delete but could not

Response by SSG Marshall Paul made Oct 30 at 2020 12:18 AM

SSG Marshall Paul — Fri, 30 Oct 2020 00:18:00 -0400

Times change, doesn't appear that we are winning.

Response by SGT Aaron Flowers made Nov 3 at 2020 4:07 PM

SGT Aaron Flowers — Tue, 03 Nov 2020 16:07:49 -0500

Jesus I see you got the correct answer by now. Lol I saw this question and my eyes almost popped out of my head. If you're new to the military any question is a good question. Most of the time. But ya don't ever travel in uniform unless it's required. You just draw unwanted attention to yourself. It can actually put you at risk to be a target or victim. Plus if you want to grab a drink or idk act a fool you don't want to do that in uniform either. With a proper haircut and the way you carry yourself most people will be able to tell you're military. So don't worry about not catching a cute girls attention. If you're a dude that is or well anyways. Take care.

Response by SSG Shawn Mcfadden made Nov 3 at 2020 10:10 PM

SSG Shawn Mcfadden — Tue, 03 Nov 2020 22:10:35 -0500

Back in 1988, I had to be in Class A uniform when I went to Germany for my first duty station. A lot of things might have changed since then.

Response by PO2 Lawrence Janiec made Nov 6 at 2020 10:31 AM

PO2 Lawrence Janiec — Fri, 06 Nov 2020 10:31:24 -0500

When I was on Active Duty in the 90s, it was sort of being phased out back then, but with today's world you really shouldn't. If memory serves, it was required when I graduated boot camp traveling home on leave and then it was required when reporting to A school and then when I reported to my first command (I caught the ship in Bahrain) they told us NOT to wear them, but otherwise it was sort of optional but people always said it was tradition and I always did it. Even when I had to report to my second ship in Guam. When dress blues were the UotD. Yeah, good times.

Response by SGT Cody Collins made Nov 6 at 2020 2:43 PM

SGT Cody Collins — Fri, 06 Nov 2020 14:43:58 -0500

Got treated the best when I wore the uniform when traveling. Got bumped up in line a bunch of times, people insisting to pay for my meal or asking me if I need anything. More upside than down I think.

Response by PO2 Tom Jackson made Nov 7 at 2020 12:44 AM

PO2 Tom Jackson — Sat, 07 Nov 2020 00:44:16 -0500

I would ask your supervisor that is giving you the orders to PCS, personally.
There's going to be times you don't have a choice - you're told to show up in a certain uniform (usually dress) and shipped out by bus to the airport, like happened to me on graduation day from bootcamp. Other times, you have transition leave you are taking and then you may/may not need to show up in uniform. When I showed up to check in onboard my ship after transitioning from school, I arrived the Sunday night before the Monday morning I was supposed to be there, and I did it in civvies. I figured, if they had a problem with that, I could always say I was technically still on leave until 7 a.m. that morning :) . Good luck.

Response by SFC Tim OReilly made Nov 8 at 2020 7:20 AM

SFC Tim OReilly — Sun, 08 Nov 2020 07:20:27 -0500

A bit of history ... in a land not so far away , but some time ago, service men and women were expected to travel in their class As. Then things changed, something to do with bags of piss or blood and rioting... so to avoid that we started to travel in our civvies ... due to certain terrorist attacks we also started to use passports for individuals traveling overseas instead of mil ID and orders. The latter are still necessary, but only shown to those authorized. Your travel orders will often state what uniform or civvies, if authorized pov etc.

Response by PFC Jeremy McGill made Nov 8 at 2020 2:26 PM

PFC Jeremy McGill — Sun, 08 Nov 2020 14:26:03 -0500

Absolutely not.

Response by PO1 Charles Coffee made Nov 8 at 2020 5:52 PM

PO1 Charles Coffee — Sun, 08 Nov 2020 17:52:44 -0500

And never travel in your PT gear!

Response by Lt Col John (Jack) Christensen made Nov 8 at 2020 6:44 PM

Lt Col John (Jack) Christensen — Sun, 08 Nov 2020 18:44:54 -0500

I'm not aware of any requirement to travel in uniform.

Response by SSG Harry Outcalt made Nov 9 at 2020 7:46 AM

SSG Harry Outcalt — Mon, 09 Nov 2020 07:46:18 -0500

Your PCS orders should say whether Military class type uniform should be worn, back in the day only Special Operations Soldiers were authorized to travel in civies...
Travel outside the U.S. and it's territories , for military personnel has changed a lot in the last 40 years...

Response by SSgt Kory Hessling made Nov 9 at 2020 10:46 AM

SSgt Kory Hessling — Mon, 09 Nov 2020 10:46:13 -0500

911 changed all that. If memory serves, that is what ended any travel in uniform on pretty much any mode of transportation, especially international travel.

Response by SPC David Cooper made Nov 10 at 2020 5:59 AM

SPC David Cooper — Tue, 10 Nov 2020 05:59:00 -0500

Someone hasnt read the soldiers handbook

Response by Jason Boughter made Nov 10 at 2020 7:38 PM

Jason Boughter — Tue, 10 Nov 2020 19:38:02 -0500

Everybody else is right. If you are traveling in uniform you WILL be singled out by the public.

I am a civilian Police Officer that never had the nuts to enlist, which I’ll regret for the rest of my days.

I always get to the airport two allow time to check my carry gun and get sexually assaulted by TSA.

This usually gives me an hour or so to kill and I’ll frequently then wander around the airport looking for a uniformed service member to randomly approach and invite to dinner / drinks (no homo).

I’m a control freak who hates flying, and hates flying completely sober even more, so finding a service member in uniform means they eat and drink for free, I’m not lonely / have interesting conversation with dinner, and if the POS plane I’m flying on augers into the ground later, at least I can meet my maker with some good karma.

Seriously though, theres still decent people out there and I’d bet that there are still more civilians willing to level a turd that messes with a uniformed service member than their are turds willing to mess with one.

Response by SPC Miguel Rosario Cruz made Nov 10 at 2020 8:06 PM

SPC Miguel Rosario Cruz — Tue, 10 Nov 2020 20:06:50 -0500

No you don't have to be in uniform

Response by PO3 Dale Olson made Nov 11 at 2020 12:51 PM

PO3 Dale Olson — Wed, 11 Nov 2020 12:51:44 -0500

Back in the day 60 to 64... maybe. But, passed that NFW.

Response by SGT Keith Smith made Dec 21 at 2020 8:46 AM

SGT Keith Smith — Mon, 21 Dec 2020 08:46:20 -0500

Personnel traveling on Air Mobility Command and non-Air Mobility Command flights on permanent change of station orders, temporary duty (TDY), emergency leave, or space-available flights are authorized to wear civilian clothes. Personnel must ensure that the clothing worn is appropriate for the occasion and reflects positively on the Army. (See DODD 4500.54E for information concerning mandatory wear of civilian clothing in foreign countries. The individual’s travel orders will reflect information authorizing wear of civilian clothing.)

The real answer is find it, read it, and understand it. This way when you are stopped and questioned by a superior, you can answer in a concise manner and politely tell them where you found the information. Just remember no one likes to be told they are wrong.

Response by Cpl Mark Oresko made Dec 28 at 2020 3:10 AM

Cpl Mark Oresko — Mon, 28 Dec 2020 03:10:25 -0500

This always comes up. I’m only gonna give you my experience though. I was told not to travel wearing your uniform for all good reasons, but unless you’re rich and have fancy luggage you are more than likely going to be walking around wearing your Sea Bag like a backpack and everyone is going to know that you’re military. That was me back in the day, and we all see it today. I had my uniform rolled tightly and stuffed into my carry-on, everything else was at the top of my Sea Bag to be accessible. Two lance corporals greet us with a short bus for the ride to base. They were screaming and yelling because we weren’t in uniform. We all got dressed in route but by the time I looked back I could see all the other dudes had their underwear, toothbrushes, stamp cases rolling across the floor of the bus because they didn’t pack their bags properly. So in my opinion, get yourself a little rolling luggage and have your stuff ready for a quick restroom switcharoo.

Response by PO2 Michael Henry made Jan 10 at 2021 12:50 PM

PO2 Michael Henry — Sun, 10 Jan 2021 12:50:45 -0500

I was told when going from Great Lakes to Virginia Beach, that I was to wear my Dress Blues. How fun that was when our first plane was delayed, the connecting flight left without us AND we had to stay behind in the airport overnight. Our civilian attire was packed. It was at night the next day when we got there. We could have drove and made better time.

Response by SGT Michael Paul made Jan 10 at 2021 9:39 PM

SGT Michael Paul — Sun, 10 Jan 2021 21:39:15 -0500

Going overseas you have to be in civilian clothes

Response by CPL Christopher Thomas made Jan 21 at 2021 8:58 AM

CPL Christopher Thomas — Thu, 21 Jan 2021 08:58:08 -0500

Travel in your civies unless directed to wear a uniform while traveling.

Response by SSG James N. made Jan 21 at 2021 9:31 AM

SSG James N. — Thu, 21 Jan 2021 09:31:32 -0500

Many have stated the correct 'uniform' for PCS here. If the unit is moving, it is the duty uniform. If you are in dress uniform, the military moves you by bus you are in what they send you in.
If you purchased tickets through the contractor, put that uniform in its bag, and get comfy, Texas, you know it's t shirt or button down and boots with that big buckle and hat. Washington and Oregon, all black antifa style with your backpack and ear buds. California, loose baggy non binary clothing that really showcases your pronouns!

Response by SGT Nathan Hanna made Jan 22 at 2021 9:41 AM

SGT Nathan Hanna — Fri, 22 Jan 2021 09:41:26 -0500

It is best only to wear your uniform as directed. DO NOT WEAR IT FOR PCS MOVES!!!! The Army in Europe is not allowed to wear their uniforms off post. This may have relaxed a bit but this stems from the shooting at the Frankfurt airport back in 2011. You never know who is targeting you. Is the free upgrade of seating worth the shot in the face? Unless ordered to travel in uniform do not do it.

Response by PO2 Lon Hebert made Jan 23 at 2021 12:56 PM

PO2 Lon Hebert — Sat, 23 Jan 2021 12:56:25 -0500

when I was in the air force and navy you had to be in uniform to travel PCS going over seas or coming back but that was in the 70's and 80's. but in 91 I had to take emergency leave due to my stepmother was dyeing. so I flew in civilian clothes

Response by CWO4 Tim Hecht made Jan 24 at 2021 6:26 PM

CWO4 Tim Hecht — Sun, 24 Jan 2021 18:26:43 -0500

Unless your orders specifically so “you must wear your uniform while traveling” or say “do not wear your your uniform” the choice is yours.

My Active duty military service ran from 28 July 1970 through 1 June 2001 with a short period in inactive duty. Even during Vietnam I took pride and wore my uniform when flying. I’ve been bumped to 1st Class, given free drinks during flights, and one time even the phone number of a very attractive flight attendant - she was very nice!

I live in San Antonio - “Military City, USA” - and often see military travelers in uniform. Rarely (never today) have I seen nor heard of someone being spit on or called “baby killer” like happened to others during Vietnam.

I am still proud of my military service; to wear your uniform or civvies (unless ordered) is your choice. If you do wear it, look like a Recruiting Poster; because you may be one of few examples of what a member of the Armed Forces look like.

The Coast Guard has a Duty Station in Turkey in the 1970s - 1980s. Civvies on duty, no mention of specific branches of service; nor mention of the Coast Guard in the mailing address. It was abbreviated as TUSLOG Det. #. AKA Turkish US Logistics Detatchment. A LORAN Station.

Response by HA Jace Gallagher made Feb 15 at 2021 9:34 AM

HA Jace Gallagher — Mon, 15 Feb 2021 09:34:27 -0500

Travel in civvies. You make yourself an easy target when in uniform and airports, train and bus stations are choice terrorist targets.

Response by SSG Bobby Richardson made Feb 16 at 2021 12:06 PM

SSG Bobby Richardson — Tue, 16 Feb 2021 12:06:03 -0500

When I was active the only time in-uniform travel was *required* was when flying Space Available on a military transport.

Response by SPC Kenneth James made Feb 19 at 2021 10:21 PM

SPC Kenneth James — Fri, 19 Feb 2021 22:21:35 -0500

Things really have changed hasn't it I remember and this most likely don't go with what you are asking but anyway we had to leave basic training in our class A uniform the only thing I remember every one saying was don't put rank on that was not what we earned a few knuckleheads wanted to buy rank when of course we only had mosquito wings lol

Response by SGM Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 13 at 2021 12:32 PM

SGM Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 13 Mar 2021 12:32:17 -0500

"Reporting in uniform" is not the same as "traveling in uniform". The special instructions portion of your orders will spell that out unless it's on it's own line item.