Do I rate the 1st Marine Divison combat patch for being deployed to Djibouti for ten days and in CENTCOM for several months at sea?
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<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I deployed go Djibouti for ten days but was in centcom for several months at sea supporting operations. Do i rate the 1st marine divison patch and can i wear it on my uniform scince i renlisted in the army national guard?Mon, 30 Sep 2019 16:19:54 -0400Do I rate the 1st Marine Divison combat patch for being deployed to Djibouti for ten days and in CENTCOM for several months at sea?
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<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I deployed go Djibouti for ten days but was in centcom for several months at sea supporting operations. Do i rate the 1st marine divison patch and can i wear it on my uniform scince i renlisted in the army national guard?Cpl Private RallyPoint MemberMon, 30 Sep 2019 16:19:54 -04002019-09-30T16:19:54-04:00Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 30 at 2019 4:38 PM
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<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>AR 670-1, Section 19-17:<br /><br />19–17. Shoulder sleeve insignia–former wartime service<br />a. General. Authorization to wear a SSI indicating former wartime service (FWTS) (SSI–FWTS) applies only to Soldiers who are/were assigned to U.S. Army units that meet the following criteria in subparagraph (1), below:<br />(1) The following criteria are required for wear of the SSI–FWTS:<br />(a) The Secretary of the Army or higher must declare the theater or area of operation as a hostile environment to which the unit is assigned or Congress must pass a Declaration of War.<br />(b) The units must have actively participated in or supported ground combat operations against hostile forces in which they were exposed to the threat of enemy action or fire, either directly or indirectly.<br />(c) The military operation normally must have lasted for a period of 30 days or longer. An exception may be made when U.S. Army forces are engaged with a hostile force for a shorter period of time, when they meet all other criteria, and a recommendation from the general or flag officer in command is forwarded to the Chief of Staff, Army.<br />(d) The Chief of Staff, Army must approve the authorization for wearing the SSI–FWTS.<br />Note. Units are not authorized to modify their SSI or SSI–FWTS without prior approval from the DCS, G–1. A mirror image SSI–FWTS is considered a modification. In addition, TIOH must approve the design of any modification and authorize its manufacturing in accordance with paragraph 2–3.<br />(2) Personnel who served in a designated area as a civilian or a member of another Service, but were not a member of the U.S. Army during one of the specified periods are not authorized to wear the SSI–FWT<br /><br />Pay particular attention to the last bullet. Even if you were in Djibouti supporting an Operation that warrants an SSi-FWTS, but were with the Marines at the time, then you do NOT rate being allowed to wear it.MSG Private RallyPoint MemberMon, 30 Sep 2019 16:38:47 -04002019-09-30T16:38:47-04:00Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 30 at 2019 4:46 PM
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<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>No, you cannot.SSG Private RallyPoint MemberMon, 30 Sep 2019 16:46:05 -04002019-09-30T16:46:05-04:00Response by SFC Michael Hasbun made Sep 30 at 2019 4:54 PM
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<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>No. You must be a SOLDIER at the time of the deployment to rate a combat patch... Deployments with other branches DO...NOT....COUNTSFC Michael HasbunMon, 30 Sep 2019 16:54:14 -04002019-09-30T16:54:14-04:00Response by CPT Andrew Wright made Sep 30 at 2019 4:54 PM
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<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Officially no. Marines do not wear a patch and Army logic (and regulations) are that former Marines are not entitled to wear one for their wartime service, however, soldiers who served under Marine units and authorized by their command may be authorized to wear them. My National Guard unit was authorized the 1st Marine Division patch for serving at Al Assad Air Base, Iraq during the surge.CPT Andrew WrightMon, 30 Sep 2019 16:54:31 -04002019-09-30T16:54:31-04:00Response by SSgt Dan Montague made Sep 30 at 2019 10:20 PM
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<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>There is no "combat patches" for the Marines. The unit patches are not authorized for wear on any uniform.SSgt Dan MontagueMon, 30 Sep 2019 22:20:13 -04002019-09-30T22:20:13-04:00Response by CW2 Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 16 at 2019 3:14 PM
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<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>It's an issue seen across the Army. Former Marines want to wear the patch because some sew shop makes em, but they aren't authorized at all (one or two exceptions - WWII and I think 1 small group during OIF I). Any on the spot corrections starts an argument and even if they give in, as soon as they are out of sight they will put it back on. Don't wear it, be proud of what you did, you don't need a piece of fabric to remind you, the Army/Guard hand out badges and awards like candy, you'll have plenty soon enough.CW2 Private RallyPoint MemberWed, 16 Oct 2019 15:14:11 -04002019-10-16T15:14:11-04:002019-09-30T16:19:54-04:00