Do people treat you differently when they find out you have PTSD?

2015-06-09T02:26:18-04:00

From friend/normal to crazy with 4 little letters? Do your civilian friends treat you differently when they find out you have PTSD? I find that when I am upset or justifiably angry my friends or family whisper "she has PTSD" like its some justification as to why I am upset or mad. I can no longer just have a bad day. I am currently in school and during my psychology class today the instructor asked me if I have PTSD and how I deal with it. I am the only veteran in class and was kind of embarrassed to be put on the spot but I was honest and said yes. I explained that I deal with it and that most of them would not even notice if I was having a moment. The next 20 minutes was cross talk of horror stories about people they heard about with PTSD. I tried to explain that not every with PTSD is how the media portrays it and that their are degrees of PTSD but it was like I never even spoke. One girl even asked me if I was safe to be around or if I would just snap someday. I don't know how to react to all of this. What do I say? Yes I have issues but I am not crazy.

Response by PO1 John Miller made Jun 9 at 2015 2:44 AM

2015-06-09T02:44:03-04:00

The sarcastic side of me would say to your fellow student: "Why don't you try pissing me off and see if I snap?"

The rational side of me would talk to your professor in private and express how you feel and request that they drop any further discussions of PTSD.

You should also consider filing a formal complaint if these "discussions" persist.

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 9 at 2015 7:34 AM

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SGT Alicia Brenneis, I think it absolutely atrocious that your professor would put you on the spot like that without at least discussing it with you first. An introduction should have shaped the discussion into a more positive, informative one as well.
What you do next could make or break you. I suggest that you explain in detail how this came to be a part of your life and what causes it to manifest. Describe how a sound or smell causes the involuntary reactions we all know of, how you deal with it, and how you have found that you can continue facing the challenges of life and overcoming them.
People fear what they don't understand. They need to see you as a real person who could be them, but for the grace of God, and that life goes on. You can't win them all, but I think you'd find that the tenor of the conversation becomes less hostile and more understanding.

Like college is supposed to be.
Good luck.

Response by SGT Alexander Hildenbrandt made Jun 9 at 2015 10:12 AM

2015-06-09T10:12:35-04:00

Sense you are in psychology, you might take note that the girl who asked you the blatant question is trying to be an attention grabber by calling you out. She tries to get under your skin so best thing is to not let her. Not let anybody. They do not no what it is like and some of them probably just curious as it is a psychology class are genuinely interested.

Maybe this might help: psychological response; Have you ever had a traumatic experience in your life where you cried or got mad to the point where you had a physical reaction like punching a wall or storming off. Now amplify those feelings and emotions to the point where you cannot escape what makes those feelings intense. In some cases the feelings were so intense for so long that you become numb to what makes many cringe. Now add the fact you remember whatever happened on repeat like a broken record and you don't have any idea what will trigger those thoughts. Can you manage it? Yes. Does it make you a threat? No. You are still you and continue living the best way you know how.

Keep calm and compassionate demeanor in your response even though that might not be whats running through your head after the (insert vulgarity here) got done speaking. speak from an educators standpoint and you will earn respect.

I have allot more to say on it because I have been faced with the same situation a couple times and learned from different reactions. If you don't want to open up that is cool. Just tell the professor in front of the class I don't dignify questions like that and will not participate if I am going to be berated. He or she has no ability to say otherwise. Answer what you feel comfortable answering.

There have been circumstances where I don't feel comfortable sharing because I don't feel a non-veteran has the right to know. You can imagine the response from a class who have a very different opinion on their rights to information. You want to start a debate, do that! I was just toying with them. I personally do feel people who have not experienced what goes on as a soldier have the right to know or judge what happens during armed conflict. It does start some shit though.

rant complete. Good Luck

Response by SFC William Swartz Jr made Jun 9 at 2015 10:17 AM

2015-06-09T10:17:51-04:00

Only when I lick the occasional window do I draw any different treatment from those I come in contact with!!

Response by PO1 Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 9 at 2015 10:44 AM

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Unfortunately, like you stated many are ignorant on the subject and do not truly understand nor at times do I think they WANT too. I personally do not have PTSD but I see this happen to my friends that do all the time. The most important thing to remember is that you are not alone. There are many that struggle with this every day. One of my dearest friends (Marine vet) and I have discussed this at length. Anytime I get frustrated with ignorant people, I just watch this video and feel so much better: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0_qzlk5Bjs

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Response by SGT Kevin Brown made Jun 9 at 2015 11:16 AM

2015-06-09T11:16:02-04:00

Absolutely. I used to enjoy wearing "Veteran" apparel and showing my pride for my service. More often then not it changed peoples demeanors around me, making me feel uncomfortable. I had been asked on numerous occasions if I have PTSD because I am a veteran. I don't tell those who ask this often, but the shitty thing is I do. Having PTSD has changed my friendship circles dramatically over the last decade. Some people try to be understanding and supportive, but without realizing that is not what I am looking for. Others stop calling or get scared when you are around. The worst is being a firearms instructor who carries and someone learns you have PTSD.....they always feel the need to ask if I should really have a gun or if others are safe around me because of the PTSD. I retire in 3 days. I will be growing a long ass beard, changing my wardrobe and trying to change some of my mannerisms just to avoid shit like this. It is bad enough suffering from PTSD, dealing with societies stigma is the kick in the balls when your already down.

On the flip side, when I don't feel that the person is afraid or attacking me I am happy to explain to them what PTSD really is and take the time to squash rumors and stigma. If it is someone I care for I do the same.

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 9 at 2015 11:19 AM

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I HATE how psychology classes are constantly interrupted by random, unintelligent, uninformed cross-talk. HATE IT. Am I insensitive to their experiences? Perhaps some.

But on to OP: When I find out a person has PTSD, I find myself more informed. And I do behave differently around that person. When that person gets angry or despondent, I stop looking for 'reason' and I start looking for 'triggers'. This helps me interact more effectively with this person. We, as a team, avoid triggers, or prepare ourselves. This is a tactic I learned while interacting with my wife, who I learned has been diagnosed with PTSD.

Most uninformed disrespectful people will treat you disrespectfully, like you're some kind of ward escapee. But there are some out there you want to work with you and respect you. They might even be able to help you. I guess what I'm trying to get at is that the people in your class were a-holes, but don't always be afraid to share yourself with others.

Am I too far off topic, here?

Response by MAJ Ken Landgren made Jun 9 at 2015 2:35 PM

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The professor is an idiot. Your medical conditions should be private, hence, he should have asked you to get permission to discuss your PTSD. I know you were rolling with the punches, but next time tell them you don't feel comfortable discussing it.

Response by SPC Jan Allbright, M.Sc., R.S. made Jun 9 at 2015 5:50 PM

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I would NEVER tell a civilian about PTSD.
I mentioned that I was a Vietnam Head Injury once and you should have seen the white space opened up around me!

Response by SSgt Leslie "Clay" Cooper made Jun 10 at 2015 12:28 PM

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It's bad enough being Military, civilian world wants no part of you.....

Response by SSgt Leslie "Clay" Cooper made Jun 10 at 2015 12:31 PM

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I don't have PTSD but I do own a medical billing service which puts me into the loop and a few months ago one of our Brothers was in jail for 30ish days without being charged who had PTSD. Law Enforcement including the Prosecutor had no clue how to deal with this and the VA Hospital had no idea how to deal with this situation either. Thanks to Steve Isaacson he got it resolved. When it comes to PTSD does a Service Member call out for help knowing there may be severe repercussions in doing so including loss of rights, privileges and treated like a criminal?

Response by SGT Timothy Byrd made Jun 10 at 2015 1:20 PM

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Yes it's like I have the plague.

Response by LCpl Douglas Whittington made Jun 10 at 2015 1:46 PM

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Yes they act like your crazy. Or you're an old idiot.

Response by CMSgt Mark Schubert made Jun 10 at 2015 1:56 PM

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I think you are doing a GREAT job! Just answer the questions openly and honestly - and - with every question, it will get easier. Not sure how long it's been since you were diagnosed with PTSD, but my guess is that immediately after, you may have felt overwhelmed, confused and withdrawn - and you might imagine you would have had a much different reaction than you do today! Those are typical reactions and with determination and acquired coping skills, you CAN manage to control your emotions and remain stable. I encourage you to continue to seek help and remember that most people are ignorant (uninformed) to anything that has to do with PTSD - especially interacting with someone they KNOW has PTSD!

Press on and my prayers are with you! Thank you for your service!!!

Response by SGT Ryan Leach made Jun 10 at 2015 2:01 PM

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Yeah, I know when I was in college and someone called my girlfriend a bitch and a went off on him. He sat there and tried to say that I was "going all PTSD on him". Last time I checked any time someone calls your significant other something like that you will normally go off on them.

Response by SGT Loren Hammons made Jun 10 at 2015 2:04 PM

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Some do, but I do not tell most people they just see me acting different. I am trying to be more social and get out more, but I am a loner most of the time.

Response by PO2 Kevin O'Connor made Jun 10 at 2015 2:26 PM

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I would have to say yes to this question. But in a positive way. When I was medically retired at 19 years in the late 90s I tried really hard to not let people know about my PTSD. It seamed back then all they could think about was the stories from the 80s of the very few vets that went "postal" But in the past 10 to 15 years there has been so much publication and information put out about PTSD that today when people find out about me they still pause, but then have questions and are interested in learning or doing what they can to help with any interactions that I may be needing. I don't have to worry about "losing it" since my VA shrink keeps telling me I have too much military discipline in to loose control. But it helps a lot to see the change of perception in the public mind about PTSD, and to see it discussed in main stream news, and TV shows are even doing great stories about PTSD. Man not that is a bit of a ramble, but that's me.

Response by SGT Toby Vado made Jun 10 at 2015 2:40 PM

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Yes. Recently I went to jail for hitting someone who spit on me on purpose. The person came at me flailing around their arms and hands like they were going to hit me and in the process purposely spit in my face. I snapped for the first time in 20 years. Does it make me dangerous? No. I deal with it every day and I'm always mild mannered and calm. The prosecutor threw it out because I do have PTSD. Thank God. Go figure. I'm crazy because I do and not because I do.

Response by Pvt Bill Oneilkl made Jun 10 at 2015 2:59 PM

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I've been dealing with this question since 1971. Of course PTSD was not a recognized disease then. I refused to believe I had PTSD until 1986 when I took out a couple of inmates at the federal jail in Manhattan. I left, decided to check into East Orange VA and before I got there, took on a gang of four or five street punks looking to for a fight. Most of them ended up on the deck. I was taken to the carrier deck, and the Doc on duty said I had severe PTSD. Even today, I have a very short fuse, and VA rated me totally disabled from PTSD and Agent Orange related injuries. It's probably why I seldom go anywhere. I can snap very easily. But now not the raving lunatic type. Deadly calm. It scares my kids sometimes. I particularly don't give a damn whatever the rest of society thinks. They can all kiss my ass! What I discovered when I acknowledge PTSD is people don't bother me.
What concerns me is the current generation of service members, who include two nephews. You are being labeled with the same brand the pukes of the political elite.

Response by PO2 Kevin O'Connor made Jun 10 at 2015 3:01 PM

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I've read a lot of comments. The other comments only re-enforce my original thoughts on PTSD. The more it is talked about and the more education the general public gets the better it will be for those who suffer from PTSD. I've also read a lot of news stories and posts on other Vets sites stating that a lot of states are doing what they can to help. First off in MN we have a pretty great VA Hospital and the shrinks are top notch. The state also has started, like a number of other states have, to set up Veterans Courts through out the whole justice system, from simple traffic court to criminal courts. This is set up to help the Vet before court, during court, and in case of sentencing, help with confinement issues and the such. Talk to people who ask about PTSD, speak clearly and plainly, and educate. Everyone benefits.

Response by SGT(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 10 at 2015 3:10 PM

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SGT Alicia Brenneis even though I don't know any body with PTSD, is kind of sad the portrait the media make of them. In the TrueBlood series, there was a character with PTSD and was always treated like "crazy". The "demons of war", as they called them in the series, were inside of him making him do things nobody would understand. Sometimes they treated him like a "war hero" and sometimes they just called him "crazy".

Response by A1C Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 10 at 2015 3:46 PM

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My husband goes through this everyday with everyone he is surrounded by including medical professionals at a base with PTSD "specialists". By no means is what you are going through something to be taken so lightly or used as an excuse for why you are upset. Prior who have not gone through these experiences have a difficult time understanding what PTSD really is so they will treat as if it were a true menace to society. There's a social worker I work with very closely and she gave me a book to help me better understand what my husband is going through and what I can do to help him, funny enough I have been doing what the book asks we do for our veterans before even reading it. "When Johnny and Jane Come Marching Home" by Paula Caplan, maybe this will help your situation as well. I wish you the best of luck in your future.

Response by SPC Scott Sheesley made Jun 10 at 2015 4:17 PM

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It's my personal experience that only those that are uneducated about ptsd tend to be he one that treat you different by asking stupid questions and making inappropriate comments.

Response by CPO Ed Ball made Jun 10 at 2015 4:20 PM

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As a County Veterans Service Officer, as mentioned PTSD comes in various stages based upon the DSM IV/V and the GAF scores appropriately assigned to the individual case. Being diagnosed with PTSD first and foremost is nothing to be ashamed of. The courage and strength to tell your story when in an appropriate setting has proven very beneficial in my case. (After 20 1/2 yrs of service witnessing an oak tree fall and kill my father from about 4ft away.)

Until those lacking knowledge obtain a greater understanding of PTSD and its impact on a case by case basis, they will continue to be inquisitive. Perhaps rudely at first, but simply turn, put on your educator's cap, and share the knowledge.

What worked for me; 1. Faith in my God and a true understanding what happens to us once we die based on that faith. 2. God is in control and does provide peace. 3. Testimony; getting up in front of others and tell your story. I cried my eyes out the first several times I shared the story, but it became easier. (Now the only times my eyes leak is when I visit him in the cemetery ~ I miss him so.)

No mind altering drugs, no mental health appointments, just dealing with the problem head on and processing the event. Took me three months of isolating my spouse, child and other family members, lots of sleepless nights for fear of shutting my eyes and witnessing the event as if it were happening all over again, anger issues, but I eventually came around, and went back to work. Now filing successful VA disability claims for fellow veterans suffering with PTSD for the last 15 years.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 10 at 2015 4:29 PM

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Yes. Particularly in the law enforcement arena.

Response by TSgt Jason Thompson made Jun 10 at 2015 4:35 PM

2015-06-10T16:35:22-04:00

Your experience as far as public reaction is exactly why I don't share anything about my personal medical or psychological history unless they are there to treat said issues. Not even in a "higher education" class.

Explanations provided are reserved for close friends and family only.

Everybody else can continue to consume Fox News and CNN for their view points, I have a hard enough time with things without trying to change ignorance.

Response by SGT Fredrick Ramm made Jun 10 at 2015 4:53 PM

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First off, my PTSD, is not what most think it is. It's a long story, I ETSed when I was 20, and a Sergeant E-5, in 1972...and I was NOT in country Vietnam, but, some thing snapped 4 years later. Had a private hypnotherapist pull me out of it, because I heard all kinds of horror stories (reputation, VA wards, drugs, etc)! Had a relapse, of "what ever" 30 years later Two years ago, I was diagnosed with PTSD by a Veterans Affairs Psychologist. What ever happen in The Old 4th Armored Division, it's some thing, I don't think any one will understand, despite a son of a famous General almost resigned his commission over and my former CO almost calling my unit a dumping ground, on an internet interview. But to this day, what really think was part of my problem was: "1972 was not 1945"!!!

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 10 at 2015 4:54 PM

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I usually don't mention it however I advocate for Veteran issues when I post things on my own personal facebook. I've even told my facebook friends if they don't like it they can adjust their settings not to see the post or unfriend me, no harm no foul. I won't even ask why, I will leave it up to them if they want to stay in contact. If they don't, oh well, not my issue.

I have a few friends that understand PTSD from traumatic experiences they have endured. They at least get it, as where some don't. Portrayal of Veterans/Service members in the media as gun nuts, psychopathic ticking time bombs doesn't help matters. Earlier in in the news an Airman shot himself after shooting two others at a Walmart, one of the reporters asked it was done with a military weapon. This is how the media portrays us and how the public perceives us. Now, does every civilian think this way? maybe not the ones that seem somewhat educated on the subject or took time to speak to Vets. The sheeple on the other hand, like the student mentioned above, well there's no helping them, they seemed to have made up their minds no matter how much info you put in front of them.

Does it seem I'm a little harsh on the student, yes, probably because she said something not so smart IMHO. Those type of people I don't waste my time on, to be honest IDGAF about people like that. If I was in that class I would have said something that might have made her think twice about how stupid she sounded. If I can't kill you with kindness I sure as hell will with a few choice words, I'll make your world feel incredibly small.

Response by SSG John M Jacobson Sr made Jun 10 at 2015 5:08 PM

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People have always treated me like I was nuts or something. But I do know that my biggest battle is with myself. So when people act like I am crazy I just go along with it, because I don't have to worry about anyone trying to start a fight with me or anything because they think I might go off and they might get shoot. But all of us that know the symptoms of PTSD know that we can handle ourselves just fine. I have my days when I don't want to be around anyone, and I have my days when I just don't talk to anyone. But I have my own little get away spot where I can deal with my issues, and my wife understands that I sometimes need that. Hell she has put up with my sorry ass for 41 years. She is a strong woman and went threw my whole military career with me. For better or for worst and she has seen it all with me. What more could a man ask for.

Response by SSG John Salazar made Jun 10 at 2015 5:09 PM

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Continue to maintain, your doing good.."CM"

Response by A1C Charles Hagen made Jun 10 at 2015 5:51 PM

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yes, they do. Some of the time. However, most of the time they just don't give a damn.

Response by SGT Edward Perez made Jun 10 at 2015 6:16 PM

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Sgt Brenneis. I to along with many others have PTSD and i do take meds to control all that comes with it. Sister if your on meds don't stop them. I did one time and i ended up in a 72 hr observation for suicide. You are no danger to anyone that girl is a putz for saying or asking that crap. The teacher well, if your not ready to talk to civies be careful that teacher may not like you for just the sheer fact you are prior service. And people like that like to embarrass you. There are different classes you can take for free at the VA or a Vet Center closest to you. You dont have to explain yourself to no man for why you have PTSD. Period. Infact invite your class to your VA's hospital, challenge THEM to learn about PTSD or get to know someone with it. Its not a STD, You cant transfer your experiences. Wish you well, and good luck with the ignorant.

Response by LCpl James Robertson made Jun 10 at 2015 6:18 PM

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The Instructor should have never asked that question, you are protected by the Hippa Law, but its up to you if you want to reveal your medical conditions. Let me tell you, I have seen many veterans that have PTSD, but I have acted like I didn't know. During the Vietnam war, certain veterans were know as "Shell Shot" many of them didn't even get any treatment, I've seen Marines in the Squad Bay, cry and holler all night, fighting a war in there head, but would not seek treatment. Continue to seek treatment, but don't discuss this with civilians they will not understand you, and the name callings will start and bad rumors.

Response by SGT Kristjan Rahe made Jun 10 at 2015 6:44 PM

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I cannot answer for myself as I am not officially diagnosed as the VA and I are still doing the tango, but my wife is official. The answer is yes and no. Some speak really slow and quiet as if you will climb a clock tower any moment. It is those that should know better, doctors and such that are rude, dismissive and belittling. I recall the old Hawaii 5-0 episodes where almost every bad guy was a Vietnam vet with "flashbacks " and Hollywood is doing this today on many of the crime dramas. We still have a long way to go. Politically we have had DHS secretary Napalotano refer to vets as a threat, the anti gun crowd wanting to deny weapons to PTSD sufferers. We have a way to go

Response by CDR Michael Goldschmidt made Jun 10 at 2015 6:44 PM

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Mostly, they don't find out, unless they're VERY close friends or other vets, usually those also with PTSD.

Response by SSgt Liam Babington made Jun 10 at 2015 7:43 PM

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Personally i have not except in one occasion ever had anyone ask me about ptsd..that the college professor even ask you a question like that shows his vulgarity and limitless behavior. I would have told him off after class and refeted him to the local VA to better understand the issue

Response by SCPO Chuck Vroman Sr. made Jun 10 at 2015 7:50 PM

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If they continue to ignore your initial response and ask stupid questions like: "are you safe to be around?", here would be my suggested response to these people.

First, become extremely calm and quiet. Do not attempt to speak until everyone else has gone silent.

Upon achieving their silent attention, inform them that, Yes, you could very well be a danger to any and all who refuse to listen to your description of your condition and trigger. Additionally, inform them that your condition has made you exceptionally sensitive to stupidity, and that can make you not very safe to be around.

Response by FN Michael Byrnes made Jun 10 at 2015 8:07 PM

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Situations like that is why I never tell anyone I have it. Then again I'm never in any types of those situations. I have no friends because I don't trust anyone. I do my best to limit the amount of time I'm out in public. I can barely stand to be around my dogs let alone people I don't know. It's because of the way uneducated people act that I do things like this. When I worked for about 9 years between to companies owned by the same people I came away with not a single friend when I left. No one ever stayed in touch with me. I tried to keep in touch but when I realized none of the people I thought were friends ever contacted me I quit trying. I was told a couple of times that I scared people though none of those people could explain to me why. I never threatened anyone and at 39 I've yet to be in any major physical altercations yet me just being myself frightened some people. So it all seems like a waste of time to put myself out there if knowing people for such a long time only leads to finding out that you're of no meaning to them whatsoever. I guess at times I have felt alone but I'm never disappointed with someone letting me down or judging me. Your teacher obviously needs to educate themselves as well as the rest of the students about PTSD because if they had they never would've put you on the spot but since they did they should've enlightened the other students about the people who deal with it on a daily basis. We're not monsters.

Response by PO1 Aaron Baltosser made Jun 10 at 2015 8:09 PM

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I find no trouble there, but that is because I don't choose to mention it. How it might turn out otherwise I don't know. I hear folks talk about the diagnosis when i'm out in public. Many express the opinion nobody with PTSD should have the right to own any firearms. That may be why I keep quiet about it. I like collecting things with different calibers and history.

Response by PO2 Christopher A. made Jun 10 at 2015 8:42 PM

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Yes...mostly blank stares and disbelief.

Response by Sgt John H. made Jun 10 at 2015 8:56 PM

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Not sure it was ethical for the professor to ask the question. But it happened to me years ago. I took it up with the Dean. 95 percent of people will treat you like you have a disease. I just accept it and only talk about it to those qualified for the discussion.

Response by PO3 Rod Arnold made Jun 10 at 2015 9:15 PM

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I'm a Vietnam Vet. so we were pretty much treated like crap when we got home, and PTSD, or Shell Shock back than, was treated like it was a concussion!!! I don't talk much to civilians about war because they just don't understand.

I pray God blesses you in your life's journey. Thank you for your service!!!

HT2 Rod Arnold

Response by 2LT Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 10 at 2015 9:16 PM

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Coming from a fellow Psych major, your professor is definitely in the wrong by using you as an example. There really isn't much you can do now that what's done is done, but I suggest you tell your professor in person or write in their course eval how their actions are wrong and how they can fix that.

Response by TSgt Susan Bernarducci made Jun 10 at 2015 9:36 PM

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Personally I feel it is just a lack of knowledge. You can even have PTSD and never been in the military. Keep doing what you are doing with dealing with the PTSD and try to remember there are people who have no clue and do not want to learn, really. Your instructor should never have pointed you out asking if you have PTSD. She should have asked someone else or not even have gone there.

Response by PO2 Miguel De Leon made Jun 10 at 2015 9:52 PM

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From experience yes people do treat you different when they find out you have PTSD!! You become an easy target to be blamed for other peoples issues and problems. You are also looked at as a crazy person or walking time bomb because people them selves cant seem to relate or understand what you are going through, or even care to try and understand you. People are so quick to judge and point fingers but are not willing to really try and understand and help us and really try and understand.

Response by SGT Ronald Audas made Jun 10 at 2015 10:05 PM

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I have spent almost 50 years without revealing my PTSD to anyone but my wife and of course the VA.For a professor to single me out,after I have made great strides, could have triggered a negative reaction from me.Hopefully he realized that he was out of line.If it does occur again,state emphatically that you will not be joining todays discussion.and don`t.

Response by SGT Landon Dupee made Jun 10 at 2015 10:49 PM

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Yea its almost like they start to walk on egg shells. Almost like their afraid I'm gonna freak out over nothing

Response by SGT Paul Sparks made Jun 10 at 2015 10:59 PM

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They do treat me differently, and it has almost cost me 2 jobs. When something would set me off or I would get angry, they were always going to HR and complaining and saying they are scared of me because I have PTSD, which my boss who is a Persian Gulf vet mentioned to my former co workers. I even had my HR director tell me I am a trained killer and she has to watch out for the other employee's. I finally had enough of the toxic environment and I quit a rather good paying job. I have learned to just shrug and mention that someone with post partum depression or something like that is more likely to go off than someone with PTSD. Now I am careful about what I say and who I say stuff to, unless it is talking about how I deal with it when asked about it.

Response by SSG James Courtney made Jun 10 at 2015 11:02 PM

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Give your professor a book on PTSD, then kick him in the nuts, keep a friends list so you can fuck them over later, they are all in the same profession! Family well backyard ass kicking! Bad advice, but he has no business asking questions like that, ask him if he ever heard of HIPAA! Then give a sticker Freedom is not free!

Response by SSG (ret) William Martin made Jun 10 at 2015 11:13 PM

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I haven't been diagnosed with PTSD but myself and others suspect I have it. People need to be educated about PTSD including service members and anyone who was in the military. PTSD only received attention because of the two wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. Service members not the only ones who can be diagnosed with PTSD as I am sure some people know this. If I had a subordinate who had PTSD I would like to speak to him or her to find out what sets them off so to speak so I can address those issues. I am not going to be some insensitive leader who says, "suck it up butter cup" because that is not leadership; that is being an A-hole. People who discriminate against SMs who have PTSD are ignorant and need to be educated.

Response by SSgt James Guy made Jun 10 at 2015 11:18 PM

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The only one who thinks I am crazy is my wife. Most people do not know and unless I know them well, I don't tell them.

sometimes they find out that I am a little jumpy if they try to scare me or sneak up on me from behind.

Response by SGT Brenden Lee made Jun 10 at 2015 11:32 PM

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SGT Alicia Brenneis, in reference to your question regarding PTSD. I have suffered from PTSD since childhood. I dealt with it throughout my time in the military and throughout my entire adult life. I have had some "friends" who have freaked out when I mentioned I have PTSD and they seem to melt into the crowd as if I may stab them or something. But for the most part I just tell them the truth...I let them know the cause of my PTSD, what I do to calm myself when I feel the warning signs and I also share the warning signs that they can look out for so they can help me through it. I have a number of issues, which I won't air out here, but I know there are many Veterans who have different episodes than I have simply for different reasons. In my opinion, if you have friends who look at you differently, in a negative way, perhaps they aren't meant to be your friend. You need positive people on your side. And, I held this till the end, your "professor" had absolutely not business telling anyone about your PTSD. That is tantamount to having a therapist allow others' access to your records. It was unprofessional and I would have no reservations, whatsoever, approaching the professor and giving them a few choice words. I wish you the best and I hope you find your true friends.

Response by PO2 Brandon Amacker made Jun 11 at 2015 12:02 AM

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Absolutely! That's why I don't share that information unless it's completely necessary. My wife and kids know and understand what I go through, but they also know how we get stereotyped as "crazy" by people that have no concept.

Response by SGT Keith Boettcher made Jun 11 at 2015 12:41 AM

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Yep!
Ain't fair. So, I don't get out. I spend 99.9% of my time in my home sleeping
and watching TV or scanning my emails and Facebook.
Only time I do get out is to go to my MD and VA appts.

Response by SPC Theresa Pierce made Jun 11 at 2015 12:42 AM

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Need to know is how I would prob cope with it if I had it. People, especially people not associated with military life, will react the way you describe above. I would find some polite way to not have to reveal your medical condition. After all, your medical information is considered to be confidential. Maybe something along the lines of not all soldiers experience PTSD because not all soldiers are exposed to or subject to hazardous situations. And there are many different levels of PTSD from mild to severe. Your psychology instructor was unprofessional in putting you on the spot like that. He should have been sensitive to your uniform and service - and if he was going to do that should have consulted with you first so you would have been prepared to handle the questions and comments that followed. It was, in my opinion, downright unethical of him to have done that to you. There was no way to handle that properly... if you said, "no" you're lying - and if you said, "yes" then you get that stupid remark of, "are they safe around you." I'm really sorry you had to go through that. It was disrespectful and insensitive of them.

Response by COL Charles Williams made Jun 11 at 2015 1:19 AM

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SGT Alicia Brenneis Excellent Questions. I would say it all depends. If you are dealing with a military crowd, I would say it is different, and most understand. But, I also know, many believe PTSD is sign of weakness, even in the military. I would say most decide to keep this on the down-low, so they are not judged. That is, we need to be selective in who we really trust.

In the civilian world, where I am now, I would say most folks believe that if you have PTSD you could and will go crazy in the workplace, and so you are hence dangerous....

Now, understand, this is not what I believe, but what I think others believe in and out of the military. I have a Masters in Counseling Psychology and am working on my PhD, so I kinda understood/understand PTSD. I also was on the ground floor of the Army's Suicide prevention efforts and Resiliency Program too. Finally, I have TBI and PTSD....

Response by CPL Jay Freeman made Jun 11 at 2015 2:07 AM

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I would be lie in if I said no but yes they do. When asked about the ptsd I say most people have some sort of it and some reaction to there own. When you where a kid and your dad used a belt on your ass and the way he would crack it together and now your ass gets that warm feeling even tho you know you are not going to get hit. It's like that or I pick some kind of way for them to relate like tiger words ice cream what are you thinking of and they tell me so then I tell them about my ptsd once they can find a way to relate granted eating ice cream isn't tromatic to most but you taste buds start to work and you think of your favorite flavor. Then they ask me about my ptsd. I tell them I have the best type of them all and this is why I'm retired and try to stay away from the major population mine is deadly and can last up to 10 minutes. I am a combat vet I took my job seriously and did not li k e the idea of hand to hand combat so I paid attention I n class and learned to do it to the best I could do I had friends teach me and took it to the deadly level I am not afraid to use anything I can get my hands on to remove a life after all I want to make it home to my family more then the other guy and as long as I win I can prove it time and again.
I react violently when a ptsd trigger happens and I have learned to slow my reaction time a Lil and judge weather someone is trying to harm me or they are just playing. As for the teacher or anyone putting a person on the spot we have trained for this the military from day one was training us to train others and to take every advantage of a teach able moment take hold of it and use it to have them understand us and not fear us all. Yes it sucks sometimes to have to educate people but with out it people fear what they don't know.

Response by CPL Jay Freeman made Jun 11 at 2015 2:26 AM

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Short response. You are a veteran and I would probably say like most a proud one. Civilians think all vets have ptsd. So you are in a class discussion and I assume you have told people in the class you are a vet. A person maybe even thinking you are a personable person who wouldn't mind talking about issues he has a person who specializes in the subject of emotional stress and has used you for a teaching aid the military teaches us from day one to teach others. Where you cought off guard yes could he have gone a better way about it yes but this presentation was the best he has had not saying it was right but it was a chance if used constructively to teach people who fear all of us when it should only be a few of us

Response by MSgt Thomas Gentile made Jun 11 at 2015 3:22 AM

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most definately

Response by SFC Timothy Pitre made Jun 11 at 2015 5:29 AM

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I know exactly how you feel. There's days I control it. Then there's days it controls me. I think I have the worst PTSD. Mine comes from troubled childhood,Veteran,and from losing a child. These lasts three years I cut myself off from just about everyone. It's to much,there's to much anger. I keep telling the VA there's not enough pills to deal with all of this. Lol but I keep going , all I can say is hang in there. And that you are not alone. Iam with you! Welcome Home Sister!

Response by CPT Bruce Rodgers made Jun 11 at 2015 5:43 AM

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Get over the PTSD thing

Response by SPC Sr. Ivan Seeker made Jun 11 at 2015 6:25 AM

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Y es they do ppl are ignorent idiots.

Response by SPC Joseph Durham made Jun 11 at 2015 8:18 AM

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As a disabled veteran, I find that if I announce that I am disabled, I get treated differently. Sometimes tragically differently. But I come to realize it's not my fault that I am disabled. It's not the other person's fault that they treat me differently either. People just don't like to be around somebody that is different. Do you like to be associated with kids who don't know how to pull up their pants? Or how about somebody that went way overboard with body piercings? Maybe even tattoo man/woman who define themselves by their tattoo's? We are all afraid of something that's different.

I find that it is in my best interest to show people that I'm a good guy. That I'm not broken beyond repair. I might need my time alone once in a while to regroup. But I am still me. Things in my life have changed. But change is a necessary part of growth for everybody including me. What it comes down to is: Do I wear my disability as a badge of honor? Do I hide it from everybody trying to be normal? Or do I just get on with my life and live it to the best of my abilities? People will either like me or they won't. That's their problem, not mine. I will be friendly to everybody I meet, and that's all I can do.

Response by LCpl Michael Carter made Jun 11 at 2015 8:45 AM

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For the most part my friends have not known me without PTSD. Most of them don't know I have it. I've been managing for over a decade, I have ups and downs. I only tell the closest of my friends because I know them well enough to trust them with my secrets they are true friends, love me for who I am and become part of my network of people I can talk to if I am having issues that day. Some of them also have it as well and I have become part of their network. We have to take care of each other, the pills thrown at us by doctors don't cure it. There is no cure but time and good friends sure help the road to coping with it.

Response by Cpl Ray Frigerio made Jun 11 at 2015 9:01 AM

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I thing some think I do ( have PTSD ) because I have a quick temper etc. But I truly do not, Desert Storm was hardly a stressful event ,especially compared to some peoples experiences.

Response by PO1 Robert Gasser made Jun 11 at 2015 10:20 AM

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Yes I definitely get treated differently almost like they are afraid of what might happen. But I am usually an easy guy to get along with. although I do see myself being a little hyper vigilant at times and a little pushy.

Response by LCpl Allen Sjoberg made Jun 11 at 2015 11:00 AM

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Everyone deals with this their own way, my only advise is share with who YOU want only what YOU want to . Stay strong know that your never alone and we all stand with you. As far as the learned professor.... I would go to him privately and tell him you don't like being pointed out for a medical condition, and if he needs clarification refer him to the federal law that protects your privacy. :) have a great day and stay strong

Response by PO1 Peggy Weldon Perales made Jun 11 at 2015 11:53 AM

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Yes, People treat me different also. To the point that I just don't tell anyone. I limit my exposure to people and stressful situations, managed to complete my BA and Masters programs on line so I didn't get triggered, and had a job (until the government budget cuts) that I was able to perform well and without problems. People don't understand the struggle and aren't willing to help you out when you have trouble with a situation. I know that doesn't help you , but know that you are not along.
Peggy Perales, USN (Ret)

Response by SSgt Stevan Auldridge made Jun 11 at 2015 12:40 PM

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The difficulty with PTSD is the wide range emotions with variable severities. One person could feel guilt, might dwell on it from time to time. Another could have depression to the point of contemplating suicide. Another could feel rage and be homicidal. There is no one answer. You would have to take it case by case and hope the person suffering is honest with you and themselves about how they feel and what they think. That last part, in my opinion, is the true complication.

Response by SGT Craig Northacker made Jun 11 at 2015 1:22 PM

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PTSD is something that we simply have to learn to control. I find that I am not a great fit in my neighborhood, because a lot of folks do not have similar experiences, or because of the stratification of the mindset of veterans from various conflicts. In college I simply turned my chair sideways. (I came out after Viet Nam). Knowing that you can have various escape routes, or that you can give yourself permission to remove yourself from the discussions if they are getting to you - especially the stupid parts, is a good way of keeping a relief valve in your pocket. I am a guy, and I can only just begin to imagine the additional stigmas for women. I eventually found some folks that I could be around. There were times I was honestly extremely upset with people, and asked them to just back off and let me be. Your responsibility is to you - not to them. Take care of yourself - sometimes a good look is worth more than all the words. Lincoln, I believed, offered up the bit about being silent is a good way to look wise, so if you get exasperated with the conversation, excuse yourself, leave the room for the ladies room, etc, and give them time to get it out of their system. Another time I was in a leadership position at a small church, and the minister was accused by a number of women of inappropriate behavior. His supporters stalked the women, made thousands of calls, and did other stupid stuff. I was fed up with it, and one day before a meeting I stopped at a watering hole (which I never do), and had a couple of beers to make sure the alcohol was apparent, and walked into the meeting, flipped my Death From Above baseball cap in front of one of the guys being sneaky and gutless, and sat down next to him, exclaiming, "God, I miss killing sometimes". He got the message - so I was able to turn what he perceived as a threat into a tool to help protect the women. Turns out this was the 3rd church the minister played that same game...And 4th of July can just be plain tough. We are different, and once we accept it and get past it life gets much better. Good luck, Alicia, and if you ever need or want to chat, I am the old guy. Make sure you are good to yourself - you are owed that much. And, by the way, there are times I still struggle with it - the sooner you are able to gather tools to help, the better off you will be as you journey through life.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 11 at 2015 1:40 PM

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omg, my mother does the same fucking thing to me all the time! I've never even been diagnosed but she just assumes that since I was deployed that that must mean I have the dreaded PTSD and uses that every time she sees me. I don't get why people are fascinated by it. It's just beyond me. I just had to completely isolate myself from her because it was so aggravating. The monthly phone call to say "hi, how are you, I'm good thanks," is basically the premise of my relationship with her. Sorry bud, I know, it's bullshit and it's fucked up, and people outside our profession like to talk about it as if it's taboo or some bullshit. Just don't let it get to you. That's the only advice I have.

Response by Cpl Joshua Stearns made Jun 11 at 2015 2:20 PM

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yeah they do im actually trying do kickstart project on this.

Response by CPL Aloysius Grimaudo made Jun 11 at 2015 2:49 PM

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Yes they do...and so does the judicial system....I got a impaired driving and 2bile I was in probation...I called the v.a. help line just to talk to someone...I was not suicidal....they lady called the police...they kicked my door in...( that's exactly what someone with ptsd needs..) and took my meds...for ed me to go to hospital..and when I got out my probation officer put me in jail for 3 days....because he told me the police were involved and that is a violation of my probation.....so now...I stay in my house all the time because I don't trust anybody...no-one cares that soldiers have ptsd...I go to reg. Appt. And take meds and all..and people still look at me like I have aids or something... Or I'm gonna snap and go on shooting spree like everyone talks about...that how people really feel....cpl. Grimaudo.

Response by SSgt Rusty Warner made Jun 11 at 2015 4:10 PM

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I have found that I am treated exactly the same and I am fine with that. I even got an ADA exception for testing in school but some instructors have told me that they didn't want to honor the ADA exemption in lieu of my academic performance. I have gone to treatment in the past and have learned to mostly manage my issues on my own now. I do go to school on a military installation but the instructors are all civilians and I have not noticed any sensitivity at all to the issue. Luckily for me though, nobody asks and I don't tell.

Response by PO2 Craig Kn. made Jun 11 at 2015 4:58 PM

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let me share I came home and with no one in my life at the time used a family member as my fudcary for my acounts and property because my kids were not of age so in the time of five yrs. my fudcary drained my accounts of over $200,000 and was able to restructure my personal property as to removing my name from it all and to make it worse the V.A. rep over seen this but really didnt do there job to oversee what was going on and whats worse they played the ptsd card and said all they had to do was call and i would be taken away as to I was nuts and crazy and she got everything of mine this the poorest thing you can do to anyone but to have your family call you stupid because you have a hard time dealing with things MY point here is to beware because things are always not as good as they look

Response by SGT Frank Leonardo made Jun 11 at 2015 5:38 PM

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no one treats me any different they still treat me as Frank no more or less which is great cause the VA is my help and so far that has been good for the most part,

Response by SSG Trevor S. made Jun 11 at 2015 7:23 PM

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I've had people assume I have PTSD after hearing that I served a few tours. It's infuriating to deal with, and nooooooo the frustration isn't PTSD.

Response by SSG John Dombrowski made Jun 11 at 2015 8:11 PM

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the only people that have treated me different when they find out are civilians and a select few members of the military. Other than that, those who have it can relate and those who deal with it in others all the time can understand.

Response by SGM Mikel Dawson made Jun 12 at 2015 1:00 AM

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Many people will never understand. How many "normal" people will go off the rocker? I just had a VA physical and the doc asked if I was filing for PTSD, I said no. I guess I never want that tag on my back. Do I got PTSD, who knows, and what's normal?

We got to live the with cards we get. Hopefully someday people will pull their heads out of their sitting point and grow up.

Response by SSG Hank Ortega made Jun 12 at 2015 2:23 PM

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His question to you in front of an entire classroom, was insensitive, rude, and a violation of HIPPA. You privacy was invaded, and frankly It was absolutely NONE of his business.
Wether you have PTSD or not, and how you deal with it if you do is not open to discussion, in any open forum.
Now, if you had walked tote front of the room and put him in choke hold, you could ask him wether HE has PTSD now and how he plans of dealing with it.
This instructor is a bully a quack, and was looking to attack you.
Remember that Colleges and Universities are filled with Liberal assholes with no manners who are not looking to educate anyone, but to advance their agenda, and to propagandize students.

Response by SSG Donald Mceuen made Jun 12 at 2015 4:12 PM

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I do not tell them.

Response by TSgt Jack Manigold made Jun 13 at 2015 8:48 AM

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Most people just ask what the triggers are. The rest just tippy toe around you and treat you like a live grenade with the pin pulled.

Response by PO2 Gerry Tandberg made Jun 14 at 2015 10:45 PM

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Alicia, Thank you for your service, and I'm sorry to hear you were victimized by a professor and students who know little about life beyond their last twitter text.

Post Traumatic Stress is a natural response to critical incidents in our life and it affects us in different ways physically, emotionally, cognitively, and/or spiritually. It also affects us to certain degrees and is often rated 1 thru 10. Anyone who has survived a fire, flood, hurricane, tornado, shipwreck, airplane accident, combat, loss of a child, or been a victim of rape, robbery, beating, molestation, ill treatment, imprisonment, harassment, or any life threating incident never forgets what happened to them. PTS is a natural response to bad or unpleasant incidents, episodes, or chapters in our life. Symptoms include nightmares, flashbacks, loss of sleep, irritability, short temperedness, loss of concentration, hostility, weight gain, loss of self-worth, etc.

For the past several years we have seen a great deal of change in the way PTS is address. The VA tends to take a clinical approach to Post Traumatic Stress and continues to call it a DISORDER (PDSD). PTS is not a DISORDER, but a natural response to trauma we experience. The word DISORDER has a negative connotation, when what we are reacting/responding to is natural. It can be likened to a scab on a healing wound and eventually becomes a scar on a healed wound. Therefore it is becoming more common to suggest Combat Veterans often experience Post Traumatic Stress Injuries, or PTSI.

I have many friends who are combat Vietnam Veterans. They all came home wanting to put the experience behind them. Very few were willing to sit down and talk about their experiences. Far too many came home with an addiction to drugs and alcohol with little help from anyone, including the VA. Today we have many combat Iraq/Afghanistan Veterans who also struggle with the similar issues when they come home as they strive to melt back into civilian life. I’m a non-combat Veteran, but have the privilege of working within a small faith-based group who assist Combat Vets with PTSI. About 98% within our group are Veterans, and about one in five in our group are Combat Veterans. PTS does not affecting just men and women in the military, but also within law enforcement and has become recognized as a being a big factor in the health and stability of their departments.

Nearly all vets with PTS have varying degree of trust. Even among themselves vets may not open up, or not even know they have PTS. To help our vets many organizations sponsor Veteran’s Camp or Retreats. The idea is to have a safe place where they get to know other vets with PTS, have a good time, and hopefully develop friendships, as well as understand how to cope with PTS. At these camps we talk about issues that bother them, including lack of support of the Veterans Administration. Often politics is a topic of discussion. Also, what our government expects of our military; including rules of engagement, poor intelligence, failed planning on missions, etc. We often talk about their believe in the mission where they are sent to engage an enemy and their effectiveness. There is a spiritual component to PTS, and frequently that becomes part of the discussion. We also talk about how PTS may have affected our relationship with our wives, children, significant other, parents, brother and sisters, friends, and our employers.

At home, on any given day twenty-two 22 Iraq/Afghanistan Veterans are taking their own life; mostly attributed to PTS. However, this number in reality runs as high as high as 34 per day when you include Vietnam Vets, and/or vets who OD on drugs and/or alcohol who also suffer from PTS. We say that this is “22 Too Many.”

Hopefully, this information has been helpful. Please know there are many who understand what you are going through. There are Veteran Retreat opportunities all over the USA; just do a Google search. Our group will keep you in prayer.

Response by SGT George Smead made Jun 15 at 2015 2:24 AM

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Not every vet has PTSD and not everyone with PTSD are a "nutcase". When my father was in (WW2 and Korea) it was "shellshock". In my time we were just looking to get over or get out of work. Some can live with it and show zero signs of a problem. It didn't affect me till I was mugged 20 years later. It kind of flipped a switch and it took months to bring it back to earth. Do I tell people I have PTSD. If they ask I will tell them I'm working on things and take life day by day. I don't want to have someone feel like I'm a different person. BTW, I would have called out the professor and ask him if being an a-hole was the way he was born or was he a self-made man.

Response by SSG (ret) William Martin made Jun 15 at 2015 3:17 PM

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SGT Alicia Brenneis , I have a child hood friend who is female. She suffers from PTSD due to a horrific experience. No, she was never in the military so that rules out combat zone trauma. She recently told me she was raped in 2005. We got on the subject of PTSD and she suffers from PTSD. I have not been diagnosed to have PTSD but others suspect I have it. I believe my friend's experience to be greater in potential for damage than mine. I can't imagine what its like to be sexually assaulted. You said, "One girl even asked me if I was safe to be around or if I would just snap someday". I sort of want to laugh and I sort of want to ask, "WTF...is she ignorant" and I am referring to that girl who asked you that stupid question. Its people like you who you need to watch out for, and they need to be educated. If you get upset or something over an incident, she and many like will say, "Well she has PTSD so she's crazy".

Response by 1LT Richard C. made Jun 15 at 2015 4:55 PM

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Simple answer is yes...it's not something I talk about among buddies, because they already understand, and it doesn't effect how we treat each other.

Work is another story. I was removed from my position, because my supervisor and I had a discussion about my request for a day off to go to local VA once a month. When asked how the visit went, I opened up about my counselling. Over the next few months, I received bad evaluations, and was removed from my supervisory position. There is so much more to this story, but it is under review as I type this.

I have found that applications for advancement since this started are being denied as 'Unqualified' for various reasons. Communications with people I used to consider friends are now official only and I general eat alone in the lunch room. Its hard, but it shows me what kind of person I don't want to be. I keep my smile on, and put forth my best each day. Reviews with my new supervisor are back up to superior again and things are on the mend, but then again, they are a Veteran too.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 16 at 2015 12:14 PM

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I think your professor was out of bounds. I teach college classes and have quite a few OEF/OIF vets.
I don't question PTSD.....because I just pre-suppose that its there.........
This professors inquisitive nature should be reported.
In answer to your original question.....yes.......I am treated differently; at my day job at a law enforcement agency I am sometimes looked at like I have a "hair trigger."
A really stupid deputy that I worked with thought it was funny to tell all the guys that I was REALLY dangerous when I was PMS. Idiot.
I would say that the Dean needs to know what happened.......this was NOT in any way ok.

Response by SFC William Farrell made Jun 16 at 2015 11:08 PM

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The VA is attempting to educate the public about veterans with PTSD. You can read more about it in this press release from VA.
http://www.va.gov/opa/pressrel/pressrelease.cfm?id=2711

News Releases - Office of Public and Intergovernmental Affairs

Provides a list and brief description of news releases issued by the Department of Veterans Affairs. Most news releases are also available as Word files to download.

Response by Capt Christian D. Orr made Jun 27 at 2015 2:43 PM

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I don't have PTSD, but back when I was still on active-duty, I was diagnosed with Generalized Anxiety Disorder (G.A.D.), which on the surface appears similar to A.D.D. but is thankfully not as severe. I've had to deal with some ign'ant responses when disclosing my condition, and have had to jump through extra hoops on my SF-86 (and similar background check paperwork) when applying to law enforcement and security contract jobs (Triple Canopy actually turned me down for a PSD job because of it).

Response by MAJ Ken Landgren made Jun 28 at 2015 2:12 PM

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Sometimes they know you are different.

Response by MAJ Ken Landgren made Jul 2 at 2015 2:37 PM

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I say I feel normal, but others say differently. To be honest, I don't care.

Response by SrA Conrad Lewis made Jul 10 at 2015 12:42 PM

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Of course they do! They wouldn't be human or a civilian if they were totally ok with it. I can't blame the them either since the symptoms show up at any time and almost any form.

Response by SPC Mike MacDonald made Jul 16 at 2015 4:50 PM

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First, refuse to use the 'D", you have PTS not a disorder. I answer by telling them I'm lucky to have PTS because I no longer have to answer to anyone, at anytime, for anything. I view police as people unlucky enough to have that job but not superior to me, they just happen to have that job. Yes I am happy to cooperate with them because I just see them as some person who has that job. That's it.

Response by MAJ Ken Landgren made Aug 21 at 2015 1:03 PM

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Yes but I don't care unless they are cussing me.

Response by SGT Craig Northacker made Sep 10 at 2015 3:00 PM

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They have no clue - I am different, have a different background, and one that they have no idea even exists. One pissed me off really bad one day and he got an earful - but I am still an enigma.

Response by SSG John Salazar made Sep 17 at 2015 5:48 PM

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i don't disclose my health / psychological issue but my family would notice my tantrums as my suds go up so before i snap walking out to another atmosphere or riding my dual purpose motorcycle would calm or "unsnap" my triggers. At one point i have been addicted to the meds VA would prescribe to me, my family or friends would notice that i'm not all up there or transformed into a zombie, after hearing that i tapered my meds by taking them every other day but then there are times i forget taking it. I don't disclose, it's my pain not theirs.

Response by MAJ Ken Landgren made Sep 18 at 2015 2:09 PM

2015-09-18T14:09:24-04:00

For many and some veterans have no clue about PTSD and will judge the veteran with PTSD. I feel immense disappointment for the veterans who become judgmental, as they are hurting their fellow veterans.

Response by Cpl Harry Larsen made Sep 19 at 2015 1:36 PM

2015-09-19T13:36:01-04:00

Back in 1970. I didn't know what PTSD was. I just thought I was "losing it" when sudden rage came over me over a few not-too-big-a-deal situations back in the world (for example, a woman honking her car horn at me while I was driving, I erupted in curses and shaking my fist). A fellow employee in my car looked at me like I was weird and (of course) I was embarrassed. What could I say?

So...not knowing what "it" was for over ten years and then discovering (something shown about PTSD on TV) that I wasn't alone. Others were dealing with the aftermath of traumatic events (for me, it was Vietnam experiences in forward artillery base camps). What a relief! I wasn't "losing it."

I didn't tell anyone, not even my kids while they were growing up. I could handle it pretty well, by then. I did tell a couple of really close, supportive friends and my wife.

Lately, I've included my siblings.

After those first ten years, the rage gradually subsided or I recognized the triggers and avoided bad situations (especially the sound of helicopters and explosions and smell of gun smoke/cordite/powder on the 4th of July).

The nightmares still continue (much less frequently), and I no longer have nightmares about being in Vietnam. My nightmares are of other "dangers" such as vicious dogs, wolves, wild cats, bears, bad people, etc. For that change alone, I am grateful.

I don't think all that fast on my feet and would probably have put myself in your same position. I'd have blurted out the truth and expected some empathy. Having now read most of the comments, I hope I might do things differently. Thanks for bringing up this subject. It is VERY helpful to me and I am sure to many others!

Response by CPT Richard Riley made Sep 19 at 2015 1:53 PM

2015-09-19T13:53:15-04:00

Do they? Yes - Should they? - No. As you've mentioned, there are a myriad of degrees embedded in PTSD. Provided you have worked to master your particular issue, it is a 'NON-issue' and there is no need to elaborate further. There is no 'right' to inform those around you, be they friends, classmates, work associates. Most of the questions you were confronted with speak more about the uninformed or worse misinformed people who take a tidbit of knowledge and weave it into a 4 volume set of garbage.

Response by Col Dona Marie Iversen made Aug 1 at 2016 3:44 PM

2016-08-01T15:44:32-04:00

Poorly informed people will treat others not like them different. Many are tainted by the media that all with PTSD are crazy and will kill! Those that ware informed will and should treat you with compassion. Try to find your inner strength to educate. Best Wishes!

Response by SGT James Murphy made Aug 4 at 2016 3:07 PM

2016-08-04T15:07:27-04:00

The Short answer is... It depends on whether or not they are a$$+@6$ or not. 8-)

Response by A1C Charles Hagen made Aug 11 at 2016 1:25 PM

2016-08-11T13:25:29-04:00

My friends do not other than they cut me some slack when I'm having a bad time. However professionals mostly do not know that I have it because if they did I would bet that better than 90% of them would not know how to address it. The ignorance is astonishing.

Response by SFC William Stephens A. Jr., 3 MSM, JSCM made Apr 27 at 2024 8:23 PM

2024-04-27T20:23:46-04:00

I learned there are places to talk about PTSD and plances not to talk about PTSD. I say that because once you open the the book about the problem or illness. You seem to be a TARGET.
Job, Relationship, Friends and just people around you.

They tend to Judge a Book by it's Cover.....