Do we think America is going the directions of the ancient Romans or are we bound to be a better America?

PO2 Jack Mitchell — Sat, 09 Apr 2016 19:33:23 -0400

The collapse of The Romans or bound for greatness??

Response by CPT Joseph K Murdock made Apr 9 at 2016 7:44 PM

CPT Joseph K Murdock — Sat, 09 Apr 2016 19:44:43 -0400

The Romans had a 2000 year run. That was not too bad.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 9 at 2016 8:22 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 09 Apr 2016 20:22:25 -0400

I would say I would hope bound for greatness but the Romans was a military driven society " For the Glory of Rome" the power behind a Ceasar was the army.

Response by SFC Everett Oliver made Apr 9 at 2016 9:14 PM

SFC Everett Oliver — Sat, 09 Apr 2016 21:14:18 -0400

We are no doubt "achin for a breakin". If we do not get out of this entitlement and PC modes we find ourselves in we haven't a hope.

Response by PO2 Arthur Delsing made Apr 9 at 2016 9:57 PM

PO2 Arthur Delsing — Sat, 09 Apr 2016 21:57:43 -0400

We are on track for the Romans, it will take the people to change things by hiring different leaders

Response by CPT Jack Durish made Apr 9 at 2016 10:19 PM

CPT Jack Durish — Sat, 09 Apr 2016 22:19:40 -0400

Who knows? It's up to We the People to decide. Looking at the candidates in this year's goat rodeo, it seems We the People don't give a damn about America, does it?

Response by Capt Seid Waddell made Apr 9 at 2016 11:49 PM

Capt Seid Waddell — Sat, 09 Apr 2016 23:49:55 -0400

We are currently following the Roman example.

Response by SGM Mikel Dawson made Apr 10 at 2016 8:27 AM

SGM Mikel Dawson — Sun, 10 Apr 2016 08:27:37 -0400

One thing's for sure - nothing lasts for ever! Every nation, empire or what have you has fallen - it's bound to happen. It's just a matter of when and how bad. One example the English empire. Before WWII it was the world currency, the sun never set on the Empire, now it's cut back to size. Rome, Aztecs, Greeks everyone goes down.

Response by MSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 10 at 2016 8:45 AM

MSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 10 Apr 2016 08:45:46 -0400

Well...

Response by Maj Marty Hogan made Apr 10 at 2016 10:19 AM

Maj Marty Hogan — Sun, 10 Apr 2016 10:19:11 -0400

Good question. I think about this often and wonder how we fare. One think to think about is how vast the Roman Empire was to manage and then how lax they got looking to make a Utopian society in some respects. Technology and moral values of today have lessened that gap- but have we drove the human factor of wanting more with less effort from our DNA? I think the last portion to be a better America could be rephrased as a different one. Better is in one's personal views and opinions. I am sure my father's generation felt we would ruin the world and it is still here to make a comparison answer. We label millennials as the me generation- but they thought the same of us and they will think the same of the next generation. Again- awesome question and one which requires mature thought and direction to answer.

Response by ENS Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 10 at 2016 5:37 PM

ENS Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 10 Apr 2016 17:37:55 -0400

fast track like sodom and G.

Response by PO2 Jeff B. made Apr 10 at 2016 7:28 PM

PO2 Jeff B. — Sun, 10 Apr 2016 19:28:12 -0400

I feel like I'm watching a once great ship slowly sinking. I am saddened to say that I could not recommend military service for any of my three boys. I just don't trust the "leadership" to do the right things anymore.

Response by PO2 Robert Aitchison made Apr 11 at 2016 12:23 PM

PO2 Robert Aitchison — Mon, 11 Apr 2016 12:23:44 -0400

Our republic has already lasted longer than many of our founding fathers expected it to.

Response by PO2 Todd Voge made Apr 11 at 2016 1:02 PM

PO2 Todd Voge — Mon, 11 Apr 2016 13:02:01 -0400

History has shown that most governments last no more than 200 or so years. We're on 240 this year. I hope history is wrong, but as CPT Jack Durish states in another comment, it's "Up to We the People". And the way things are looking, it doesn't bode well for us.

*** Edited this to say 240 years, not 230. Can't subtract as I get older!

Response by PO2 David Welch made Apr 26 at 2016 11:39 AM

PO2 David Welch — Tue, 26 Apr 2016 11:39:54 -0400

We won't have a fall of Rome moment yet, but as to our direction I already see a few dictators queuing to rule. Also, our government has proven to be corrupt, if the people fight back we will see a new Rome.

Response by PO2 David Allender made May 14 at 2016 6:32 AM

PO2 David Allender — Sat, 14 May 2016 06:32:31 -0400

I am 74 years of age. I remember the United States being a great leader with great men in office when it counted. We almost lost World War 2 at the beginning, but we came back and fought the enemy and won. This nation built more ships during the war than any other nation. Of course we had many ship yards to do this with. Today we have maybe two ship yards, one on each coast. Greed has taken away the ship yards and they moved overseas. Lower labor cost and no benefits. Today ships are so complicated it takes five years or more to build them, as compared to a year or less during WW2. Most of what we need need we depend on other countries to sell to us now. When war comes, and it is, we won't be able to manufacture fast enough, nor repair fast enough. To my way of thinking,the US has any import taxed. This should apply to US goods manufactured over seas, even if their home office is located here in the states. Maybe this may bring industry back to the states. {rewcious meteals needed by our industry is supplied by countries that are not our friends any more. They sell now, but when we go to war, they won't. We are in a very dangerous position right now. We are not self supported. We are too dependent on overseas trade. I am sure that the other services are just hurting just as badly as the Navy. As many commenters have said, the people do not seem to care to much right now. I do not want to get involved with the Washington arena and how they are hurting this country. Enough said on that. What scares me, there are no great leaders today as during World War 2. If there are, then their hands are tied by bureaucrats in Washington. We who have served in better times know what this nation can be. We all can only pray for better leaders than what we have. GOD help us to become what we were that we can mean something again for the world.

Response by PO2 David Noble made May 17 at 2016 2:03 AM

PO2 David Noble — Tue, 17 May 2016 02:03:59 -0400

To be honest, I'm not sure. when our current establishment inevitably fails, will we pick up the pieces and carry-on? Will we sit dumbfounded, as our nation is overwhelmed by our enemies?

Response by PO2 John Forzley made Jun 6 at 2016 6:33 PM

PO2 John Forzley — Mon, 06 Jun 2016 18:33:50 -0400

People seem to have lost the desire to earn rewards, too many are looking for handouts that they believe they are entitled to. We are creating a country of people solely dependent on the government for their existence.

Response by SSG Edward Tilton made Mar 30 at 2018 8:46 PM

SSG Edward Tilton — Fri, 30 Mar 2018 20:46:05 -0400

We are doomed, stupid and damn proud of it.