Do You Agree That The "Liberal Media" Is Going After Dr Carson & Thinks He Ought to Drop Out?

2015-09-21T17:13:54-04:00

Dr Carson doubled down today with his Muslim comments & that has the Liberal Media Talking Head's Hair on Fire. They are pushing for him to withdraw from the race for president..

Response by SFC Stephen King made Sep 21 at 2015 5:21 PM

2015-09-21T17:21:04-04:00

Dr. Carson expressed his opinion and the media is on the hunt. The Donald has no filter and they just let it go.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 21 at 2015 5:22 PM

2015-09-21T17:22:19-04:00

Did you see the actual interview, and what he said? I'll see if I can find it.

IMO. Seems the Media picks and chooses certain quotes and runs with it....go figure

*disclaimer*. I have no opinion on what he said. Just tired of Media spin...lol

Response by SGT Jerrold Pesz made Sep 21 at 2015 5:29 PM

2015-09-21T17:29:20-04:00

Of course. Liberals want anybody who is not a flaming liberal to withdraw. The news media always promote liberals for the Republican nomination knowing that real conservatives will just stay home and then they turn on their chosen Republican candidate after the primary.

Response by LCDR Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 21 at 2015 5:38 PM

2015-09-21T17:38:17-04:00

I can understand the reaction. I haven't seen his most recent comments, but the original ones were quoted only partially and completely out of context. He still has a lot to learn, but what he's saying is also being skewed.

Response by Cpl Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 21 at 2015 6:35 PM

2015-09-21T18:35:31-04:00

He didn't say anything other than his personal opinion on who he would vote for. The First Amendment is still the law, right? We all have a right to vote for whomever we chose, regardless. He didn't say anything about violating law or otherwise just his personal beliefs.

Response by MSgt Jim Wolverton made Sep 21 at 2015 7:35 PM

2015-09-21T19:35:28-04:00

I for one welcome Dr. Carson's honest views, what else should a devout Christian Republican say? SMH.

Response by CPT Jack Durish made Sep 21 at 2015 8:44 PM

2015-09-21T20:44:06-04:00

First of all the media is not liberal. I am a liberal. I love liberty. They are merely propagandists flying cover for the ideology of the left and those who practice it. Second, Dr. Carson didn't have to say anything about Muslims. It was very poor politics to say what he did and he'll be castigated for it. Will that hurt his campaign? I'm guessing not. The left already hates him. One more reason won't make that much difference. Conservatives are leery of some of his positions (such as the 2nd Amendment argument) but will likely love his comment about Muslims. The Independents could go one way or the other. Given the abysmal slate appearing thus far on the left, they most likely will stay home...

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 21 at 2015 10:35 PM

2015-09-21T22:35:02-04:00

I disagree sincerely with Dr. Carson. His views on who can and should be president are in direct contrast with Article 6 of the US Constitution, our governing document.

The last 20 words of Article 6 read, "no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States."

A Republican who I have a ton of respect for, and who, to this day I would vote for if his name were on the ballot, made a very profound statement regarding this very topic during the campaign of John McCain. I've linked it here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=111&v=dYELqbZAQ4M

What if he were muslim? Colin Powell on Muslim Americans.

Colin Powell on Meet the Press, Sunday October 19, 2008. After making an endorsement for democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama, Former Secretary of ...

Response by Capt Walter Miller made Sep 21 at 2015 11:59 PM

2015-09-21T23:59:36-04:00

What an idiot. He is running for president but he doesn't know that the Constitution allows of -no- religious test for office?

Idiots like Carson I get.

What I don't get is why -anyone- would think he should be in the race, let alone vote for him, or Trump either.

Before you consider the Trump/Carson ticket, watch the recent movie, "Lincoln' with Daniel Day Lewis. Lincoln was a shrewd master politician. Watch how he works to get the 13th amendment passed. It ain't brain surgery and it ain't the art of the deal that Trump is familiar with.

And it is a great movie too.

Yeah, I know a lot of people on RP will have the attitude, "Oh geez, Lincoln", for the same reason they have the attitude: "Oh geez, Obama."

Walt

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 22 at 2015 3:01 AM

2015-09-22T03:01:08-04:00

Go on with your bad self Mr. Carson. Say what mean and mean what you say. He said and many people think it, but are to afraid to say what he said.

Response by SrA Matthew Knight made Sep 22 at 2015 3:17 AM

2015-09-22T03:17:15-04:00

Of course they want him to drop out. Right now I think the liberals are banking on Trump winning the GOP because that is the best chance they would have of winning the election where as if Dr. Carson makes it the Republicans will have a great shot at winning. Anything they can do to take out the serious candidates that they know pose the greatest threat to their own victory.

It's sort of the same reason I honestly hope Hillary wins on the Democratic side because I think that if it came down to her and Carson enough Democrats would end up siding with Carson over her that we would almost be guaranteed a victory. Unfortunately Sanders is really starting to make ground for himself and I personally believe he poses the greatest threat to us on the Republican side right now because of all of the promises he is trying to make. Whether or not he could act on half of what he says is the big question but it's one that many that support him just blindly refuse to ask.

Response by SFC Michael Hasbun made Sep 22 at 2015 6:46 AM

2015-09-22T06:46:33-04:00

So he made televised statements, and now we think it's vindictive that his televised statements are televised? Sounds right...

Response by COL Jean (John) F. B. made Sep 22 at 2015 8:34 AM

2015-09-22T08:34:19-04:00

Sgt Tom Cunnally - Of course. The liberal media will purposely go after anybody running against Queen Hillary. Have you ever seen the media (except for Fox) ask a Democrat candidate anything but softball questions. Have you ever seen them ask "gotcha" questions, like the one asked Ben Carson? Of course not...

Response by SGT Christopher Churilla made Sep 22 at 2015 8:52 AM

2015-09-22T08:52:53-04:00

He said if a Muslim candidate put his religion over the Constitution, if he attempted to turn America into a theocracy, then he would not support him, and neither would I. A President can certainly push his political agenda, but not a religious one.

Got to love that First Amendment.

I remember a similar concern was raised when JFK was running for President; people were concerned he would turn into a puppet for the Vatican. He stated that if there was ever a conflict between his faith and his duties of office, he would resign.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 22 at 2015 8:53 AM

2015-09-22T08:53:33-04:00

Ben Carson has the right to say what he feels, even if it is irresponsible. And the media ("liberal" or not) has a right to voice their opinion as well. If Carson's remarks carry water among certain portions of the population, it'll be interesting to see how much traction there is with the public at large.

Personally, I don't the media is "liberal" so much as they are "mercenary". They went after Bill Clinton like a pack of dogs on a wounded deer; and a truly "liberal" media would not have paid so much attention to the Birthers conspiracy and treated all the anti-Obama stuff as serious news items. They give anti-vaxxers and climate change deniers a spotlight as well. What they are motivated by isn't ideology so much as stirring or creating controversy, because that makes money for them.

Response by SSG Warren Swan made Sep 22 at 2015 9:16 AM

2015-09-22T09:16:14-04:00

I had hopes for him, but his religious "requirement" has me thinking he's not the best man for the job. As POTUS you are to defend the constitution and use it as a reference point to govern ALL Americans, not just the ones that fit your religious views. With what he said, he's becoming discriminatory and grouping all Muslims as one. Not all of them practice Sharia law, so they get punished too? As far as his dropping out, maybe someone with cooler minds can have a one on one with him and show him the mistakes of his comments, and how inflammatory and uneducated they are. He's not a dumb person and that could be what makes him better in the end. If not see ya Herman Cain pt2

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 22 at 2015 9:19 AM

2015-09-22T09:19:21-04:00

As much as I like Ben Carson as a person and respect his former occupation - his comments on Muslims have pretty much done him in, in my opinion. America is a secular nation, founded on many principles - one being religious freedom. To say we ought to prohibit a certain religion from pursuing the White House is akin to segregation. I guess he forgot we already have elected Muslim officials that serve in the House of Representatives, and in Congress. Not once to my knowledge, have they invoked a bill/proposal that was based on sharia.

This is why America struggles to move forward - because someone is always pulling at the racial tension cords, or the religious tension cords...etc...People need to stop the hate and move forward, regardless of difference. We have a Constitution and a Bill of Rights that protects us from falling victim to becoming a nation led by religious zealots- whether it's Christians, Jewish, Muslims or any other faith...and that's one of several things that the founding fathers wanted to avoid.

Response by Cpl Mark McMiller made Sep 22 at 2015 1:26 PM

2015-09-22T13:26:41-04:00

Well, here's the thing. What Carson said is true. Islam is incompatible with our Constitution. The word Islam literally translates to, "surrender to the will of Allah", and Sharia law is the will of Allah. So a devout Muslim will put Sharia law before our Constitution; this is why we see honor killings of females by Muslim men even here in the U.S.; and Islam's treatment of women is just one behavior that is Unconstitutional. Now, I don't know if all Muslims are that devout but I also don't know how to tell the difference. What I do know is that over the centuries since Islam was founded, Islam has been gradually and steadily taking over more countries by Muslims migrating to those countries peacefully and then producing offspring at a higher rate than the native population and eventually taking over that country and implementing Sharia law street by street, city by city, country by country. We see this happening today in Europe with Muslim populated "No go areas" in many European countries. The riots in France a few years ago were Muslim men in no go areas. This is why many of us are concerned about so many Muslim refugees coming into the U.S. For those of you who think that can't happen here in the U.S., what do you think would happen if Muslim's became the majority in this country and voted a majority of Muslims into local, state, and federal legislatures? Do you think laws passed by devout Muslims would adhere more to our Constitution or to Sharia law? I know what I think and it's based on historical fact.

Response by SPC George Rudenko made Sep 22 at 2015 1:55 PM

2015-09-22T13:55:39-04:00

Liberal media CNN and MSNBC go after the right. Fox goes after the left. THat's why I don't watch their news.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 24 at 2015 4:48 PM

2015-09-24T16:48:58-04:00

idk about droping out but this Social media stuff is keeling us.

Response by SPC(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 24 at 2015 5:03 PM

2015-09-24T17:03:36-04:00

They are definitely happy to have something to go on. Though now that he has had a chance to clarify his statement, I don't see how they think it will hurt him. It bothers me that they spin it as though he said that a Muslim should be banned from running for president, instead of that he personally wouldn't endorse a Muslim who supported Sharia Law as president. Quite frankly, I don't see what the fuss is about. Whether or not he is right in what he believes about Islam, he believes that they support subjugation of women, death penalties for homosexuals, people of other faiths, and those who leave the faith... I would like to ask any on the left, if there were someone running for President who advocated these things, would you vote for them? And if he is wrong about what Islam preaches, is this not an appropriate time to address the misrepresentation of Islam in America, which was done by the same media persecuting Dr. Carson for his concerns, instead of demanding he drop out of the race? Obviously, with his campaign donations exploding, and his level of support on social media now surpassing all of the other candidates, his perception is obviously a widely held concern among Americans.