Do you agree with the religious leaders who are professing that we are headed to WWIII (fulfilling a biblical prophesy)?

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Response by SCPO Private RallyPoint Member made May 18 at 2016 10:20 AM

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It's hard to deny the prophecies of Revelations. One must be a very fundamental believer in the Bible, as a whole, however, for that occur. My Dad was a minister for sixty-two years before he passed on five years ago. He tried to slip a few last sermons to me in his last days!!! He was a devout believer. I wish I had his faith and belief system. Viet Nam and thirty years of police work has left me with serious questions about all things Biblical. Is it the last days? No one knows. I will say that if the flashpoint that is the Mideast and Asian Muslim world and the social depravity that consumes the United States are any indicators, our Goose Is Seriously Cooked!!

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made May 18 at 2016 10:20 AM

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Sir - What do they cite as the basis for this prophesy?

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made May 18 at 2016 10:21 AM

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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/05/17/britain-has-become-semi-pacifist-under-cameron-says-retired-gene/

Britain has become 'semi-pacifist' under Cameron, says retired general as he warns of war with...

David Cameron has made Britain a “semi-pacifist” nation more interested in protecting “welfare and benefits” than adequate defences, one of the country’s most senior retired generals has warned.

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made May 18 at 2016 10:26 AM

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Well Sir, that is up to interpretation. I have a B.A. in religion from the University of Southern Mississippi, and my personal research indicates that Revelations was a very apocalyptic analogy for the Roman Empire. It wasn't intended for literal interpretation thousands of years later, although it is just about every time elections roll around. The article that you posted doesn't seem to mention religion, but I think any apocalyptic-minded religious leader will see signs anywhere and everywhere.

Response by SGT Dave Tracy made May 18 at 2016 10:50 AM

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The end of the world has been repeatedly predicted--falsely, up 'til at least today--since day one. I'm not losing any sleep because some random dude somewhere decided for himself exactly what the "signs" (whatever they are) MUST mean and that the end is nigh.

The end of the world will be like the lottery; assuming mankind is still around, whoever just so happens to guess it right on the day it occurs wins...or loses along with the rest of us, but hey, congratulations on finally getting it right!

Response by PO1 William "Chip" Nagel made May 18 at 2016 11:38 AM

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Fear Sells Religion, Always has always will. "The End Is Nigh" Key Part of the formation of Several Christian Denominations, Key Part of Jihadi Islamist Extremist Indoctrination.

Response by SGT William Howell made May 18 at 2016 11:48 AM

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Brother, they were doing the same thing at the snake kissing church I went to when I was a kid. Revelations is so far out there that it can be interpreted that the "end of the world is coming" since written history. If you are a believer that the bible is literal (I don't), you are going to be spending every waking moment getting ready for the next coming of Christ every second of the day.

My suggestion is get right with God and then live you life. If you wait for the "what if" you are going to miss out on living. Not how I am going to spend my days.

Response by CH (CPT) Private RallyPoint Member made May 18 at 2016 11:52 AM

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That the situación will Grt progressively worst it's a prophetic. The Bible does not predict a WWIII specifically, although we may call it that. The point of scripture is to demonstrate the decay of the human race in contrast to the salvific power of the gospel. In fact if you read Matthew 24:14 you will realize that the end is connected to the finishing of the preaching of the gospel and not wars or political turmoil. I hope this helps Sir.

Response by LCDR Private RallyPoint Member made May 18 at 2016 12:30 PM

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For most of "we" fundamentalist Christians, there is a series of future, apocalyptic events that are described throughout the scripture...most notably Revelations, though they are alluded to in the Gospels and even the Old Testament. Since these were put on paper, around 96AD, various world events have been "proclaimed" to be heralding the "end times". However, a careful study of these texts details the fact that a few, unique circumstances have yet to be realized. First, there is the appearance of a leader so powerful, popular, and deceptive...that he manages to "unify" humanity in rebellion against God, and persecution of the faithful. The Caesars, Napoleon, Hitler...even current leaders...have all been listed as "suspects". This "Antichrist" is assisted by the "Beast"-the mark of which is said to be "required" in either the forehead or hand, as a sign of loyalty towards, and entitlement to the society they will usher in. Again, printed currency, credit cards, even the Internet, have all been suspected of being the "Beast". This "new" order of world government is prophesied to lead a horrific persecution of anyone refusing to denounce their faith and follow the Antichrist/Beast, which ultimately leads to the "rapture",i.e. removal of the faithful... and all out war between the combined forces of humanity allied against God and Heaven. Some scholars cite prophecy of battles between allied nations against Israel, and other earthly fighting leading up to "Armageddon"- the climax. In between, are prophecies that allude to the "star Wormwood" falling into the sea and killing a third of all living things (asteroid?)...diseases, war, famine...the ubiquitous "Four Horsemen" riding rampant...basically, earth and nature competing with mankind's own cruelty for body count. In the end, the forces of evil are defeated, and Christ sets up a kingdom on earth spanning one thousand years. What happens next is often debated, but Revelations describes a final judgement followed by an eternity of presence with God, or alternatively, damnation. While some Christians see only metaphor, and some believe these events are past...and we are in the last days of that one thousand year reign of Christ...many, myself included, believe these prophecies describe events yet to come.

Response by CPT Jack Durish made May 18 at 2016 12:43 PM

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Am I missing something here? Is there an article associated with this post or are we simply responding the the "question"? I've seen cartoons of "crazies" standing on street corners wearing sandwich boards or carrying signs proclaiming "The End is Near". It's usually the punch line of a joke. However, I haven't seen anything in the news since the grossly inaccurate stories about the Mayan Calendar.

Are we headed for WWIII? Well, it's pretty clear that WWII is in the past and if another WW comes it will be "III". I suppose if anything piques my curiosity, I wonder if we'll call the one after that "WWIV" or "WWIIII". (Did you know that "IV" wasn't used in ancient Rome? It was "IIII". "IV" didn't come into use until very late in the 19th Century. So, if someone tries to tell you that an antique clock was built prior to the late 19th Century and it has "IV" for "4", it's a con job.)

Response by CPT Joseph K Murdock made May 18 at 2016 1:08 PM

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I think we are already there with states like Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, Russia, US, Libya, Syria, Taliban, ISIS, Turks, Kurd participating.

Response by SSG James Arlington made May 18 at 2016 2:44 PM

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Save us, Jesus, save us.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made May 18 at 2016 3:30 PM

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It doesn't take a rocket scientist to understand that at some point in the future another world war will happen. Even before we had true "World Wars" we had wars that encompassed most of the known world, from the Mongol invasions of China and Europe to the Barbarian invasions of Rome. Forecasting that the world will one day be at war again is a lot like forecasting that one day it will rain again. Decades ago it was going to be the USSR vs. the US, and hundreds if not thousands of books were written on the subject.

Response by SGT Jerrold Pesz made May 18 at 2016 3:35 PM

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I have no doubt that we are headed towards another major war. We always are and always will be as long as there enough people left to fight one. People have been fighting and killing each other since the beginning and will continue to do so as long as there are two or more people left on the planet. People are animals.

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made May 18 at 2016 3:49 PM

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WWIII is here already, it's just not evenly distributed.

Response by PO1 William "Chip" Nagel made May 18 at 2016 5:51 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CvytVhqiO6E&list=PL6E1C2FB12E0646E0

The End of The World Cult Pt.1

Formerly a sailor called Wayne Bent, Michael Travesser is the leader of a cult in New Mexico called Strong City. His 56 followers - men, women and children -...

Response by PO1 William "Chip" Nagel made May 18 at 2016 5:54 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7C1t0nw3Bo

Ted Cruz's cult to bring end times

Bruce Wilson, Talk To Action, joins Thom Hartmann. If you ask many liberals - they'd say a Ted Cruz presidency would mean the end of the world. It turns out ...

Response by PO1 William "Chip" Nagel made May 18 at 2016 5:59 PM

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJDOLeTdXEs

Doomsday cult flees as end of the world fails to come

Some of the doomsday cult members who barricaded themselves in a bunker in Russia's Penza region last November are believed to have left the hideout where th...

Response by SFC Robert Bower made May 18 at 2016 6:26 PM

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F no! That's rediculous for them to think that. ... They do have their own way of thinking though so it doesn't surprise me...

Response by PO1 Private RallyPoint Member made May 19 at 2016 1:52 AM

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We don'tknow when the " second coming" will be and to infer we do is blasphemous. World wars maybe, but war is not the second coming. Just my opinion.

Response by Col Private RallyPoint Member made May 19 at 2016 6:56 AM

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I think we are confusing TV rhetoric with reality. The level of death, wars and conflict is at the lowest levels in human history. You just happen to see more on TV because "if it bleeds, it leads."

Response by PO3 Donald Murphy made May 19 at 2016 10:08 AM

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The problem with the Bible firstly - is that you have to read it correctly. The young man asks Jesus what he must do to follow him. Jesus tells him and the man responds "let me bury my father first." Jesus says "no, let the dead bury the dead." Now, if you don't know that "let the dead bury the dead" is a Jewish saying meaning "let me take care of the final harvest, do any repairs on my dad's house, take care of him before I leave" then you're going to be confused. Revelation is not confusing. If so, then you're not reading it correctly.

"But Don, it was written in code to keep the Romans from destroying it."
Really? How come God can protect the other 65 books of the Bible, but not The Revelation? There is no code. The word "fire" means the same in Rev as it does everywhere else in the Bible. God also has strict rules on prophecy and prophets. In order to be a prophet you have to be 100% correct. If not, then you are not a prophet by Biblical standards. So when religion X states that "Jesus is coming on the 6th of August, 1997" and he **DOESN'T** come, then that religion can no longer be listened to, trusted.

There are several prophecies that must be fulfilled before the second coming of Christ. They are all pretty much laid out in The Revelation. The one most military folk will gravitate towards is the resurgance/emergence of a re-united/stronger Germany and pacts made towards its influences with and regarding to Israel. The "Ten Kings" are nations that play heavily into "final battle" scenarios and they are rumored to be Northern European nations. Having an English wife, I (we) have English news running through the house and those of you so inclined may notice an English "Tea Party" style movement wanting to remove England (UK) from the European Union. Germany (as head banker of the EU) is moving towards that as well. Germany wishes for the EU to be split in to two EU's with a Northern EU having ten member nations (there's your "ten kings") and a Southern EU having ten member nations.

Notice that the Holy Roman Empire figures heavily in to The Revelation as well. The EU was (still is) heavily involved with having The Holy See (Vatican) "proof-reading" the still un-ratified EU constitution. Should a national religion for the EU be agreed upon (with the Pope 'conveniently' as it's new head) then that's a fistful of Biblical prophecies fulfilled in one afternoon. The gist of the two EU's is financial. The Northern one will pay less/earn more and it will be like a European soccer league where a nation not taking care of its finances (Greece, Ireland or Portugal) will be "demoted" to the Southern EU. The nations in the Southern EU will still be EU members getting benefits, but less benefits, giving them something to shoot for.

Once this gets ratified/approved, you'll have a ton of Biblical prophecies coming true. Germany has ratified its constitution to enable "combat" in places outside Europe and German forces have blooded themselves accordingly. With the EU's finances and a common goal (the soon to be purging of Muslims from Europe) there might be an acceleration of "armagedon" showing up. Seek out any books by Pastor Tim LaHay. Tim does not preach. Tim takes Biblical prophecies and translates them to your language and shows how they exist. For example, later in The Revelation, God sends two messengers to earth that stir up hatred and they are killed "and everyone throughout the nations can see their dead bodies." Now if you read that passage in 1981, you'd laugh out loud as that is impossible. But once CNN comes online, its now possible for "everyone throughout the nations" to see an event.

But your first step is going to be to get a modern translation Bible that contains background information. "The Student Bible - New International Version" is my recommendation. Its easy reading and interrupts you frequently with insights and historical backgrounds. Its like several books in one.

Response by SCPO Private RallyPoint Member made May 19 at 2016 4:08 PM

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SSG John Thornton gave the most succinct response to this query.

Response by PFC Donnie Harold Harris made Nov 28 at 2017 7:53 PM

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Hide and watch.