Posted on Sep 8, 2018
Do you believe if the Constitution and Bill of Rights were taught in public school it would increase understanding of the laws of the land?
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It is unfortunate that there are intelligent individuals who do not know the foundations of the guaranteed rights under the laws of the land that enable them to defend themselves, in at least,civil court actions and to know that judges are held to the standards of the Constitution. Whenever a complaint against a sitting judge goes before a Judicial Standards Committee, it is examining whether or not the judge violated the Constitution and your rights to a fair and impartial opportunity to defend yourself through due process.
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Both of my daughters went to public school and learned about the constitution/ Bill of Rights. Perhaps is not done at every State.
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SGT (Join to see)
SGT Mary Martel - Are you going to sit there and say the schools AREN"T going full libtard?
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SGT Mary Martel
SGT (Join to see) - Any group can be that way, that's the problem with "group think"--- since there is no way for me to know every policy of every school in this country I can't make an assessment one way or the other. Which if any of you weren't so interested in subscribing to your own version of group think would figure out on your own.
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Jennifer West
It is not that Liberals are ignorant, it is just that they know so much that isn't so! (Ronald Reagan)
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Cpl William Domenz While i dramatically take exception to your remark of schools going librard (mine, a South Carolina public school is not, I as an educator there am not, and my 7 peer teachers are not; please dont hit us with friendly fire), i too believe that it is up to parents to teach their kids. I only stand in proxy as the SME for this state's history, delegated to teach material the parents are responsible for but do not have knowledge of. I did not pick the textbooks for the school, and still would not pick the ones we have. They do not have the Constitution or Declaration, as they are a South Carolina history text, not a US history or US government/civics book. They do have the Bill of Rights. Other texts bought by other districts may vary, as mine may when its time to purchase a new set.
I have heard tell of books who tried to change what the Constitution said, because while it had the document, it had it in its original cursive....which kids cant read or write these days.
It...can, easily, be career suicide to teach outside of state-mandated standards. The state creates the standards, then through standardized testing makes sure you teach what they want. So if relieved, its for your kids doing poorly on testing, not for teaching what they dont say to teach. With only 180 hours, should I make sure kids have down the 5 facts the state says, or those 5 plus my 8 more that tell the rest of the story? (I do the more, but then, may be a bit crazy for teaching past what the state says).
At age 34, as a chaplain, naval officer, historian, and doctor of ministry, i find myself at times feeling like the old librarian in the Twilight Zone episode, who, because he is a librarian and speaks of the past and of faith, is put on trial and found to be "no longer useful". Ah! There it is, The Obsolete Man! Well worth the look.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Obsolete_Man
Maybe if we emphasized social studies in schools, instead of relegating them to 4th place behind math and science (not hating on math and science, i hold a B.S. from Georgia Tech) and making them collateral duties for sports coaches, we wouldnt have the problems we do in this country?
I have heard tell of books who tried to change what the Constitution said, because while it had the document, it had it in its original cursive....which kids cant read or write these days.
It...can, easily, be career suicide to teach outside of state-mandated standards. The state creates the standards, then through standardized testing makes sure you teach what they want. So if relieved, its for your kids doing poorly on testing, not for teaching what they dont say to teach. With only 180 hours, should I make sure kids have down the 5 facts the state says, or those 5 plus my 8 more that tell the rest of the story? (I do the more, but then, may be a bit crazy for teaching past what the state says).
At age 34, as a chaplain, naval officer, historian, and doctor of ministry, i find myself at times feeling like the old librarian in the Twilight Zone episode, who, because he is a librarian and speaks of the past and of faith, is put on trial and found to be "no longer useful". Ah! There it is, The Obsolete Man! Well worth the look.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Obsolete_Man
Maybe if we emphasized social studies in schools, instead of relegating them to 4th place behind math and science (not hating on math and science, i hold a B.S. from Georgia Tech) and making them collateral duties for sports coaches, we wouldnt have the problems we do in this country?
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It would be a good start.
Provided, of course it is not taught in the doubletalk of the Leftist view.
Provided, of course it is not taught in the doubletalk of the Leftist view.
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SFC Casey O'Mally
SSG Roger Ayscue yes. And no.
It is in the best LONG-TERM interest of the nation to protect the interests of the individual. Once the rights of the individual no longer matter, then rights of groups of individuals are not far behind. Thus begins the slippery slope to atrocity.
While the movie "Hot Fuzz" is ridiculous (a good ridiculous, mind you) and nothing approaching a documentary, it nonetheless carries the "greater good" utilitarian view which you are espousing to a logical end.
It is in the best interest of a collective for the individual to work to protect the collective, and the collective to work to protect the individual.
No one deserves a beat down for running. Attacking, sure. Not for merely running away, which is natural human instinct. If you are chased, you run. It is what just about all animals, to include humans, do. If being caught carries the consequence of a beat down, as you recommend, you run even harder.
Voting rights are not earned, nor should they be. Therein lies the path to discrimination. We used to have requirements to vote - literacy tests, poll taxes, and other methods which were specifically designed to ensure that only the "right" people voted. We got rid of that to make sure that everyone can vote. A simple proof of identity
/ citizenship should be the only requirement to vote.
And if there ARE requirements put in place to obtain eligibility, they cannot hinge upon utilization of government programs. The point of most of those programs is to help people out of a bad situation. Some of the programs are even more basic - designed to help people survive. You can't make people choose between survival and full citizenship.
It is in the best LONG-TERM interest of the nation to protect the interests of the individual. Once the rights of the individual no longer matter, then rights of groups of individuals are not far behind. Thus begins the slippery slope to atrocity.
While the movie "Hot Fuzz" is ridiculous (a good ridiculous, mind you) and nothing approaching a documentary, it nonetheless carries the "greater good" utilitarian view which you are espousing to a logical end.
It is in the best interest of a collective for the individual to work to protect the collective, and the collective to work to protect the individual.
No one deserves a beat down for running. Attacking, sure. Not for merely running away, which is natural human instinct. If you are chased, you run. It is what just about all animals, to include humans, do. If being caught carries the consequence of a beat down, as you recommend, you run even harder.
Voting rights are not earned, nor should they be. Therein lies the path to discrimination. We used to have requirements to vote - literacy tests, poll taxes, and other methods which were specifically designed to ensure that only the "right" people voted. We got rid of that to make sure that everyone can vote. A simple proof of identity
/ citizenship should be the only requirement to vote.
And if there ARE requirements put in place to obtain eligibility, they cannot hinge upon utilization of government programs. The point of most of those programs is to help people out of a bad situation. Some of the programs are even more basic - designed to help people survive. You can't make people choose between survival and full citizenship.
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Cpl Bill Johnson
SSG Roger Ayscue the rights of the the accused are the bedrock of law in this country. Apparently you missed that in your Constitutional law class. You had one of those when you were in law school, right?
Regarding the beating of a suspect because the cops had to chase them... I don't know what to say other than I hope no police agency ever gave you a badge.
Regarding the beating of a suspect because the cops had to chase them... I don't know what to say other than I hope no police agency ever gave you a badge.
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The nice thing about the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution of the United States is they are very easy reads (well, up to Amendment 10). Also, Hillsdale College has FREE courses available on the Constitution. Check it out for yourself and pass along to your Soldiers, Sailors, Marines and Airmen https://www.hillsdale.edu/ Be sure to also check out the Federalist Papers at http://www.foundingfathers.info/federalistpapers/fedi.htm to find out what the Framers believed as they debated these important documents.
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PO3 Phyllis Maynard
TSgt (Join to see) I will check out the websites. I have ordered the Federalist Papers, the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, and one other book discussing the failure of the first Constitution Convention, the process through the eyes of Hamilton's Wife. The books are waiting for me at the post office
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Good to hear. One thing, we can NOT depend on our schools to have our children's best interests at heart, despite what you may hear in the media. WE must step up and teach our children about these and so many other things. It does NOT take a village to raise a child, it takes dedicated parents making time to teach them. Give your child a lifelong love of learning, and let them teach you.
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