Posted on Jun 4, 2015
SGT Darryl Allen
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Came across an interesting little cartoon that sheds an interesting light on a hotbed topic all over social media. What do you think of the concept of privilege? Do you think that people who are handed life on a silver platter are less deserving of their accomplishments than a person that starts off on the right side of this panel and ends up on the left?

Do you think that everyone that starts their life on the right side of the panel COULD make it to the left side with the right work ethic or are some people doomed to be on the right side forever?

http://thewireless.co.nz/articles/the-pencilsword-on-a-plate
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I will say that is this foolish. I am sternly against this class warfare. I have heard so many times that I grew up with a silver spoon in my mouth or that I don't understand what it was like to be poor. I understood it better than they did. That is why I am not that way anymore. My father came to the US and didn't speak any English. He didn't let that stop him. He is pretty well off now. I didn't realize I was poor until one day we were going to school and we found our station wagon on cinder blocks. My wife thought I was joking when I took her to my old house. But I had one thing that all of them lack, Ambition. My ambition far exceeds all of those that only complain about this. Not everyone who is rich is born rich. Some work hard. They get up at 5 am to get to work so they could get to their second job by noon, so they they could go to college at night. That is what I am talking about. I joined the military because I really didn't see a way attain my goals where I was at. I stepped out of my comfort zone. To many are to cowardly to do that. They want to get money on their terms. I heard it when I was a manager. I am tired of those who think they are disenfranchised. I had a guy tell me that I got everything handed to me thanks to the military. I let him know that served my country in Iraq twice and earned what I have. He could do it too but he was too cowardly to try. Back to my point that they have no ambition. They want money and to party on the weekend but they don't want to wake up early and stay up late to better themselves. For that they will always be where they are at and complaining how it is not their fault.
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Sgt Jay Jones
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The problem is not the two families scenarios as depicted. The true issue is how are those families and children perceived by society. If the teacher believes that the family on the right is less deserving she may not put on as much effort as she would with the family on the left. I am a firm believer in the Pygmalion Effect. If some believes in you, you rise to their expectations.

We also have to remember there is no guarantee for success. How many times have you seen children from good homes and great parents turn out horrible, while some from the most deplorable conditions excel.

Basically being a parent is a crapshoot!
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Cpl Jeff N.
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We have equality of opportunity not equality of outcome here. Anyone can make it from a tough start to a good life, maybe not to the very top but some do. The cartoon is the "life isn't fair" scenario. If parents are not involved with their kids early and don't encourage them to get a good education of trade then they can get sideways quickly.

Knowing people can help but it is no silver bullet. You still have to perform in most cases. This is also classic class warfare technique. Lot's of people have it hard and do well. Life isn't just about how much money you make but we put a lot of focus on it these days.
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Cpl Jeff N.
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SGT Darryl Allen. This cartoon is making a large statement about our society and the opportunities it perceives some may or may not have. The cartoonist is being heavy handed with many stereotypes and uses them like a hammer to try to make points about how unfair we are in the west.

You want to cherry pick this and use all of the elements on the person on the right in the worst possible light. Those people on the left owe you nothing, you owe them nothing. If you want it, go get it. Don't sit back and allow people to make excuses about what they have or don't have or what they can attain or not.

You might want to check your crime statistics. I didn't say there was no crime in the depression but it was nothing like it is these days.
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SGT Darryl Allen
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CPT (Join to see) Family of 4 = Dad, Mom, and 2 kids, but I'm with you there too. I'm in the same boat, I've been married 3 years and I have 0 kids (not for my wife's lack of trying) and I'm doing everything I can to keep it that way until I feel that I'm ready to take on that responsibility. Some people don't have the foresight to plan their lives out the way others do, but I still think they deserve to live good lives, perhaps not with all the creature comforts that those of us who plan meticulously enjoy, but at least well enough that they don't have to hate their lives. I mean is it so awful for parents to want to take their kids to Disney, or buy them birthday/christmas gifts AND still have a house to come back to? I think everybody deserves that (although if they're wasting money on excess luxuries that COULD be saved for those things, well, then I've got no sympathy for you).
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SGT Darryl Allen
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Cpl Jeff N. Homicide rate is at a 100 year low, property crime (burglary, larceny, etc) is at a 40 year low (and I couldn't actually find any good statistics prior to 1960 for those), while the population of this country has tripled since the Great Depression. We're doing a damn good job with crime in this country these days, despite what the media would have us all believe.

Now if we could do something about the billions of dollars we throw into the prison system to keep offenders of marijuana related crimes, maybe we could help people that actually need it.
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SGT Darryl Allen That is where we differ. I don't think we are entitled to anything. There were many times where I didn't do much of a vacation. Should every kid be entitled to a trip to disney? It would be nice but not realistic.
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