Do you believe that Sharia Law is compatible with our Constitution?

2014-09-24T21:19:49-04:00

I want to know whether anyone believes that Islam in America demanding Sharia Law will work in America with our Constitution and Bill of Rights. With the growing Muslim population (both legally and illegally) and all of the special treatment they get regarding their religion as compared to any other in America are you worried about whether our Constitution will survive?

Response by PO1 Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 24 at 2014 9:47 PM

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Nope. Can't. Sharia law insists that anyone that is not a Muslim be given a choice - either convert or die. And that's the beginning......

Response by Maj Matt Hylton made Sep 24 at 2014 9:53 PM

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Sharia Law is incompatible with democracy in general. Authoritarian rule works just fine for establishing laws based solely on religious principles. The US Constitution prohibits the making of any law establishing a national religion and many tenants of Sharia Law fly in the face of basic rights granted by our constitution.

Response by SSG Pete Fleming made Sep 24 at 2014 10:07 PM

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Sharia Law is not compatible with the laws of nature much less in a 'civilized' society.

Response by SPC David S. made Sep 24 at 2014 10:22 PM

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I couldn't imagine two forms of law more juxtaposed. On appeal by Refah party in Turkey that was banned and dissolved by the Turkey government the European Court of Human Rights determined that "sharia is incompatible with the fundamental principles of democracy" Refah's sharia-based notion of a "plurality of legal systems, grounded on religion" was ruled to contravene the European Convention for the Protection of Human Rights and Fundamental Freedoms. It was determined that it would "do away with the State's role as the guarantor of individual rights and freedoms" and "infringe the principle of non-discrimination between individuals as regards their enjoyment of public freedoms, which is one of the fundamental principles of democracy". Couldn't agree more.

Response by PO1 Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 25 at 2014 12:00 AM

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I'll be shocked if anyone agrees with compatibility. Being a Christian myself, I remember reading in the Bible about being unequally yoked, which has infiltrated this country all the way to the core. Yoking, excuse me, ATTEMPTING to yoke American democratic laws with Sharia dictatorship is IMPOSSIBLE.

PS: I'm forever grateful to the nation where its citizens love freedom far more than dictatorship, and are committed to defend it with far greater success than its adversaries.

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 25 at 2014 7:53 AM

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I deleted my original comment because it was too deep in legalese.

Incompatible is a tall order. I'll let it suffice to say Islam is not necessarily Sharia, and religions are protected under the First Amendment and the Religious Freedom Restoration Act.

Response by PO2 Rocky Kleeger made Sep 26 at 2014 1:55 PM

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Sharia is compatible, only with Sharia law

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 28 at 2014 4:28 PM

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Sharia law can mean two things. To many Muslims, it means simply living their lives in accordance with the Koran. To almost everyone else (including the remainder of Muslims) it means living under a society governed by Koranic law. I think it's important to look at both meanings independently.

If the former, how is that different from an individual saying they live according to the Bible? As long as they make no requirements on others to explicitly conform to their beliefs, there is little to worry about with this version of "sharia law."

If the latter, though, such is wholly incompatible not only with the Constitution, but with democracy itself and with freedom in general. A Government bound to religious edict is never going to be reconcilable with democratic and enlightenment ideals, and will always end up coercive and barbaric toward the governed populace. This is true whether it is Islam, Christianity, Judaism, Hinduism, or even Atheism. When the Government tells people what they may believe and subscribes what is appropriate based only on a set of beliefs, everyone loses.

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 29 at 2014 11:24 AM

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If free people want to live in an area and be ruled by a Sharia judge I'm fine with that as long as people who don't want to be ruled by it are not forced to do so and those under it can appeal their cases to the regular system.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 29 at 2014 12:04 PM

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No I don't, period. There's my answer. I refuse to live under any rule that says I have to believe in a certain religion or face death.

Response by Lt Col Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 29 at 2014 2:15 PM

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I find it highly incompatible with the constitution and our way of life. Now if they want to practice shira law in spirit i.e. not eating pork and being compelled to due the 5 pillars than have at it. But if the intent were to try to run a parallel judicial system based off this law than NO! I can't see where you have certain rights afforded to you in the US that would be allowed in such a kangaroo court. Sharia law allows for the murder of wives from their husbands in the name of family honor. The execution of apostates. Corporal punishment for minor infractions of the Koran.

I could go on and on. The Sharia law goes with the constitution like gasoline and water with a lit match.

No they should not get any special treatment on this matter other than what is consistent with the free practices of other religions.

Response by MAJ Robert (Bob) Petrarca made Sep 29 at 2014 3:43 PM

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Everyone today is bitching about the word "God" in our government and Sharia Law is God and the government as one. I don't think so.

Response by PO1 Steven Kuhn made Sep 29 at 2014 8:20 PM

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I have been voted down twice on this topic by a person named hidden. I cannot reply to them or see their reply. I post these questions not to offend anyone, but to engage people who have served and (in my opinion) have a sense of integrity and honor their opinion on issues facing us today. Mr or Mrs Hidden, whoever you are, I would appreciate the ability to see and converse with those who would vote me down. I do not begrudge the fact that you voted me down, but I do not appreciate the fact that like the murderers who butchered those poor reporters recently you lack the courage to post your identity or show your face. Maybe you are not from around here, but you have the right to freedom of speech as do I. You also have the right to hide your identity......one just might wonder why! Have a good day "Hidden".

Response by MSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 29 at 2014 11:30 PM

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Simple answer "Hell No"!

Response by PO1 William "Chip" Nagel made Oct 1 at 2014 12:05 PM

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Nope, that is why I love the Separation of Church and State that is written into our Constitution and 1st Amendment. I don't want anyone's interpretation of what they're "God" told them dictating "My Government".

Response by SSgt Bob Christensen made Oct 2 at 2014 11:39 AM

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Not only NO, but HELL NO!

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 3 at 2014 8:12 AM

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The bill of rights is in direct violation of Sharia law. The US constitution will last as long as brave men and women are willing to fight for it, but not a second longer.

Response by 1LT(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 3 at 2014 1:12 PM

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PO1 Steven Kuhn to answer your question, no. Sharia Law does not allow for complete freedom of religion as our Constitution does, so it is not compatible on that basis alone.

However, I'm not sure that they get "special treatment" compared to any other religion. I have several Muslim friends, and they are simply good people. They were born in America, yet they often experience extreme prejudice at the hands of many of our fellow Americans who can't or won't distinguish between a normal Muslim and the radicals they see beheading people on television.

I am disheartened every time I see or hear of some of my ignorant countrymen and women talking about Muslims as if they are all radical terrorists or that they all want Sharia Law (not directed at you btw). The truth is that the vast majority of Muslims are normal people just like us. But back to my original point: I think it seems like they get "special" treatment because the media (and Americans in general) make a bigger deal about anything remotely controversial that happens involving a Muslim community in the United States.

Lastly, anyone that seriously thinks that the country is being taken over by Muslims or that there is a possibility of the United States being ruled by Sharia Law is out of their minds. With all due respect.

Response by TSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 3 at 2014 1:47 PM

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Constitutionally speaking, it is illegal under any circumstance to allow a state religion of any kind here in the United States. It is also illegal to prevent the free exercise of religion. I have not been able to really check it out, but I believe the only time prohibitions exist is when certain religious practices are incompatible with existing civil law, such as offering a human sacrifice or blood atonement for a sin. Like ancient Jewish laws, Sharia demands literal death when certain religious laws are broken. We do not observe such laws here in the US because U.S. civil law recognizes death under those circumstances as murder, which demands capital punishment in some states, or a very long prison sentence.

Response by SSgt James Stanley made Oct 3 at 2014 2:56 PM

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Sharia Law is not compatible with our Constitution or any part of our country. My belief is that if the Muslims want Sharia Law they should go back where they came from where it's already practiced.

Response by MSG Brad Sand made Oct 3 at 2014 5:52 PM

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No.

For more reasons than I care to list.

Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 3 at 2014 6:55 PM

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PO1 Steven Kuhn - No freaking way!

Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 3 at 2014 10:18 PM

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Maj Matt Hylton There always to be a Muslim apologist in every group who think they know something we don't.

Response by CMSgt James Nolan made Oct 3 at 2014 10:42 PM

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PO1 Steven Kuhn Watch this video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xiKudoZhXc This really happened in California

I guess this is why America is a great place to live, because everyone is entitled to an opinion?

Islamic Society of Orange County Town Hall, Sharia and the Constitution - Waters

On February 19, 2012 a public townhall meeting took place at the Islamic Society of Orange County, California. Present were several dignitaries. Here are the...

Response by Cpl Ray Fernandez made Oct 4 at 2014 3:39 AM

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No, I do not feel it is compatible. When the US Constitution is treated as being equal or secondary to any other legal system then it loses it's value and protections. Our freedoms that the Constitution were intended to be bestowed on man by a force more powerful than government which was intentional because anything granted by the government can be taken away by government. Sharia law is incompatible based on the punishments and power it gives to the authority over man.

Response by SSgt Christopher "TEX" F. made Oct 4 at 2014 4:41 AM

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My response is not a personal attack on you PO1 Steven Kuhn, but simply my observations of our society in regards to Islam.

First....No...It's not compatible.

Next. I'll probably catch hell for this, but....they can take their Sharia Law and "stick it where the sun don't shine"! The day they show at my door to enforce Sharia Law is the day they find out what, qty/sz/cal, is hidden behind door #1! I have had it with our society caving to all of these little Islamic demands! Look at where it's gotten Great Britain....take a hint! I have spent a bit of time over there in my travels and they have turned that country into their own little cesspool of personal bidding!

And the argument of "it will only affect the Muslim community" won't work, because that was the original intent in GB and now it's starting to fester and spill out of the Muslim community, into the other areas of GB, little-by-little! They are [never] satisfied with control of just their own, they must control all others! Genghis Khan once said, "It is not sufficient that I succeed – all others must fail".

So let the hate mail begin. Know this....I held my tongue for ten years of service and I don't intend on holding it any longer! I say what [many] others are afraid to because of [perceived] social standings/circles and respect for the Muslims! So, if you are the type of person who caters to, or entertains the notion of, Sharia Law, or defends people who do....I don't need your social circles/standings and I don't fear Sharia Law! I refuse to be a sheep!

They don't respect you, your women, your rights or your freedom!

So, there you have my stance on it! Peace out!

Response by SPC Richard White made Oct 4 at 2014 4:54 AM

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Our Constitution will survive.As Isoroku Yamamoto put it You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.Islam does have a foothold in America but it will not dominate.Sharia Law is not compatible with our Bill of rights or Constitution.

Response by SFC William Swartz Jr made Oct 4 at 2014 8:19 AM

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NO! Next question....

Response by Pvt Diane Pownall made Oct 4 at 2014 9:56 AM

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No. Not at all. It gives the husband the right to beat his wife. Totally unacceptable.

Response by Lt Col Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 4 at 2014 10:00 AM

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Clearly not. The constitution demands separation of church and state. Sharia law asserts that religion IS the state.

Response by LTC Mark Gavula made Oct 4 at 2014 10:06 AM

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There is no compatibility between sharia law and our Constitution and Bill of Rights. I do think that certain sects forget that we are a nation of laws, and our elected leaders and appointed judges need to stop reading between the lines of our laws and cease creating grey areas that are open for interpretation. They need or we need to stop electing people that say anything for a vote but stand for nothing. I am skeptical that this will not happen in the near future. I regret saying, but this won't change until a catastrophic event that directly impacts these people. Then, will ask, how and why this could happen in our country. If they, don't ask this, they will want to place blame. Of course, George W. Bush will be the fall guy.

Response by SGT Thomas Lucken made Oct 4 at 2014 11:19 AM

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F--kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk No!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Response by PO2 Paul Kirby made Oct 4 at 2014 11:40 AM

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No. There are no religious "laws", of any sort, compatible with the Constitution. We're a republic, not a theocracy.

Response by CPT Ray Doeksen made Oct 4 at 2014 12:11 PM

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Why is this even a question? Is anyone at all... trying to push an agenda that claims it IS compatible? It seems to make about as much sense as asking "Do cats exist?"

Of course it isn't compatible ... they are different systems, based on entirely different premises.

Response by SFC Dr. Joseph Finck, BS, MA, DSS made Oct 4 at 2014 12:43 PM

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PO1 Steven Kuhn,

As it stands now, no. Many of the "punishments" under Sharia Law would violate State laws in the areas where the Muslim population resides and quite possibly be interpreted as violations of Civil Rights Laws by the Federal Government.

I do not fret the Constitution. There are many who will stand and fight if our feedoms become infringed upon.

SFC Joseph M. Finck USA (Ret)

Response by Cpl Dennis F. made Oct 4 at 2014 1:25 PM

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As compatible as Jane Fonda and I. As oil and water. As Madeline Murrey and the Pope. Ahhh... you get it.
What Constitution? It has effectively been neutered by legal work arounds. It has been an illusion for a few years now. All of your rights can be removed with the stroke of a pen.

Response by PFC Stephen Eric Serati made Oct 4 at 2014 2:21 PM

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No religious laws are compatible with our Constitution.Seperation of Church and State.

Response by CPT Jack Durish made Oct 4 at 2014 3:00 PM

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An interesting question, one bound to incite the passions as already demonstrated in other comments in this discussion thread. Obviously, the answer is yes and no. Yes, Muslims may voluntarily submit to Sharia while residing in the United States. However, it is not enforceable in US courts and it may not be used as a defense in any criminal action. For example, a Muslim who commits murder as sanctioned by Sharia cannot escape punishment under US law.

Now that is as impassionate a response as I can make as a legal scholar. As a human being committed to defending, preserving, and protecting the Constitution, I am suspicious of any who advocate supplanting it with Sharia. They skirt dangerously close to being an enemy of the Constitution and should be put on notice that we will not tolerate any such attempt.

Response by A1C Michael David Severson made Oct 4 at 2014 4:30 PM

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Absolutely NOT!!!

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 4 at 2014 6:00 PM

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As has been stated several times here, Sharia law is not compatible with Constitutional law.

Someone recently asked me what I thought about my state's vote on a law banning Sharia law from being enforced. My answer was that by virtue of what Sharia law is, it is already banned, and that politicians are wasting time and money on something that has zero affect on us. It is only a ploy to garner votes.

Response by CW5 Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 4 at 2014 6:59 PM

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I think our Constitution will survive, but I think it's sad that your question is probably a valid one. How in the world does Sharia law threaten our country? It shouldn't, but I can see how it might ... all in the name of "tolerance" and political correctness. You ask a great question, in my opinion, and our political leaders - the folks we elect to represent us - will have to answer the question as we go forward.

Response by TSgt Scott Hurley made Oct 4 at 2014 9:21 PM

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Sharia law and the Constitution are NOT compatible!!!! I have done some research and I found that the Muslim Holy book the Koran or Quran, began as a peaceful religion in Mecca. When the second part of the book was revealed, it was in Medina. Its that second revelation that turned it from a peaceful religion to a violent and intolerant religion. And that is about the time that Sharia law was enacted. Muslims claim that the Koran and sharia law are non-compromising and can not change. BS, it can to by the way people act and interpret it. We are 2000 years better educated and the Koran, Sharia law, the Torah, and the Bible are not absolute.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 4 at 2014 10:38 PM

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No, no, no and did I say NO! SSG Pete Fleming is dead on!

Response by SPC Paul Shene III made Oct 4 at 2014 11:25 PM

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Religious based laws (as opposed to laws that have clear material basis) are antithetical to a free republic. As an atheist I view religion, especially Abrahamic ones as toxic psychoses that should be treated as dangerous.

It wasn't atheists burning women at the stake or fighting the crusades, and it isn't the atheists beheading infidels. Those atrocities were done by the religious.

Response by 1LT Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 4 at 2014 11:25 PM

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A big overwhelming no. Shariah law minus the banking has penalties for crimes that involved murder and other means which are illegal. Finally, US laws supersede foreign laws. States are already clamping down on this to ban at both a state and fed level.

Shariah Law may work there when culturally, every country there hates one another and is an artificial construct post Ottoman Empire and WW2. To rule some of those countries and areas where it is a revenge tribal based society, a heavy hand seems to be needed.

Response by Cpl Chris Rice made Oct 4 at 2014 11:40 PM

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What is Sharia Law

A quick and simple definition of the Sharia law is a prophetic law derived from the writings of the Quran, and Sunna. The actual rules and interpretations of the types of laws required by “Sharia Law” is not at all standard. Before the introduction of western colonial powers into the middle east the use of these laws were mostly to through the local community, and since they did not have judges, or courts is one of the reasons that so many of these odd requirements and punishments exist. For example the requirement that two eye witnesses be present to punish somebody for theft.

After the introduction of the western legal systems we see an attempt to move these laws to a legal system. Like most indigenous populations the introduction of these systems has sustained a conservative movement within the religion, and political frameworks that has pushed for the de-westernization. This can be seen in Iran, and Saudi Arabia whom both practice the conservative forms of the Sharia Law. Other nations have accepted westernization, and have abandoned the Sharia style laws for a completely new system of laws such as Turkey.

The most striking the situation is the harsh punishments for the breaking certain laws, most notably the haram sexual laws which are similar to those of the other Abrahamic faiths, but are actually carried out in the modern era. These things include adultery, homosexuality, and premarital sex carrying the punishment of death. Finally the most important and unfortunately not always followed provision of Sharia Law is that all non-Muslim people are to exempt from the any provisions of the laws. It was not meant for the use as national legal framework.

Where is Sharia Law really creeping into the United States?

A recent poll of North Carolinian's found that 34% of respondents would favor the establishment of Christianity as the state religion. Further to the west in the State of Oklahoma Mr. Scott Esk a candidate for the State House of Representatives actually advocated for the stoning of homosexuals in June. Further we have a large amount of candidates who display dominionism in the way they wish to appoint or only consent to appointments of Judges, and secular office holders by mandating a religious test.

While in the general definition and in the statement most people would say they are against Sharia Law, but the implementation, and protection of corporal punishments in schools (19 States still allow this practice), the push for school sanctioned prayer, and demands that the public school system teach only subjects that are parallel to the popular religion are Sharia like laws practiced in our education system today. Do I think that the people who push these laws are as bad as the Prince of Saudi Arabia? No, absolutely not, but removing the action from a word and then searching for that action shows that Islamic Americans are not the true threat to the separation of Church and State, but that Christians as the majority are.
Until recently the practice of religion and the administration of the government have always been a subject that groups have pushed, but until recently the Supreme Court of the United States has blocked or reversed these attempts, but with the recent Hobby Lobby decision it may be debatable as to the ways that the court will rule in future determinations.

The Original Question.

Does Sharia Law fall inside or outside of the U.S. Constitution; both inside and out, much like Biblical law. Sharia within the family with the expectation of the separation of interference by the Government in the practice of their religion is well protected, and does fall under the U.S. Constitution. These things include patriarchy, discipline of children, education of children, financial management, and manner of foods eaten. Also the contract of marriage for a Muslim couple is much different than that of a Non-Muslim couple making the rules for dissolution much different, and highly variable. These in so far as all persons consent to their practice is acceptable and protected under the Constitution. Practices in the middle east of female circumcision are terrible and should never be permissible in the United States.

I say look at the provision that is being called Sharia law, and consider it independent of the word. Simply saying that we have sharia law because the school district with the large Muslim population offers a halal compliant lunch at school, or that the only head covering allowed in the court room is hajab does not constitute Sharia Law. Look at the politicians who fought the installation of a foot washing basin, to find out it was meant clean the mops the custodians used….

Response by SSgt Donnie West made Oct 5 at 2014 12:15 AM

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I will have to agree to some degree; here's why; and no it is not in accordance with our laws here but some of those laws I do agree with such as crime. rape, murder, theft, and other major crimes are dealt with on a different level. you rape kids or murder someone. you are put to death within weeks and I like that. I think crime will stop overnight here in this country and that's very effective. the problem is that we have too many people and companies making money off of the justice system. we have too many criminals that are walking the streets because of flaws and loopholes in our judicial system. so some of the sharia law I do support when it comes to crimes committed. that's just my take on it.

Response by COL George Antochy made Oct 5 at 2014 12:32 AM

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The United States was founded upon the principles contained in both our Declaration of Independence and our Constitution and the Bill of Rights (1st 10 Amendments). We are granted the freedom of religion. We can chose to believe or not believe in a deity, worship or not worship, we have no National Church. This is contrary to Sharia Law, which dictates a religion and how to worship, and punishments for deviations. Though the Equal Rights Amendment never passed, in the United States all citizens, men, women, all races and all ethnicity's are equal in front of the law. This is contrary to Sharia Law. No Sharia Law can not exist in the United States as long as we preserve our Constitution. No Nation can be governed by multiple legal foundations and still remain one Nation.

Response by SPC Paul Shene III made Oct 5 at 2014 1:48 AM

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No. Sharia law requires a totalitarian form of rule to operate. Our constitution works best in a secular environment.

Response by CPL Steven Neice made Oct 5 at 2014 1:58 AM

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Response by Cpl Glynis Sakowicz made Oct 5 at 2014 11:16 AM

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Sharia law is not compatable because it treats women as if they are beneath comtempt. Come on now... try telling your wives or girl friends that they need to wear burkas, that they can't drive, or have a say in the government... that you are allowed to beat them whenever you see fit, and if they are raped, they are required to have men who WITNESS the crime come forward... otherwise, they are probably going to be charged for the crime they suffered, and stoned, hanged or otherwise 'taught' that women don't complain about men...
Not going to happen to this woman, as long as I have a gun safe.

Response by LCpl Steve Wininger made Oct 5 at 2014 2:19 PM

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From what I have read and understand about Sharia law, is it is in no way, shape, or form compatible with the Constitution. Under the current president, and his attempts at shredding the constitution, I am definitely concerned.

There seems to be an all-out war on Christianity in America. Sharia law would essentially make being a Christian illegal, and those who are caught practicing it would be put to death.

I am amazed that the Atheists concentrate so much on attacking Christianity when there are other religions taking hold in America that would essentially put Atheists in the same category as Christians.

After all, anyone caught denying or speaking out against the Quran or Mohammad are put to death. Show me in the bible where Christianity teaches that.

Yes ladies and gentlemen, I am a bit worried because we have a president that has Muslim roots, even though he claims he is a Christian to the certain demographics.

Response by Pvt Diane Pownall made Oct 5 at 2014 2:30 PM

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No. Separation of Church and State.

Response by SGT Quinn Reels made Oct 6 at 2014 5:58 AM

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no it will not just like we can not live by the old testiment

Response by Sgt Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 6 at 2014 10:21 AM

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Aristotle is quoted as saying: "The Law is reason Free from passion." As such, and due to the very basic principles that this nation and its constitution were founded upon, there is not only no room for Sharia Law, but there is no room for ANY 'Laws' that are mandated by any religious principles. These United States came into existence for many reasons, one of which was the pursuit of religious freedom. If religious tyranny (study Sharia Law if this phrase concerns you) is to rear its ugly head to Americans once again, it should be met with the swiftest and fiercest judgment.

***DISCLAIMER***
I am not in any way anti-religion. I think believing in something greater than one's self is good for the soul.

Response by SPC Napoleon Ebarle made Oct 6 at 2014 12:29 PM

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No it is not. By definition, Sharia law abrogates the Constitution. The Koran becomes the law of the land and on that basis, justice is defined as that which the Koran prescribes. The so-called religion of peace will impose "peace" on the population - the absence of opposition to their faith.

May God - the one who gave us the right to choose whether or not to serve Him, even to oppose Him - continue to bless and protect our people.

Response by Cpl Matthew Wall made Oct 6 at 2014 12:32 PM

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Sharia Law is not compatible with the Constitution. Now if all the sudden Sharia Law changes then maybe, but as it stands now, no it does not.

According to the Sharia law:

• Theft is punishable by amputation of the right hand.
• Criticizing or denying any part of the Quran is punishable by death.
• Criticizing or denying Muhammad is a prophet is punishable by death.
• Criticizing or denying Allah, the moon god of Islam is punishable by death.
• A Muslim who becomes a non-Muslim is punishable by death.
• A non-Muslim who leads a Muslim away from Islam is punishable by death.
• A non-Muslim man who marries a Muslim woman is punishable by death.
• A man can marry an infant girl and consummate the marriage when she is 9 years old.
• Girls' clitoris should be cut (per Muhammad's words in Book 41, Kitab Al-Adab, Hadith 5251).
• A woman can have 1 husband, but a man can have up to 4 wives; Muhammad can have more.
• A man can unilaterally divorce his wife but a woman needs her husband's consent to divorce.
• A man can beat his wife for insubordination.
• Testimonies of four male witnesses are required to prove rape against a woman.
• A woman who has been raped cannot testify in court against her rapist(s).
• A woman's testimony in court, allowed only in property cases, carries half the weight of a man's.
• A female heir inherits half of what a male heir inherits.
• A woman cannot drive a car, as it leads to fitnah (upheaval).
• A woman cannot speak alone to a man who is not her husband or relative.
• Meat to be eaten must come from animals that have been sacrificed to Allah - i.e., be Halal.
• Muslims should engage in Taqiyya and lie to non-Muslims to advance Islam.

-http://www.billionbibles.org/sharia/sharia-law.html

SHARIA LAW - Islamic Sharia Law Explained

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Response by SMSgt Kevin Connair made Oct 6 at 2014 1:19 PM

2014-10-06T13:19:21-04:00

Sharia law is by design incompatible with individual liberty, and therefore incompatible with any governmental system which embraces the same - especially our representative republic as blueprinted by the US Constitution - the one we all take an oath to defend against all enemies, foreign and domestic. For a further understanding of why sharia is incompatible with our Constitution, see: http://www.politicalislam.com

Response by Cpl Brett Wagner made Oct 6 at 2014 2:31 PM

2014-10-06T14:31:44-04:00

Ugh! No, however we do not enforce our own laws now. Also congress would be exempt.

Response by MSgt Chris Adams made Oct 6 at 2014 6:41 PM

2014-10-06T18:41:45-04:00

Simple answer, No

Response by SSG Gerhard S. made Oct 6 at 2014 7:23 PM

2014-10-06T19:23:33-04:00

Clearly Sharia is NOT even on the same track as our Constitution. Totally incompatible. That being said, the Affordable Care Act, the misnamed Patriot Act, and Social Security are also not congruent with the principles or anticipated scope of our Constitution.

Response by PO1 Steven Kuhn made Oct 8 at 2014 7:24 AM

2014-10-08T07:24:39-04:00

They are already demanding it in Michigan, and Florida and have held protests against our Constitution and for Hamas. Also, with the intentionally unsecured borders, illegal aliens pouring into our country with diseases the CDC has not seen in decades, and the radical Muslims sneaking across couple with the amnesty being granted to them I think it is a definite concern. We have had to take our American flag down in several areas because it offended other citizens! If they were true citizens, they would not be offended!

Response by SN James Monks made Oct 12 at 2014 12:21 PM

2014-10-12T12:21:43-04:00

If they want sharia law then they need to go back to their countries of origin. We no more recognize sharia, than they do the constitution. And to try to "make" it work is asinine. Some thing just don't mix.

Response by TSgt Charles Holmes made Oct 15 at 2014 5:45 PM

2014-10-15T17:45:39-04:00

Not on your life. Or mine.

Response by CSM Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 19 at 2014 12:59 PM

2014-10-19T12:59:45-04:00

Are we seriously considering this for rational intelligent discussion? Its like discussing whether beating your wife or harming children is compatible with the Constitution under the guise of Religion. Religious practice in not above or outside of the Law, nor is it free from the scrutiny and outlaw of any type of law that is convoluted by the twisting of religious ideology. There is absolutely nothing that is lawful about Sharia Law...nothing.

Response by CPT Ray Doeksen made Oct 31 at 2014 12:56 PM

2014-10-31T12:56:16-04:00

Article VI of the Constitution spells it out very clearly, that it is the supreme Law of the Land; there is no other source required or allowed.

"This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding."

That does it, right there: there is no room for any interpretation that allows for another source of law.

Response by LTC Stephen C. made Dec 12 at 2014 2:43 PM

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PO1 Steven Kuhn, the State of Alabama recently passed an amendment to the state constitution that prohibits foreign law being used to decide cases in Alabama courts and will be added to the Alabama Constitution. The amendment does not undermine the religious rights of Muslims or anyone else, but does prevent lawyers from arguing from Sharia law in an Alabama custody case, for example.

CPT Jack Durish, the State of Alabama did a preemptive strike.

Response by CPT Jack Durish made Dec 13 at 2014 11:37 AM

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This is a simple question with a highly complex set of answers. At some point you may find one or two aspects of my response seemingly disagreeable, but I beg your indulgence. Please read the whole thing before you judge it or me...

There is a fundamental difference between the legal basis of Sharia law and American law forming an abyss that cannot be bridged. (I cannot speak to the laws of other nations, but Europeans and British citizens may find some similarities.) That being said, there are some aspects of Sharia law which may be enforceable in US courts within a very limited scope.

First, the fundamental difference... America and its Constitution are steeped in Judeo-Christian ethics that all people have inalienable rights that make them self-governing. Islam does not accept these. In its view, people cannot govern themselves and must necessarily be governed by others, principally clerics. For example, they believe that men cannot resist certain temptations which is why women are blamed when men succumb to their baser instincts. There is no accommodation that could ever reconcile these fundamental differences. Americans will be held accountable for their transgressions regardless of the temptations. That being said, it is clear that the principles of the Declaration of Independence are an anathema to a Muslim. Likewise, it is clear that the fundamental rights protected under the Bill of Rights, the first ten amendments to the Constitution, could never be acceptable to a Muslim.

How then do Muslims live in the United States and exist as both devout adherents to their faith and good citizens? The answer is simple: They can't. Those who live in America are breaking either Sharia or American laws. Thus, Muslims who live a law-abiding American citizens are apostates to truly devout Muslims.

In the beginning, I said that, despite the foregoing, it might be possible for some aspects of Sharia law to be enforceable in American courts. I believe that is true. For example, some aspects of Sharia law apply to commercial contracts and are different that American laws that are traditionally applicable to contracts. Indeed, contract laws may vary from state-to-state in the United States. Thus, when two parties residing in different states enter into a contract, they may specify as part of the contract as to which state's laws shall be used in interpreting the contract in the event of a dispute. Likewise, they may specify special provisions to their contract which may be applicable to their transaction so long as they do not violate criminal laws in either state. I see no reason why two American Muslims (or any American who chose to do so) could not specify to have Sharia law applied by a court or arbitrator in the even of a dispute given the same restrictions.

I'm sure some legal scholars will take exception to my comments or otherwise "fine tune" them. I'd love to hear their points of view.

Response by LTC W. H. "Wally" Wallace made Dec 15 at 2014 9:14 AM

2014-12-15T09:14:30-05:00

Give me a break. In no way is it compatible and yet we are bowing down to any thing that is Islam because of our Muslin President.

Response by CPT Aaron Kletzing made Dec 24 at 2014 5:50 PM

2014-12-24T17:50:24-05:00

No. Sharia Law and our Constitution don't get along very well.

Response by SFC Collin McMillion made Jan 8 at 2015 7:51 PM

2015-01-08T19:51:28-05:00

Simple answer........NO!!!!!

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 11 at 2015 1:12 AM

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NO! I have daughters and I served in Afghanistan and Iraq. If any man try to treat my daughters as those females under shiria, I will beat them down. Open the door and oppression will follow.

Response by SGT Erik Prano made Jan 11 at 2015 6:37 PM

2015-01-11T18:37:35-05:00

Absolutely not

Response by SSG (ret) William Martin made Jan 11 at 2015 6:47 PM

2015-01-11T18:47:46-05:00

I just did a Google search in reference to Sharia law in the U.S. and many U.S. judges have already been throwing out cases or ruling against Sharia law involving either a business deal or something to do with family. So individuals who believe they fall under Sharia law are finding out in court in the U.S. that Sharia law doesn't amount to squat when it violates already established laws of the land.

Response by SGT Steven Eugene Kuhn MBA made Jan 11 at 2015 6:57 PM

2015-01-11T18:57:53-05:00

Simply put, this is a question that has an obvious answer and requires absolutely no argument:
We base our laws and the way we treat our citizens on high moral values. Sharia is the exact opposite...period.

Response by SSG Tim Everett made Jan 11 at 2015 10:00 PM

2015-01-11T22:00:44-05:00

I'm not going to scroll through every response but I am a bit curious if anyone said "yeah sure, it can work!"

Response by Sgt Mike Boland made Jan 13 at 2015 7:55 AM

2015-01-13T07:55:14-05:00

Not just no but HELL no!

Response by CW4 Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 13 at 2015 7:58 AM

2015-01-13T07:58:53-05:00

Seriously??

Response by Sgt Mike Boland made Jan 13 at 2015 12:28 PM

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**BREAKING NEWS* * Hamas and Isis have surrendered their weapons after the 77 virgins, that will be provided by Allah upon their death, started posting selfies

Response by SSG Christopher Parrish made Jan 13 at 2015 3:38 PM

2015-01-13T15:38:27-05:00

No, they are in no way compatible. There have been many in America who would love to see her demise, and many have made a concerted effort to do just that. I believe that they will see this as an opportunity to further that cause. They don't seem to be able to see far enough in to the future of what a US under Sharia Law would look like exactly, even though there are numerous examples around the World to use for a glimpse.

I don't think, I pray, it would never come to that here. We do have a majority in America who would not stand for that. Right now, that majority is very silent but I fear the day they scream out in opposition to this. I feel that if that day were to come, we would see another version of the revolutionary war. And I hate the idea of having to try to overthrow the government of the US, there would be no victors.

Response by SFC Collin McMillion made Jan 15 at 2015 12:29 AM

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I must admit I am very angry over everyone who comes to the US trying to change our Constitution. Just this year here in Stafford, Texas the schools were told to no longer use "Christmas Vacation", just holiday or winter break. Come on now, us get serious, our country was conceived and built on our beliefs, not theirs.

Response by COL Ted Mc made Jan 15 at 2015 1:28 PM

2015-01-15T13:28:12-05:00

Before I respond, can you tell me WHICH VERSION of Sharia you are referring to?

Response by Sgt Vince P made Jan 17 at 2015 4:54 PM

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No I don't believe Sharia law should not used or even recognized by any Court in the US (this includes, Federal, State, Local or even by Native American on reservations). As said before the Muslim us the Sharia law to say they don't to comply with any law except there's.

Response by LTC David S. Chang, ChFC®, CLU® made Jan 17 at 2015 4:58 PM

2015-01-17T16:58:04-05:00

It cannot since Sharia law is based on a theocracy, not a democracy which the constitution is. You can't vote up or down elements of the Koran or add to it

Response by PFC Jason Moyer made Jan 17 at 2015 6:39 PM

2015-01-17T18:39:22-05:00

Hell no!!! Even if it was the constitution is the law of our country. Don't like it move back to the muzzie hell hole u came from

Response by SGT Steven Eugene Kuhn MBA made Feb 5 at 2015 3:34 PM

2015-02-05T15:34:47-05:00

First off, nice name!

Second off: It has nothing to do with belief, like oil and water.

Response by MSgt Michelle Mondia made Feb 7 at 2015 6:23 AM

2015-02-07T06:23:31-05:00

...Jewish law also isn't, I don't want think we should be forced to keep kosher and have two different refrigerators and ovens!

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 7 at 2015 6:49 AM

2015-02-07T06:49:26-05:00

My answer is not unique to Sharia Law. I don't believe that any law based solely on religious grounds is compatible with the Constitution or the basic principles of this country.

And honestly I don't know what all the fuss is about. Does anyone seriously expect to see the US operating under Sharia law in our lifetimes? Personally, I'm more concerned with the prospect of being subjected to laws based on Christianity.

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 28 at 2015 12:33 AM

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http://www.theblaze.com/blog/2015/02/27/6-eye-opening-things-you-might-not-have-known-about-islam-from-a-top-shariah-lawyer/

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 28 at 2015 5:01 PM

2015-02-28T17:01:48-05:00

It cannot be.

The courts system in Sharia is completely different--there are no lawyers (bad thing?) plaintiffs and defendants represent themselves, there are no juries--only a judge who's word is final and is not based on codified statute--only that judge's understanding of the issue and Islamic teaching at that time--precedents aren't binding even on the judge who made the ruling. There is no discover, no cross-examination, no perjury. Oral evidence has a higher priority than written or documentary evidence and eyewitness testimony over forensic evidence. It takes the testimony of four or more women to counter the testimony of one man. Those employed as servants or who are slaves may not testify at all against someone of a higher station.

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 28 at 2015 6:09 PM

2015-02-28T18:09:52-05:00

No!!!!!!!!!!

Response by MAJ Matthew Arnold made Sep 28 at 2015 1:42 AM

2015-09-28T01:42:04-04:00

No, sharia law is not compatible with the constitution. If someone wants sharia law they should go live where sharia law is the law and not push it on us. Go to Saudia Arabia, go to Samalia, and be happy. Don't go away mad, just go away! Sharia law has not place here in the USA.