Posted on Nov 15, 2019
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With all the talk in the recent weeks following the Army releasing the results of the diagnostic ACFT, the consensus seems to be that this new, gender neutral test, may in fact not be gender neutral.

The most failed event was the leg tuck and was failed overwhelmingly by female soldiers.

Is the Gold, Silver, Black standard set for Unit and MOS going to prevent gender integration into combat arms MOs’s?
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SFC Senior Brigade Career Counselor
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It won't stop anyone from entering into an MOS. The ACFT isn't used for accessing Soldiers, the OPAT is. The early data of troops currently in service is that 85% of females failed the leg tuck. But, later data shows that females in basic training are taking it and passing just fine. All it takes is training something that was never actively trained before.
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SSG Brian L.
SSG Brian L.
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And considering there are 5 reps in the climbing drill I would imagine that anyone with intentions of improving would either train this specifically or try to rely less on spotters this should improve and be fine by time the test matters.
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LTC Program Manager
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While the test is gender neutral, it is clear the genders are not equal in ability.

My fear is every time you change a standard, you end the careers of good troops.
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SSG Brian L.
SSG Brian L.
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One leg tuck? The low standard is very low. A good "troop" would put in the time to reinforce deficiencies.
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MAJ University Recruiting Liaison
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LTC (Join to see) - No, it doesn't end careers, but it may shift some to a different MOS. This change is long overdue. It reflects the realities of the battlefield.
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CSM Darieus ZaGara
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Whatever the test, all should be equal by MOS. Man or woman, should someone fail a requirment for MOSQ they should be reclassified. It is not fair to have separate satandards by gender.

I believe that all people should be able to compete for anything they want in life, I believe with that, it requires equality, that goes both ways. Thank you for your service.
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SGT Steve McFarland
SGT Steve McFarland
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Firefighters go through the same training, and have to perform to the same standards regardless of gender. I have met some tough ladies in the fire service.
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CSM Darieus ZaGara
CSM Darieus ZaGara
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No doubt, hence my point. SGT Steve McFarland
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MSG Wheeled Vehicle Mechanic
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Its crazy. Powers to be push gender equality but lower standards for one gender then, calling it equal.
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