Posted on Nov 15, 2019
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With all the talk in the recent weeks following the Army releasing the results of the diagnostic ACFT, the consensus seems to be that this new, gender neutral test, may in fact not be gender neutral.

The most failed event was the leg tuck and was failed overwhelmingly by female soldiers.

Is the Gold, Silver, Black standard set for Unit and MOS going to prevent gender integration into combat arms MOs’s?
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It won't stop anyone from entering into an MOS. The ACFT isn't used for accessing Soldiers, the OPAT is. The early data of troops currently in service is that 85% of females failed the leg tuck. But, later data shows that females in basic training are taking it and passing just fine. All it takes is training something that was never actively trained before.
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SSG Brian L.
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And considering there are 5 reps in the climbing drill I would imagine that anyone with intentions of improving would either train this specifically or try to rely less on spotters this should improve and be fine by time the test matters.
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CSM Darieus ZaGara
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Whatever the test, all should be equal by MOS. Man or woman, should someone fail a requirment for MOSQ they should be reclassified. It is not fair to have separate satandards by gender.

I believe that all people should be able to compete for anything they want in life, I believe with that, it requires equality, that goes both ways. Thank you for your service.
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SGT Steve McFarland
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Firefighters go through the same training, and have to perform to the same standards regardless of gender. I have met some tough ladies in the fire service.
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CSM Darieus ZaGara
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No doubt, hence my point. SGT Steve McFarland
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Its crazy. Powers to be push gender equality but lower standards for one gender then, calling it equal.
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SSG Brian L.
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How can it be if all the grade sheets that Ive seen ask for gender and name lol... let go to DOD ID number if we want true neutrality. So there is no bias thrown in on interpreting the scores or outcome based on scores. I know the "events" and scale are neutral however the addition of that other information taints the neutrality.
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SFC Visual Operations Chief
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That portion is there for height and weight standards and body composition.
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SSG Brian L.
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Well for true neutrality it should be removed or revised in another way.
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2LT Fire Direction Officer
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SSG Brian L. having the gender at the top also helps account for early statistics like pass/fail rates.
Putting the gender on the score sheet doesnt make it non-gender neutral. It doesnt impact the scores or the outcomes of a soldiers test.
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SSG Brian L.
SSG Brian L.
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So your telling me when it comes to flag or bar or whatever that it would or could never come into play? I understand your point however you cannot make me believe that there will not be interpretation based on it or how fast process gets initiated .... lol
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