Posted on Jun 10, 2017
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As a newly minted O-1 I have no problem with the term, but some of my fellow ENS/LTs have been scolded for using it. I never considered the term a pejorative when I was enlisted and I still don't now that I'm on the officer side. I always thought it was sort of a rite of passage that goes along with being a new Officer. Am I missing something? Do you consider the term disrespectful or demeaning?
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Butter Bar. Jarhead. Squid. Dogface. POG. REMF. Puddle Jumper. Chair Force. Personally, if any of those names offends anyone in those categories, then their skin is a little too thin for this type of work and should probably seek life elsewhere. We either kills things or support those that kill things. If those names offends people, then how are they going to act/react when the bullets fly and the IEDs go off?
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TSgt Ken Vandevoort
TSgt Ken Vandevoort
1 mo
Seven years after high school graduation, two of us from the same high school class of '65 were in the same college class. I greeted him as anchor clanker and he greeted me as fly boy. We were the only veterans in the entire class. We wore the terms as a badge of honor. The terms were earned. Not everyone can have them.
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This Army isn't for the faint of heart in my opinion.
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SFC Mark Klaers
SFC Mark Klaers
18 d
You forgot "Joe".
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SFC Mark Klaers
SFC Mark Klaers
18 d
Folks, we're talking about a world where you don't even have a first name. Take an evening, watch "Gran Torino" and get over yourself.
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LT Brad McInnis
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Frankly, if an officer finds it offensive then there is probably a reason (hint: the officer is the one that is offensive). In all my time, I found that enlisted service members are fair. If you treat them with common decency you will get the same. The officers I found that had problems, had problems because they were the problem.
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SPC Lori Heizer
SPC Lori Heizer
3 mo
Standing Jack Heizer
The only the "ROTSY", were ever called "butters bars." I never heard of a "pointer" called "butter bar," that was because they new what their job was. As a "standing Jack" I never heard any complaints about what I had on my sleeves. It was the difference of who had worked hard to get the rank they deserve. In the field. going to collage doesn't make you an officer, it's the experience you have, also if you are willing ask fo advice form NCO's that have already been there.
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SFC Terri Lee
SFC Terri Lee
3 mo
Correct do mend do
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SPC Rick LaBonte
SPC Rick LaBonte
3 mo
I figured while I was in you had to have a thick skin, we only insulted people we liked and respected!
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SGT Rafael Morales
SGT Rafael Morales
11 d
I have heard captains and above saying "that´s a good assignment for a butter bar" There is also the saying that once you become a first lieutenant, people come to you for advice that the day before thought you didn´t know anything.
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1LT William Clardy
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Q: What has a soldier wearing mosquito wings accomplished that a butter bar hasn't?
A: He's been promoted.
If you can't ridicule yourself every now and then, you will never learn one of the most effective ways to overcome fear and stress.
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MSgt George Fillgrove
MSgt George Fillgrove
3 mo
Sorry, but you take offense to a nickname. It exists for a reason, especially when you have more experience and dedication than the newly minted second lieutenant assigned as a supervisor. You end up teaching him or her and sit back in amazement when that new second lieutenant gets passed over for promotion. Happened!
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1LT William Clardy
1LT William Clardy
3 mo
MSgt George Fillgrove, who in this conversation do you think is taking offense at a nickname?
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SP5 Ed Lee
SP5 Ed Lee
3 mo
sigh lifers.....never change...LOL
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1LT William Clardy
1LT William Clardy
23 d
Being able to recognize when the truth is ridiculous has saved many a day for me, PO2 John Zodun.
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