Posted on Jun 10, 2017
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As a newly minted O-1 I have no problem with the term, but some of my fellow ENS/LTs have been scolded for using it. I never considered the term a pejorative when I was enlisted and I still don't now that I'm on the officer side. I always thought it was sort of a rite of passage that goes along with being a new Officer. Am I missing something? Do you consider the term disrespectful or demeaning?
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Butter Bar. Jarhead. Squid. Dogface. POG. REMF. Puddle Jumper. Chair Force. Personally, if any of those names offends anyone in those categories, then their skin is a little too thin for this type of work and should probably seek life elsewhere. We either kills things or support those that kill things. If those names offends people, then how are they going to act/react when the bullets fly and the IEDs go off?
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CPT Dennis Stevenson
CPT Dennis Stevenson
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Nah. I was with the 7ID in Korea in 1966-67 when the buildup in Viet Nam started. We went from full TOE to 120 people. There was an LTC, MAJ, CPT, a doctor CPT and about 20 2nd LTs. We always referred to ourselves as butter bars.
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Sgt Pete Kondrosky
Sgt Pete Kondrosky
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Myself...
USAF 12/1964-10/1968, INCLUDING my 1 year (last of 4 years of active duty) stint in SEA 10/1967-10/1968, then my DD-214.
What's with all the PC (military) BULLSHIT?!
THIS shouldn't even be a question!!
If "you" ARE "offended", then YOU...DON'T belong in the US military...PERIOD!!!
Grow a pair, get real...
"butter ball", "shit shoulder", Grunt, Air Farce/Bus Driver, Dog Face, Squid, Jarhead, "dipshit", ALL that stuff...just DO IT!!!
Try "blanket parties", "dandelion picking detail", Chinese fire drill", and many more!
We did it ALL!
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CPT Jim Gallagher
CPT Jim Gallagher
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If you do you need to resign your commission !! Keep the political correctness bullshit out of the Military
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SPC Mark Huddleston
SPC Mark Huddleston
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Even though I tried I was not nearly as eloquent describing this as you just did SSG(P) Thomas Livingston. Very well put!
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LT Brad McInnis
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Frankly, if an officer finds it offensive then there is probably a reason (hint: the officer is the one that is offensive). In all my time, I found that enlisted service members are fair. If you treat them with common decency you will get the same. The officers I found that had problems, had problems because they were the problem.
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1LT Kurt Mccarthy
1LT Kurt Mccarthy
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TSgt Gwen Walcott - In basic there isn't any rank on the ACU or OCP, so we call them fuzzies at Sand Hill.
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2LT Thomas Bertelsen
2LT Thomas Bertelsen
1 mo
They could have their cheek caressed.
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SFC Frank Lizama
SFC Frank Lizama
1 mo
They love to being saluted even though you don't see them! Fresh out of school! My commander before he left for the U.S. from Jordan said SFC, you are in-charge but technically the second Lt. from the Reserve is in-charge because he is an Officer. His men don't respected him at all.
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Capt Daniel Goodman
Capt Daniel Goodman
2 d
I just love it...that was great, absolutely fantastically hysterical, honest...buttercup? Snowflake? LOL...you know, it's funny...we had a MSgt in my unit, who'd been RIFd as an O-3 going up for O-4, so he was given the usual option to stay in as, I think, SSgt, to start...when I'd gotten to the unit, obviously, being a total newbie, he'd call me "Dan" on occasion...now, I obviously knew he was really experienced, only once did I ever ask him about it, though, given his obvious seniority, I knew better, even at that neophyte stage, and just let it go, of course, knowing he'd meant well by it, certainly...I did love that one, though...buttercup...snowflake...LMAO....
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1LT William Clardy
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Q: What has a soldier wearing mosquito wings accomplished that a butter bar hasn't?
A: He's been promoted.
If you can't ridicule yourself every now and then, you will never learn one of the most effective ways to overcome fear and stress.
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SFC William Turner
SFC William Turner
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I held the rank of Corporal E-4 for a while. It was because I was in an E-6 Staff Sgt. slot. The senior NCOs had to figure out that a 2 stripe Corporal was an NCO, although a very junior one. It was very interesting and very instructive. I was usually put in charge of menial details like cleaning the latrines, picking up pine cones, etc. The SP4s didn't like that arrangement but had no choice. When it came to moving troops to and from class I had 2 SP5s in my detachment. They put me in charge of the formation. I was routinely called a "Double Gnat Wing". I took it as a recognition of my rank with pride. When I made SGT E-5 it was all over anyway.
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LTC G4
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As long as the 2LT is not addressed directly as "butter bar", just referenced to, fine. I hate to here people, even seniors, address newly commissioned officers as "LT" (eltee)........just as I hate to hear SGT addressed as "Sarge"....
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CPT Jim Gallagher
CPT Jim Gallagher
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I was a butter bar once and I sure as hell never took offense to it. We can't allow the pussification of our Military like what's going on in the world. Thru my career I was a squid, grunt and butter bar and you know I miss it now !
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SPC Mark Huddleston
SPC Mark Huddleston
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CPT Jim Gallagher - Thank you SIR! I salute you.
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