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As a newly minted O-1 I have no problem with the term, but some of my fellow ENS/LTs have been scolded for using it. I never considered the term a pejorative when I was enlisted and I still don't now that I'm on the officer side. I always thought it was sort of a rite of passage that goes along with being a new Officer. Am I missing something? Do you consider the term disrespectful or demeaning?
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Butter Bar. Jarhead. Squid. Dogface. POG. REMF. Puddle Jumper. Chair Force. Personally, if any of those names offends anyone in those categories, then their skin is a little too thin for this type of work and should probably seek life elsewhere. We either kills things or support those that kill things. If those names offends people, then how are they going to act/react when the bullets fly and the IEDs go off?
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Sgt Ronald Harris
Sgt Ronald Harris
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We used the "Jeep Lt." or "Jeep Lieutenant" term in 'Nam.
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TSgt Alex Barkey
TSgt Alex Barkey
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I'm a retired AF in aircraft maintenance. So we have all kinds of name. Chair force I found funny...when in aircraft maintenance I was called booger hooker, all purpose gorilla, and a fng. All branches of the military pock fun at eachother, enlisted at officers, and so on. So some people just need to toughing up as long as it's not racist I really see no problem with it.
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TSgt Alex Barkey
TSgt Alex Barkey
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Poke* on my statement .
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PO2 David Dunlap
PO2 David Dunlap
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TSgt Alex Barkey - mostly what I have heard is Air Farce lol
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LT Brad McInnis
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Frankly, if an officer finds it offensive then there is probably a reason (hint: the officer is the one that is offensive). In all my time, I found that enlisted service members are fair. If you treat them with common decency you will get the same. The officers I found that had problems, had problems because they were the problem.
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CPO Donald Crisp
CPO Donald Crisp
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Agreed and with RESPECT!
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SGT Don Sanker - I had one ask me that back when I was a butter bar. I told him that to me “Top” was a term of respect denoting the “Top”, short for Top Sergeant of the company, and has been used to show respect to company first sergeants going back to the First World War and possibly beyond, but if he didn’t like it, I’d happy not to use it.
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PO2 David Dunlap
PO2 David Dunlap
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SGT Don Sanker - should have answered "yes, did I step on it" lol
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SSgt Russell Stevens
SSgt Russell Stevens
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To be perfectly honest, in my career I have met a number of company grade officers who I thought would make a better target than leader.
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Q: What has a soldier wearing mosquito wings accomplished that a butter bar hasn't?
A: He's been promoted.
If you can't ridicule yourself every now and then, you will never learn one of the most effective ways to overcome fear and stress.
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SGT David Leona
SGT David Leona
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Can't spell wimp without the MP
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SPC Mark Willis
SPC Mark Willis
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He who refuses to laugh at himself leaves the job to others — Mark Twain
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CDR Kenneth Kaiser
CDR Kenneth Kaiser
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I was in the reserves as enlisted for three years before I went to OCS. While I was in OCS my concentration was in making it out the other end. On the day of graduation I suddenly realized that the Navy would expect me to know all of that stuff they taught me in OCS (Hey I was much younger then) When I got to the fleet my chief told me that the second most dangerous thing in the world was an Ensign with a pencil. The most dangerous thing he said was an Ensign with a pencil with an eraser on it. It sort of put the world in perspective for me.
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