Do you salute the flag in the morning at 0630 for reveille on a garrison base even if the sound doesn’t go off?

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 25 Jan 2021 06:58:22 -0500

Here at Fort Eustis, the sounds for the start of the duty day and end of the duty day, have not played for the past 5 months. I have had my platoon saluting even with no sound or flag visible. I have referred to AR 600-25 and AR 600-20, but I can’t find anything on what to do when there is no sound at all.

Response by SGT David A. 'Cowboy' Groth made Jan 25 at 2021 7:05 AM

SGT David A. 'Cowboy' Groth — Mon, 25 Jan 2021 07:05:49 -0500

When I was serving, I did, every morning on the way out to my car at 0630 I salute the flag that's in front of my house before going to work SSG Private RallyPoint Member

Response by SSG Samuel Kermon made Jan 25 at 2021 7:34 AM

SSG Samuel Kermon — Mon, 25 Jan 2021 07:34:43 -0500

If there is no sound does the flag still get raised? Of course the flag gets raised. Seems that whether there is sound or not you know when the evolution takes place and do what you are supposed to do. In fact you are teaching the platoon a valuable lesson. I applaud you for being conscientious.

Response by CPO Bill Frey made Jan 25 at 2021 7:53 AM

CPO Bill Frey — Mon, 25 Jan 2021 07:53:38 -0500

I would suggest your team leaders set a alarm in their watch/phones, squad leaders as well as platoon leaders have a recording in their phones. when appropriate (outside) based on team leaders warning the squad/platoon can take action use compass heading toward HQ or TOC. Sometimes the book doesn't have the answers thats where good leaders read between the lines.

Response by SFC Michael Hasbun made Jan 25 at 2021 9:26 AM

SFC Michael Hasbun — Mon, 25 Jan 2021 09:26:35 -0500

I had the same issue in Korea. The Audio system was intermittent. So we simply rendered honors at the appropriate time. If you know it's happening, the fact that you can't hear it doesn't absolve us of our responsibilities to render appropriate honors, especially if you're at the head of the formation.
It's an important lesson for the young'uns. Integrity. Doing the right thing, especially when your formation is looking to you for guidance ;o)

Response by SSG Paul Headlee made Jan 25 at 2021 12:10 PM

SSG Paul Headlee — Mon, 25 Jan 2021 12:10:01 -0500

I've been in that situation but not for that long. You're doing the right thing.

Response by SFC Ralph E Kelley made Jan 25 at 2021 12:11 PM

SFC Ralph E Kelley — Mon, 25 Jan 2021 12:11:32 -0500

Of course - accompanying song is not required for respect rendered.

Response by PO1 Rick Serviss made Jan 25 at 2021 5:42 PM

PO1 Rick Serviss — Mon, 25 Jan 2021 17:42:05 -0500

I would be confused if I didn't hear the music.

Response by PVT Mark Zehner made Jan 25 at 2021 8:12 PM

PVT Mark Zehner — Mon, 25 Jan 2021 20:12:13 -0500

Always!

Response by Wayne Soares made Jan 25 at 2021 8:36 PM

Wayne Soares — Mon, 25 Jan 2021 20:36:51 -0500

Thanks for the share Xavier

Response by 1LT Bill Pieczara made Jan 29 at 2021 7:59 AM

1LT Bill Pieczara — Fri, 29 Jan 2021 07:59:39 -0500

Continue to honor our flagg! The cwhat we as vets stand for!olors are what we as vets stand for!
1Lt William J Pieczara (USAR ret)

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 16 at 2021 11:31 PM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 16 Feb 2021 23:31:40 -0500

And —> Jackie Gleason’s position.

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Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 21 at 2021 3:04 PM

MSG Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 21 Feb 2021 15:04:45 -0500

If you can definitively determine that the garrison flag is going up or down I would salute.