Do you think ISIS is taking "credit" for the Manchester bombing just because nobody else has?

LCpl Shane Couch — Tue, 23 May 2017 10:25:28 -0400

Just curious if I'm the only one that thinks ISIS may be jumping on an opportunity to claim a terrorist/terror like attack because nobody has yet claimed responsibility. For all we know it could have been some demented nut job like we had at the Aurora Theater mass shooting. I think ISIS is looking to gain infamy from claiming attacks they haven't committed. Am I over thinking this horrible act?

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made May 23 at 2017 10:30 AM

MSG Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 23 May 2017 10:30:40 -0400

It is possible they just want the street cred. It's also possible that they were the ones that planned and executed the attack. At this point, no one will really know for sure until the investigation is complete

Response by SSgt Ryan Sylvester made May 23 at 2017 10:37 AM

SSgt Ryan Sylvester — Tue, 23 May 2017 10:37:59 -0400

You're overthinking it. There would be nothing gained from them bombing an event, especially children, which could swing the vote more in favor of Theresa May for PM. Heck, if anything, I was almost thinking a false-flag just to get the vote back more in the tories' favor, since the PM is pretty close to going to Corbyn and the Labour Party.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made May 23 at 2017 10:49 AM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 23 May 2017 10:49:03 -0400

Yes because that's what they do. Right now from what I've read there's no evidence to link anyone involved to Daesh.

They do this quite often. They will latch onto anything - even when they had no direct contact with the person but that person read some of their propaganda. Al Qaeda has done it. Taliban did it a lot. It could have been someone who read their propaganda or it could have been someone with no association at all. Only the police and investigators there can tell us.

Response by MSG Brad Sand made May 23 at 2017 11:05 AM

MSG Brad Sand — Tue, 23 May 2017 11:05:52 -0400

Anything is possible, but there is a reason why we jump to one group of people first when we hear of these attacks...because they are the one doing these types of attacks. A couple decades ago, a bombing in Manchester would have everyone looking for people named Sean instead of Mohammed...but that would not be bigoted...right?
Another reason ISIS feels they can take credit for this...beyond that their supporters did it...is that they have created a model of lone wolf attackers that they know very little about...on purpose...to carry out these attacks. They have learned the dangers of bring their recruits into the area they control...because everyone else in the World is watching the people coming and going into this region.
To your question, yes it could be a deranged soul starting an unaffiliated bombing spree for no reason or the first of a new resurgence of the IRA...but it is not those because the murders would have take credit for their barbarity, and they didn't.

Response by CPT Jack Durish made May 23 at 2017 11:16 AM

CPT Jack Durish — Tue, 23 May 2017 11:16:07 -0400

At this point, what does it really matter? (Forgive me, I just love saying that, but in this case it is appropriate) Anyone who would take "credit" for a heinous act of terror deserves it. Let them also then deserve the punishment.

Response by SGT Dave Tracy made May 23 at 2017 11:24 AM

SGT Dave Tracy — Tue, 23 May 2017 11:24:00 -0400

ISIS would take credit for a bad hair day if it served their purposes. Did they have an active hand in this incident? Perhaps time will tell.

Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made May 23 at 2017 12:04 PM

SSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 23 May 2017 12:04:58 -0400

ISIS has open-sourced terror. Through their social media presence, they are able to recruit for, direct, and claim global acts of terror against a variety of targets. It doesn’t matter if they really had anything to do with it or not, their span of control is flat and wide: mention on social media you want to blow something up, wait for something to get blown up, then take credit for it. It’s low risk and high payoff.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made May 23 at 2017 3:12 PM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 23 May 2017 15:12:23 -0400

Terrorist org like ISIS like to claim thing which boost thier profile - involved or not. Let see what the authorities come up with.

Response by PO1 Don Gulizia made May 23 at 2017 3:51 PM

PO1 Don Gulizia — Tue, 23 May 2017 15:51:32 -0400

ISIS and AQ have "Inspired" attacks, even if they didn't direct them. Also, how many bombings have been terrorism related? I think all of them. How many mass shootings have been terrorism related? Some of them. Bottom line is a bombing like this is either directed or inspired by a terrorist entity.

Response by SGT Richard Lovell made May 23 at 2017 5:43 PM

SGT Richard Lovell — Tue, 23 May 2017 17:43:21 -0400

Considering the evidence form his social media accounts and other places, no, I don't think they are just taking credit for it. Regardless, ISIS needs to be stamped out before more harm comes to innocent victims as they try and establish their caliphate. Review the history of Islam and the caliphate and you will understand. They don't just take over by war, but by attacks such as this one and establishing themselves within communities and local governments, etc.

Response by PO1 William "Chip" Nagel made May 23 at 2017 6:03 PM

PO1 William "Chip" Nagel — Tue, 23 May 2017 18:03:46 -0400

LCpl Shane Couch http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-40019135

Manchester attack: Who was the suspect Salman Abedi? - BBC News

Salman Abedi, suspected of being behind the suicide attack at Manchester Arena, was born in the city in 1994.

Response by SSgt Christopher Brose made May 24 at 2017 3:43 AM

SSgt Christopher Brose — Wed, 24 May 2017 03:43:46 -0400

From the reports of how the bomb was constructed, it was more sophisticated than what the bomber by himself was probably capable of, which means there's a good chance ISIS was involved, especially considering the fact that they're claiming responsibility.

However, their timing sucks. Whatever their goal was, they might have just given Trump some additional credibility in his attempt to get Muslim countries to help stamp out terrorism.

Response by SGM Joel Cook made May 26 at 2017 4:52 AM

SGM Joel Cook — Fri, 26 May 2017 04:52:43 -0400

Well according to FOX news last night, he was on the UK Watch List of extremist Muslims. Unfortunately they weren't watching him well enough. He was looking to murder young UK girls at that concert, 12 of the 22 fatalities were girls under the age of 16. What really surprised me was that the UK has specific, by name, details on 850 UK residents who went to the Middle East and joined and fought for ISIS, Alkieda, or a similar terrorist organization. Then returned to the UK after a year or more. Of that 850 only 40 have been charged with criminal acts. It further went on to say several other European nations have similar high known terrorist lists. The highest number came from Belgium which has 18,000 known terrorist fighters currently living in that nation. What was missing from their report was what is that known number of former ISIS terrorists living in the USA?

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 6 at 2017 2:31 PM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 06 Jun 2017 14:31:30 -0400

Sadly we probably will never know if the attack was carried out by someone who was a part of ISIS or not. I'm sure that ISIS has claimed responsibility for many of the recent terror attacks. While it brings more pressure on them, it also makes the look stronger and more desirable to future recruits and this is why they continue to do it.