1SG Charmaine R. 23634 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Army is suggesting longer periods between promotions. &amp;nbsp;Will this recommendation assist with better preparing our junior Soldiers for leadership? Do you think requiring longer promotion periods helps to develop better leaders? 2013-12-19T04:19:16-05:00 1SG Charmaine R. 23634 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Army is suggesting longer periods between promotions. &amp;nbsp;Will this recommendation assist with better preparing our junior Soldiers for leadership? Do you think requiring longer promotion periods helps to develop better leaders? 2013-12-19T04:19:16-05:00 2013-12-19T04:19:16-05:00 CPT Private RallyPoint Member 23637 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I believe it will. I&#39;ve seen some pretty young NCOs who moved through the ranks fairly quickly, and I don&#39;t believe they were quite ready to be an NCO. Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 19 at 2013 4:22 AM 2013-12-19T04:22:29-05:00 2013-12-19T04:22:29-05:00 SSG Private RallyPoint Member 23671 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>extending the time between promotions may negatively impact *MOS that are undermanned in SGT/SSG positions.&amp;nbsp; As far as soldiers being promoted before they are ready I believe thats what recommendations/boards&amp;nbsp; are for.&amp;nbsp; It is up to each and every NCO to ensure that soldiers understand that they don&#39;t believe a soldier is ready.&amp;nbsp; A soldier should be made to understand that if they attempt an end around to get recommended and get promoted before they are ready will negatively impact their career.&amp;nbsp; I am not saying this is to be used as a threat but that SGT&#39;s have NCOER and 1 bad one can derail your future promotions.&amp;nbsp; Having this honest conversation may dissuade some from putting up a packet immediately which may give them time to work on their opportunities for improvement. Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 19 at 2013 6:27 AM 2013-12-19T06:27:04-05:00 2013-12-19T06:27:04-05:00 SSG Private RallyPoint Member 23683 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I think it depends on how much time they&#39;re thinking should be considered in between each promotion to the next rank. I do think it could have an impact on helping junior leaders prepare for the next rank. I was told as soon as I got promoted to SGT to start preparing for the promotion board for SSG.....after 6 months. That put a lot of pressure on me because I was just getting promoted and still needed to learn the INs and OUTs of being a Sergeant. I believe this will cause Soldiers to not worry so much about the next rank but moreso in focusing on the responsibilities and tasks they are required to complete at their current level: both MOS-based and Soldier-based. Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 19 at 2013 6:45 AM 2013-12-19T06:45:31-05:00 2013-12-19T06:45:31-05:00 SGT Private RallyPoint Member 23711 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I have been reading the responses and I concur in some points, I belive that the moment you pass the Board its saying you are ready but like SPC Yelle stated &quot; is the NCO role&quot; to determine when, not the TIR or TIS. Also have seen like 1LT stated &quot; young NCO moving to quickly up the ranks&quot; but this also goes with officers, I am on the medical side and see it all the time with young LT&#39;s. This all comes down to Seniors, they really have to know their soldiers(NCO or Officers alike) and provide them with the tool, experience and knowledge and THEN recommend them for their next rank. Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 19 at 2013 7:57 AM 2013-12-19T07:57:04-05:00 2013-12-19T07:57:04-05:00 SFC William Swartz Jr 23730 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>&lt;p&gt;After witnessing the, degredation of the NCO Corps over the past 8-10 years due to the rapid promotion of people to SGT and above, I applaud the &quot;Big Army&#39;s&quot; decision to lengthen the time between promotions. Now, while there are exceptions to every rule, all Soldiers and Junior NCOs need the time to learn their MOSs and to get &quot;seasoned&quot;, and that requires time. I always tried to ensure that I trained my crewman to be able to do all jobs on the tank, but as I would tell them, before you can move up you have to know and be able to do the job you are currently in. You can&#39;t be a gunner on the tank if you don&#39;t know how to be a loader or a driver first. While I applaud all that want to and deserve to move up in rank, position and/or authority, there needs to be that timeframe between ranks to ensure that Soldiers/NCOs are ready and can do the jobs!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&quot;Treat &#39;Em Rough!!&quot;&lt;/p&gt; Response by SFC William Swartz Jr made Dec 19 at 2013 8:29 AM 2013-12-19T08:29:42-05:00 2013-12-19T08:29:42-05:00 CSM Private RallyPoint Member 24049 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>You cannot expect a Team Leader to be fully matured. Their TEAM LEADERS, first foray into leadership. I got promoted very fast and always wonder if I was ready. That was answered in ALC and SLC where I was well above my peers. Response by CSM Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 19 at 2013 6:23 PM 2013-12-19T18:23:52-05:00 2013-12-19T18:23:52-05:00 SSgt Private RallyPoint Member 24329 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Hello.&amp;nbsp; It is a money-saver in the long run. Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 20 at 2013 12:59 AM 2013-12-20T00:59:44-05:00 2013-12-20T00:59:44-05:00 MAJ Private RallyPoint Member 24335 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>&lt;p&gt;I fully believe the NCO and Officer timelines need to go back to where they were 1999 level when I came into the Army. The first time I ran into a 7 in 7 (E7 in 7 years of service) I was amazed about how much this Soldier didn&#39;t know about the Army. This NCO has spent his whole career in one Battalion in the 82nd and had absolutely no idea about the rest of the Army. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The officer side has already added the year back to CPT and MAJ. I know that this will help out as many junior officers were getting screwed with the quick promotions. &lt;/p&gt; Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 20 at 2013 1:08 AM 2013-12-20T01:08:41-05:00 2013-12-20T01:08:41-05:00 SSG Robert Burns 24337 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I&#39;ve heard this but haven&#39;t read it. &amp;nbsp;Can someone point me in the direction of the article or whatever it is? Response by SSG Robert Burns made Dec 20 at 2013 1:13 AM 2013-12-20T01:13:20-05:00 2013-12-20T01:13:20-05:00 SFC Michael Hasbun 61033 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I am extremely pleased with the new requirements. There is no Soldiers so high speed that they cannot benefit from additional experience. Response by SFC Michael Hasbun made Feb 20 at 2014 11:52 AM 2014-02-20T11:52:12-05:00 2014-02-20T11:52:12-05:00 MSG Private RallyPoint Member 61047 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>It&#39;s what the Army needed, to many Soldiers get promoted without the experience or the training for the next rank. I would add, that the promotion timeline is base on, promoting on a normal pace, you will still have some Soldiers promote faster, but those will be the best of the best. Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 20 at 2014 12:12 PM 2014-02-20T12:12:45-05:00 2014-02-20T12:12:45-05:00 SGM Matthew Quick 61226 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>What &quot;new time in service requirements&quot; are you referring to? Response by SGM Matthew Quick made Feb 20 at 2014 8:40 PM 2014-02-20T20:40:36-05:00 2014-02-20T20:40:36-05:00 MAJ Private RallyPoint Member 61243 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I agree with the change, I think the new longer requirement is great. I personally don&#39;t think you should be able to make CSM under 20. At that level you should be committed to the Army. Look at the Warrant Officer and Commissioned ranks as an example. You can&#39;t make CW5 or Colonel under 20, so why would you want a CSM with under 20? Officer have been promoted with mandatory TIG requirements for a long time. 6 years as a CPT and 6 years as a MAJ. That&#39;s 12 years in just two grades. Only 5% make Below the Zone and that only allows you to get promoted one year earlier than your peers. I remember being a PV2 working for a SSG, 8 years later we were both SFC? That just seems wrong.... Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 20 at 2014 9:00 PM 2014-02-20T21:00:43-05:00 2014-02-20T21:00:43-05:00 CSM Private RallyPoint Member 61262 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>This is a very good thing to come in play.&amp;nbsp; With the last 10 years of conflict we have seen a very rapid rise of promotions with out consideration as to what the person can do ability wise and maturity.&amp;nbsp; Response by CSM Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 20 at 2014 9:11 PM 2014-02-20T21:11:38-05:00 2014-02-20T21:11:38-05:00 SSG Private RallyPoint Member 61369 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>While I&#39;ll agree that there are some NCO&#39;s that are well deserved of their fast-tracking, I&#39;ve met way too many 2-yr SGTs and 4-yr SSGs that were in no way prepared for that role. I think this way soldiers will be provided plenty of time to gain much needed leadership experience, while also ensuring that they have sufficient time to complete required promotion prerequisites. &lt;br&gt; Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 20 at 2014 11:18 PM 2014-02-20T23:18:24-05:00 2014-02-20T23:18:24-05:00 SFC William Swartz Jr 62318 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>&lt;p&gt;After watching far too many individuals get promoted before they were ready over the past 10 years, in the ranks from SGT thru 1SG, I think that the Army is doing itself a good thing here. Now, while there are exceptions to the rule, the majority of Soldiers are by no means ready for SGT in 2 years, SSG in 4, SFC in 8 or 1SG in 10. There are far too many things that said Soldiers need to learn and master at their current ranks that they are not when they are promoted before they are ready. In my last decade of service, I witnessed far too many Soldiers make ranks that they were not ready for and then have to be coddled and spoon-fed by their peers and in some cases their subordinates on the basics of their job responsibilities and skill levels. As I neared the end of my career, when I was a Sr Instructor, it was brought up that I and other SFCs within the unit needed to mentor the 1SG on my job and what it entailed; I was simply floored and insulted by this comment/suggestion, as this was an individual that was promoted over me and was or should have been already an SME on what I and other Sr Instructors did as he had supposedly been in my position before being promoted. I witnessed this in other cases as well with younger NCOs and found it to be a damned shame that they were not properly prepared for the responsibilities that were now placed on them.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;So, yes IMO, it is a good thing that the Army returns to the promotion timelines that used to be the norm in the development and promotion of it&#39;s NCOs.&lt;/p&gt; Response by SFC William Swartz Jr made Feb 22 at 2014 11:39 AM 2014-02-22T11:39:49-05:00 2014-02-22T11:39:49-05:00 CW2 Private RallyPoint Member 63023 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Its a good idea but its not going to fix the problem with &quot;Unit Cliques&quot;. I&#39;m pretty sure we&#39;ve seen the Soldier(male/female) promoted over the next Soldier who really deserved it. Since that Soldier wasn&#39;t part of that clique, they were put on the back burner. I myself am tired of seeing that crap. If a Soldier is deserving then give them the freaking opportunity. Hopefully the idea will help the type of Soldiers wanting a paycheck without the responsibility! The idea gives Soldiers time (which may be a bit too long) to mature, learn, and gain more experience. We can never learn enough. I have ran into numerous E5/6s who can&#39;t even write (which I would blame on previous leadership). There is no reason at all that an NCO should not know how to write a counseling, award, or even an NCOER...none at all. We as leaders need to make sure that we prepare the Soldiers we are going to promote to replace us one day are ready and very well-rounded in all aspects of being a Soldier. I&#39;m sure we could all go back and forth on this subject but it is ultimately our JOB as Leaders and mentors to prepare our young Soldiers to succeed and strive for greatness.&lt;br&gt; Response by CW2 Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 23 at 2014 4:02 PM 2014-02-23T16:02:56-05:00 2014-02-23T16:02:56-05:00 GySgt Private RallyPoint Member 63424 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>What are your requirements? &amp;nbsp;The Corps just changed theirs a couple years ago for Marines to be selected to SSgt by 10 years or be forced out, it use to be 12. &amp;nbsp;I knew many Sergeants that were forced out of the Corps immediately. &amp;nbsp;When we need to get rid of bodies, that&#39;s just one tool to use. Response by GySgt Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 24 at 2014 10:28 AM 2014-02-24T10:28:13-05:00 2014-02-24T10:28:13-05:00 1SG David Niles 71096 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I made five in five, stayed there for five, made 6 at ten and seven at 11, stayed seven for five, made 8 at 17 stayed there until retirement. Trust the chain. Two favorite ranks is the two I stayed at the longest. I think that the lower four should be a bit more like the Marine Corps, and have the private ranks mean a little more. Just my two cents.&amp;nbsp; Response by 1SG David Niles made Mar 6 at 2014 9:36 PM 2014-03-06T21:36:36-05:00 2014-03-06T21:36:36-05:00 SFC Private RallyPoint Member 71516 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Even though it sucks, personally, it is probably what&#39;s best for the Army in growing competent and experienced leaders.&amp;nbsp; Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 7 at 2014 1:46 PM 2014-03-07T13:46:00-05:00 2014-03-07T13:46:00-05:00 LTC Yinon Weiss 72050 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>The best way to promote people, in my opinion, is based on their competency and performance... Not on their ability to just &quot;wait things out.&quot;&amp;nbsp;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;By making time an even greater component of the promotion system, we are actually taking away incentive from people to outperform, since they know their advancement is artificially limited.&lt;/div&gt; Response by LTC Yinon Weiss made Mar 8 at 2014 3:06 PM 2014-03-08T15:06:02-05:00 2014-03-08T15:06:02-05:00 SFC Private RallyPoint Member 72068 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>It&#39;s absolutely stupid! If the NCO can do the job and his rating chain believes they should be promoted then promote them. Company Commanders are generally younger than the youngest platoon sergeant in the organization. <br />This policy if put in place will promote mediocre performance! No one should be promoted based largely just on their time<br />In service. There are plenty on people who have been in 20 years or longer and that doesent mean they are technically and tactically proficient. Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 8 at 2014 3:43 PM 2014-03-08T15:43:26-05:00 2014-03-08T15:43:26-05:00 SSG William Sutter 95048 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I think it will help develop the leader if there are longer period between promotions. When the time frame was short, some of the individuals would just think about is the next promotion and little about the growth and responsibility for each promotion. I have known some who were fast-tracked and I feel they are less of a good leader than those that took more time between promotions. Response by SSG William Sutter made Apr 6 at 2014 3:45 PM 2014-04-06T15:45:34-04:00 2014-04-06T15:45:34-04:00 CW2 Private RallyPoint Member 148390 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I agree, there have been way to many Leaders promoted waaaaaaaay to fast because the Military needed that person &quot;at that time&quot;. Now that we realize, it was not a good idea the answer is not to De-Moralize our young troops by telling them &quot;regardless of how high speed you are, you will still have to wait until you hit your time in service&quot; It seems like we are saying &quot;Punish the High Speed Person that comes up in the future&quot; for the lack of Needed Leadership. The issue is not so much how fast a person gets promoted but rather how that person acts after they reached said Promotion. <br /><br />If we really wanted to correct this GREAT BIG SHIP, I think it would be better to drop anchor and open the board dated for a longer period. I Agree you should have to wait about 5-6 years before your packet appears before the board Regardless of your TIS. Allow the packet to appear for the next 5-6 years then cut sling load.<br /><br />NOW... to cut some of the Toxic Leadership that we have created by promoting to fast... I think the Multi-Source Assessment and Feedback (MSAF) Program should be sent out to each person and allow them to provide feedback on their Leaders rather than allowing the Leaders to select the people that would give them a favorable review. Then give it more weight and have someone actually read them. If you start to see a trend that shows someone might just be that &quot;Toxic Leader&quot; that we might have promoted to fast then MAYBE its worth looking into. <br /><br />Just my two cents.... Response by CW2 Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 9 at 2014 10:28 AM 2014-06-09T10:28:22-04:00 2014-06-09T10:28:22-04:00 MSG Private RallyPoint Member 148794 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>SFC Dalen,<br /><br />I am not sure where I seen this but can you guide me in the right direction as to where you got this requirement. I want to think it was at the HRC Road Show in Korea but I could be wrong and have read a MILPER/ALARACT message. Please advise....<br /><br />Now for my two cents....after spending 29 years in the Reserves and Active Duty I have seen some fast trackers....I would say I have had a great career and most of my promotions came at the 5-6 year mark after SGT....now I have about 7 years as a MSG so Uncle Sam has slowed the breaks on this one...maybe due to the number of slots at the SGM level....will see what the board brings in the coming months....so on with the rant....now with SSD in place maybe it will weed out the slow starters and the high speed Soldiers will by pass them and you will have the high speed low drag NCO&#39;s that we need to have in place....but we as the senior NCO&#39;s need to make sure that we mentor and coach them along the way....now we do not want to leave the lazy ones behind, but some just need to be....you can only do so much with the ones willing to help themselves....if I&#39;m brash it is because I am old school and you get nothing for free....you want it you better earn it....I&#39;m not mean, just direct and correct... Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 9 at 2014 3:23 PM 2014-06-09T15:23:57-04:00 2014-06-09T15:23:57-04:00 MSG Brad Sand 178581 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I was not aware of any &#39;new&#39; requirements. I think in some places we see a return to the standard. I think the system is designed to deal with the balance of making sure the best are in the right position and have the time to develope in their position. Response by MSG Brad Sand made Jul 15 at 2014 9:48 AM 2014-07-15T09:48:26-04:00 2014-07-15T09:48:26-04:00 SFC Private RallyPoint Member 182161 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I most certainly think it will. OIF and OEF created a need for NCO&#39;s, they needed so many in fact you had to have a good reason not to board a soldiers, then the automatic promotion system!!!!! WOW.... Then you expect a soldier that didn&#39;t deserve to be promoted in the first place mentoring young soldiers. It has to start somewhere because the Army is falling apart due to poor leadership. Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 19 at 2014 11:06 PM 2014-07-19T23:06:49-04:00 2014-07-19T23:06:49-04:00 SFC Private RallyPoint Member 182259 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Yes. However, there should still be waivers and secondary zones for those who show exceptional potential ahead of their peers. You should not learn the job after you&#39;re promoted, you should have a firm grasp of what it means to be the next rank BEFORE you earn it... and prove you can handle the responsibility that comes with it. Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 20 at 2014 1:40 AM 2014-07-20T01:40:10-04:00 2014-07-20T01:40:10-04:00 SSG Ed Mikus 182690 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I believe the longer periods between promotions will help us have better leaders! But it will also discourage many people from staying in, maybe they need to go, maybe not, but the time needs to be filled with something, add more personal responsibility into the requirements to reach the next rank, require industry certifications for jobs that have such, require a 2 year degree to make Sr NCO. Let us not use only time to strengthen our dwindling numbers. Response by SSG Ed Mikus made Jul 20 at 2014 9:13 PM 2014-07-20T21:13:20-04:00 2014-07-20T21:13:20-04:00 LTC Private RallyPoint Member 182884 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>No, not with leaders who are already in positions that they should not be. That is the issue with hurry up and promote to fill ranks without caring about standards and lowering them to allow more people to be eligible to serve in the military. You can never fully weed them out. Suppose you have a PSG, 1SG, or CSM that should not be one. With longer promotion time that means that these junior Soldiers are subject to horrible and/or incompetent leadership longer. I think that is why many good junior Soldiers leave the Army. First weed out bad apples and get rid of them for good and never let them back in. Don&#39;t just throw them on staff somewhere. Second go back to train than promote. Send every E4 to WLC before they can put in for SGT stripes. Same with ALC and SLC. Let&#39;s face it we fail at this greatly as there are Soldiers in leadership positions who just wanted the rank and pay and never went to school and never will. They dodge it or they purposely fail. Yet due to our way of thinking of we got to keep our numbers up (and even as we downsize we keep getting hassled to keep our numbers up) we are not able to get those Soldiers demoted or processed out. How does that look to our junior Soldiers? Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 21 at 2014 1:36 AM 2014-07-21T01:36:35-04:00 2014-07-21T01:36:35-04:00 SFC Private RallyPoint Member 326747 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>This takes the flexibility away from unit leadership to promote soldiers when they feel they are ready. As a SFC who has been a platoon sergeant since he was a sergeant, it would have made no sense to not promote me to Staff Sergeant just because of time. We all know the longer you stay at one rank, the more they give you the responsibilities of the next rank which isn&#39;t fair to the soldier. Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 14 at 2014 12:53 PM 2014-11-14T12:53:34-05:00 2014-11-14T12:53:34-05:00 SFC Dan Sorrow, M.S. 403140 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>It&#39;ll probably do great at helping with the drawdown. Unfortunately, it will probably encourage the better troops to leave. Response by SFC Dan Sorrow, M.S. made Jan 5 at 2015 4:34 PM 2015-01-05T16:34:12-05:00 2015-01-05T16:34:12-05:00 CPT Bill McNeely 403146 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I think Getting Majors from behind the desk and back leading soldiers is the right thing. I see nothing wrong with 1LT &amp; Captains leading platoons.<br /><br />The Brits do this and it&#39;s a much calmer atmosphere within their operations. Response by CPT Bill McNeely made Jan 5 at 2015 4:40 PM 2015-01-05T16:40:57-05:00 2015-01-05T16:40:57-05:00 SFC Dan Sorrow, M.S. 403157 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>From reading through the posts on this subject, there seems to be confusion over someone being eligible for promotion versus someone being qualified and recommended for promotion. As I noted in response to some posts, I&#39;ve been retired 14 years. Since that time, are leaders required to recommend a Specialist for Sergeant or a Sergeant for Staff Seegeant simply because they&#39;re eligible under TIG/TIS? Back in the stone ages, we had to counsel soldiers who were qualified but weren&#39;t recommended for promotion. Has that changed or is it too much trouble? Response by SFC Dan Sorrow, M.S. made Jan 5 at 2015 4:51 PM 2015-01-05T16:51:10-05:00 2015-01-05T16:51:10-05:00 SGT(P) Private RallyPoint Member 403169 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I joined as a PV2 last year with 31, I think that with this changes I will make it to E6 at 46... Response by SGT(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 5 at 2015 5:00 PM 2015-01-05T17:00:27-05:00 2015-01-05T17:00:27-05:00 Lt Col John (Jack) Christensen 7492673 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I don&#39;t know about the Army, but from my Air Force background I believe it would. What really needs to be addressed is below the zone promotions. As long as that system exists any requirement for longer periods between promotions is really meaningless. Response by Lt Col John (Jack) Christensen made Jan 23 at 2022 8:34 PM 2022-01-23T20:34:44-05:00 2022-01-23T20:34:44-05:00 MAJ Ken Landgren 7492932 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I want the high speeds getting faster promotions and more responsibility. Response by MAJ Ken Landgren made Jan 23 at 2022 11:52 PM 2022-01-23T23:52:16-05:00 2022-01-23T23:52:16-05:00 SFC Rich Bright 7493048 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>YES- Having seen a desperate short man power Army Promote 1-2 year enlistee to SGT in Combat Arms and lose same rank in many cases, is not the best approach. For Him or her or their Troops. Response by SFC Rich Bright made Jan 24 at 2022 2:11 AM 2022-01-24T02:11:07-05:00 2022-01-24T02:11:07-05:00 CSM Richard StCyr 7493515 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Not really,<br />There are folks who pick things up pretty quick and others who ferment forever and never get it. Let &#39;em roll holding folks to some BS timeline stymies the fast burners. <br /><br />In the past the slower promotions were a means of force management, helping accessions keep up with losses and helped ensure there wasn&#39;t a glut or shortage at any one grade. <br /><br />This is one of those cyclic things, like we saw in the 70&#39;s coming out of the long war, there was a need for quick promotions and a build up. This transitioned in the 80s with the Army of excellence and a calmer time where the focus was on greater professionalism and better skills training. Then the force 21 in the 90s revamping the force to meet new threats after the fall of the Soviets ,and now coming out of another long war and the need to build the force up, we again see a repeat of the 70s. Slowing it down. <br />Don&#39;t be surprised if there is a resurgence of the Army of excellence or similar push towards perceived greater professionalism and training after pushing folks through the ranks to meet the needs of the GWOT period. Response by CSM Richard StCyr made Jan 24 at 2022 10:27 AM 2022-01-24T10:27:05-05:00 2022-01-24T10:27:05-05:00 SSG Eric Blue 7494047 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Perhaps so. During my career, there were entirely too many young Staff Sergeants and Sergeants First Class who were obviously not ready for their next rank. But they got promoted anyway because of the good ol&#39; boy system, who they knew, who they were sleeping with, and an incredible amount of forgeries. Few of the leaders I served with and around got what they got &quot;the right way&quot;, but those particular leaders who did were on-point and ready for the responsibilities that they were given. They didn&#39;t skip ahead of this person or that person because they did well on the SGT Audie Murphy board or anything like that. One concern I would have if I were still in would be if waivers for those head-and-shoulders-above soldiers and leaders would be available. Response by SSG Eric Blue made Jan 24 at 2022 3:25 PM 2022-01-24T15:25:12-05:00 2022-01-24T15:25:12-05:00 LTC Stephen F. 7622049 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I just your post <a class="dark-link bold-link" role="profile-hover" data-qtip-container="body" data-id="41169" data-source-page-controller="question_response_contents" href="/profiles/41169-25b-information-technology-specialist-94th-aamdc-hhc-94th-aamdc">1SG Charmaine R.</a> Thank you for posting a great question. Even though it was over 8 years ago [and 2 years before I signed on to RallyPoint].<br />To be honest I expect longer time periods in rank required before promotion consideration would probably help junior leaders to hone their skills, reduce weaknesses and in the mid-to-long long term make them better leaders. Obviously some critical shortage MOSs may need to get a waiver from this requirement.<br />FYI <a class="dark-link bold-link" role="profile-hover" data-qtip-container="body" data-id="8144" data-source-page-controller="question_response_contents" href="/profiles/8144-sfc-william-swartz-jr">SFC William Swartz Jr</a> <a class="dark-link bold-link" role="profile-hover" data-qtip-container="body" data-id="22186" data-source-page-controller="question_response_contents" href="/profiles/22186-1w0x1-weather">SSgt Private RallyPoint Member</a> 1SG Dan Capri <a class="dark-link bold-link" role="profile-hover" data-qtip-container="body" data-id="263688" data-source-page-controller="question_response_contents" href="/profiles/263688-ssg-michael-noll">SSG Michael Noll</a> <a class="dark-link bold-link" role="profile-hover" data-qtip-container="body" data-id="1773985" data-source-page-controller="question_response_contents" href="/profiles/1773985-ssg-bill-mccoy">SSG Bill McCoy</a><a class="dark-link bold-link" role="profile-hover" data-qtip-container="body" data-id="810011" data-source-page-controller="question_response_contents" href="/profiles/810011-ssg-william-jones">SSG William Jones</a> <a class="dark-link bold-link" role="profile-hover" data-qtip-container="body" data-id="1694379" data-source-page-controller="question_response_contents" href="/profiles/1694379-spc-michael-terrell">SPC Michael Terrell</a> <a class="dark-link bold-link" role="profile-hover" data-qtip-container="body" data-id="1121300" data-source-page-controller="question_response_contents" href="/profiles/1121300-spc-woody-bullard">SPC Woody Bullard</a> <a class="dark-link bold-link" role="profile-hover" data-qtip-container="body" data-id="1672722" data-source-page-controller="question_response_contents" href="/profiles/1672722-cpl-ronald-keyes-jr">CPL Ronald Keyes Jr</a> <a class="dark-link bold-link" role="profile-hover" data-qtip-container="body" data-id="1402174" data-source-page-controller="question_response_contents" href="/profiles/1402174-sgt-donald-h-don-bates">SSG Donald H &quot;Don&quot; Bates</a> <a class="dark-link bold-link" role="profile-hover" data-qtip-container="body" data-id="1619267" data-source-page-controller="question_response_contents" href="/profiles/1619267-spc-michael-duricko-ph-d">SPC Michael Duricko, Ph.D</a> <a class="dark-link bold-link" role="profile-hover" data-qtip-container="body" data-id="532737" data-source-page-controller="question_response_contents" href="/profiles/532737-sgt-james-murphy">SGT James Murphy</a> <a class="dark-link bold-link" role="profile-hover" data-qtip-container="body" data-id="334546" data-source-page-controller="question_response_contents" href="/profiles/334546-sfc-william-farrell">SFC William Farrell</a><a class="dark-link bold-link" role="profile-hover" data-qtip-container="body" data-id="1714768" data-source-page-controller="question_response_contents" href="/profiles/1714768-98g-voice-interceptor">SGT Tiffanie G.</a> <a class="dark-link bold-link" role="profile-hover" data-qtip-container="body" data-id="1637496" data-source-page-controller="question_response_contents" href="/profiles/1637496-maj-roland-mcdonald">MAJ Roland McDonald</a> <a class="dark-link bold-link" role="profile-hover" data-qtip-container="body" data-id="1715811" data-source-page-controller="question_response_contents" href="/profiles/1715811-1sg-joseph-dartey">1SG Joseph Dartey</a> Response by LTC Stephen F. made Apr 13 at 2022 5:28 AM 2022-04-13T05:28:38-04:00 2022-04-13T05:28:38-04:00 2013-12-19T04:19:16-05:00