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As a member of the so-called "New" Navy, this question has been asked and talked about around my command for the last few months. I'd like to hear some different perspectives about it
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I believe this:
Both sexes are different. There is no getting around it. Can't be done without hormone therapy for both sexes. That being said, regardless of the job, if either sex can meet the standard then fine, cool, grab a weapon and move out. If neither sex can meet the standard, sorry, but grab your gear and hit the door. I believe in letting people try. I believe in letting people have the opportunity to try. But saying they HAVE to be included just pisses people off and will (for a time) create hostilities.
Both sexes are different. There is no getting around it. Can't be done without hormone therapy for both sexes. That being said, regardless of the job, if either sex can meet the standard then fine, cool, grab a weapon and move out. If neither sex can meet the standard, sorry, but grab your gear and hit the door. I believe in letting people try. I believe in letting people have the opportunity to try. But saying they HAVE to be included just pisses people off and will (for a time) create hostilities.
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HN Robert Barquist
Agreed, and when it comes to combat roles all need to have the same opportunity to qualify, but under the identical rigorous standards necessary for combat, no exceptions. I have known men who could not make the grade. And I have known some women that scare the hell out of me! Thx/BB
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Sgt Keegan D'Alfonso
Men and women are different, both physically and mentally (and by mentally I mean they think differently), but I wouldn't call that a bad thing. Let's embrace our difference and utilize them effectively instead of trying to make everyone the same.
Under no circumstances should we lower standards for anyone though.
Under no circumstances should we lower standards for anyone though.
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'Bother me?' I am blessed to have retired before the insanity was to deeply in bedded.
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PO2 Peter Wells
CPO David Sharp -
We just Said "Treat the Sick and Injured and maintain the Medical Readiness of Ship's Company and Embarked Personnel." was our Mission... they she said "But how do we turn that in to a mission statement" To which Replied "We just stated that we Treat the Sick and Injured and Maintain Medical Readiness. That's Our Mission and we stated it"
It went on like that for a while lol. The Senior Corpsmen (4-1st classes, 3-CPO, SCPO top heavy Department) and Doctor (LT) kept Skipping through Triage and Giggling at her Frustration. But the LTJG and the LCDR were so intent on it I think they were trying to win some Contest.
The Whole Ordeal took place 10 Years Ago though so I won't be able to Educate the JG.
We just Said "Treat the Sick and Injured and maintain the Medical Readiness of Ship's Company and Embarked Personnel." was our Mission... they she said "But how do we turn that in to a mission statement" To which Replied "We just stated that we Treat the Sick and Injured and Maintain Medical Readiness. That's Our Mission and we stated it"
It went on like that for a while lol. The Senior Corpsmen (4-1st classes, 3-CPO, SCPO top heavy Department) and Doctor (LT) kept Skipping through Triage and Giggling at her Frustration. But the LTJG and the LCDR were so intent on it I think they were trying to win some Contest.
The Whole Ordeal took place 10 Years Ago though so I won't be able to Educate the JG.
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CPO David Sharp
Doc Wells, There have been times I have encountered some J.O.s acting similar. The job of the CPO Community is to train the J.O.s, and that goes up to CDR. The antics are a competition of sort to try and impress higher Command. Most times it falls into a category of a test by superior Officers pushing the Juniors. Unfortunately the subordinate Sailors pay the price for this "school yard" nonsense. The CPO, SCPO and to some extent the E-6 personnel failed in their role to her and the enlisted Corpsmen. In some respect the CPO tarnished the anchor a bit in the actions taken and NOT taken.
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Maj John Bell
PO2 Peter Wells - As grunt I thought the FMF Corpsman mission was "Save the wounded, heal the sick, even at great peril to myself". God Bless the Navy Corpsman.
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No, for me it's the reverse. A gender oriented military bothers me. Standards should be more important than gender. Why should gender be taken into consideration for job performance?
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Cpl Joseph R. Connors / USMC
I whole-heartedly agree with this statement. Standards should NEVER be lowered under any circumstance. Most especially at the expense of combat-readiness and effectiveness for the sake of advancing a diluted political agenda.
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SSG (Join to see)
Sir, very well said. It truly boggles my mind why so many continue to view others in such a manner.
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