Posted on Jul 19, 2016
SFC Richard Giles
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SFC Vernon McNabb
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The ribbons themselves do not define the Soldier. What that Soldier did to earn those ribbons says much about him/her. I know some CoCs hand out ribbons and medals like "candy", but I know I earned everyone of mine. I am sure a lot of Soldiers could say the same. If a Soldier works only to get recognized, then I could see where your question is valid, and I have seen that. Some Soldiers volunteer just to get the ribbon. I volunteered because I liked it. The ribbon was an afterthought.
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SFC Richard Giles
SFC Richard Giles
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Spot on with your comments SFC McNabb. I did the same thing because I liked it.
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Same boat I volunteered because coaching H.S. Football was always a passion of mine. Did not even think about awards while I was doing, just focusing on my defense! G2G. Awards do not define the person the actions do. Good point and should be reciprocated throughout the ranks!
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I've had many discussions on this the past few months. It seems the trend is those soldiers with a chest full of awards tend to view them as no big deal, shouldn't be the goal, and don't mean what they used to mean. Those younger and/or newer soldiers with few awards tend to feel more of a sense of accomplishment, validation, and motivation to get awards. I can't say motivation to get a ribbon is bad motivation if it leads them to do the tasks associated with said reward, however, of course they should quickly grow out of reward being the sole motivation. I strongly believe that if punishment or discipline for poor behavior needs to be carried out on paper, then by equal measure reward for excellent actions should merit the same. Tangible reward can make good soldiers better, and turn fair soldiers into great ones if given fairly and complemented with a good dose of expectations, responsibility, and encouragement. I certainly don't think medals and ribbons should be the sole goal for the seeker, nor the end-all for the giver. It is merely a good affirmation in a much larger process of cultivating soldiers and leaders. Just some of my thoughts on the matter.
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1SG John Millan
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WO1 (Join to see) - The participation awards for not exceeding standards, mediocrity awards and gimmies are part of an awards welfare culture that is cheapening the perception of legitimate awards in my opinion. Maj. Dick winters and the Band of Brothetrs would laugh at our current awards. The "Greatest Generation" that survived the Great Depression and the Dust Bowl fought and won the bloodiest war in human history, WW2. they maybe had 4-5 ribbons after 4 years of hellish combat. Now, an Airman with 4 years in and no combat service will have more meaningless participation awards for mediocrity than will a Marine or Army grunt who served multiple tours in Afghanistan. It is insane. Needs t o be fixed.
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The awards don't define a career but are typically a reflection.
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Capt Tom Brown
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That's the word I was searching for.
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LTC Stephen F.
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Hopefully not SFC Richard Giles.
Different commands and units and commanders have different philosophies putting service members in for an award, ribbon or medal. Some have liberal policies while others have more measured policies for awards.
Badges are another matter since those are all earned - airborne, ranger, EIB, CIB, etc.
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SFC Richard Giles
SFC Richard Giles
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I've been seeing quite a bit of interest in the CIB and CAB, again why wouldn't you know if you rated one of those badges?
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SFC Richard Giles
SFC Richard Giles
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Since you bought it up LTC Ford do you mind me asking what your style was?
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LTC Stephen F.
LTC Stephen F.
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SFC Richard Giles - I tried to be consistent across commands from Platoon leader on up. I recommended some soldiers for impact awards and most who performed well for end-of-tour awards. I had to go to bat for some for my troops in cases where somebody higher up wanted to downgrade the award. Sometimes I was successful and other times I wasn't.
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SFC Richard Giles
SFC Richard Giles
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Nothing wrong with that standard sir. Thx for the response.
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