Posted on Jul 24, 2020
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If a soldier receives a permanent profile do you believe that it would hinder their career? Specifically the permanent profile is for airborne operations only. There are ZERO PT restrictions and the profile simply reads "No Airborne Operations". From a career point of view, do you believe this could hurt them? Or would it just simply limit their assignment choices?
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I have a perm profile. Have had one since 2010 as a SPC. Here I am as a SFC with 2 deployments and tenure as Detachment Sergeant twice.
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SFC,
Thank you for your response and your experience as well. Do you believe that you could get overlooked based off of your profile, or that it truly has no effect on your career? Thanks!
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SSG Clint Underhill - The possibility of getting overlooked is always there whether one has a perm profile or not. For me, I have not had to worry about getting overlooked nor having it affect me negatively in my career. But then, I am in a low density MOS with few SFC 68S in the Reserves. Also, my NCOERs have spoken volumes for my track record. You would practically need to wear sunglasses when you read my NCOERs. IMHO, the only way a perm profile, especially with this "No Airborne Operations" would negatively impact a career is if someone that is higher up and All American Hooah Hooah Airborne and wants to make it an issue. If the SM can still perform their job...then I wouldn't care if they can't jump out of a plane. Just means, to me, no more Airborne units for this SM.
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SFC Livingston,
This was the exact mindset and point of view that I had as well. Since there are few jobs in the Army that require a soldier to jump as part of their duties, I assumed that it would not change much in their career. Given all of the information that you stated, like being able to perform your job and such, I too would not think that it would hinder a soldiers career. I appreciate your input on this topic.
LTC Hardware Test Engineer
I've had a permanent profile, no run and no pushups, since 2005. Had 3 company commands, multiple primary staff positions, deployed 3 times and went from 2LT to LTC.
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Sir,
Thank you for your input and your shared experience. I would say that based off of your experience, it should not be an issue. Thank you very much.
SFC Sonja Ruffin
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Sir, this is excellent information. I am a former recruiter and advises and continue to recruit prospect and others to join but I recommended a college student to join the Army and he went to OCS ... currently he have pass all require task (except one) the 4 mile run in 36 minutes but have tested at least twice getting close to the 36 minutes (37:00) he learned after going to the clinic that he have to do more testing and see different doctor. The main question here could he get a permanent profile for the run or a waiver to graduate and go on to the next phase. I found out the soldier that did not pass all events of the ACFT got waiver to graduate and move on to the next phase. Or would this be put into another phase depending on the outcome of his injury
MSgt Mark Bucher
Didn't hurt mine. Pissed off a few people, but I'd PT em to death pumping out pushups, and sit ups. I'd also hike em into the ground over 3 miles.
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MSgt thank you very much for your response and your experience. I am glad that it did not change the outcome of your career.
MSgt Mark Bucher
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Clint, simply put, a permanent profile won't hurt you. What WILL hurt you is defying the profile and trying to gut it out, further screwing up your body. I did that one for the last time in 93, I paid the price for almost 6 months hobling around on an inflamed ankle. No more long runs for me!

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