Does anyone have any experience with this replacement for the APFT?

2018-06-13T11:49:58-04:00

Does anyone have any experience with this new test that’s supposed to be replacing the APFT? What’s the pass/fail mark? What do the raw score numbers mean on the back toss? Are there alternate events? I don’t see these things being doable for people with shoulder/back profiles.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 13 at 2018 11:50 AM

2018-06-13T11:50:38-04:00

I meant to add this too.

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1SG Backbone

Should be implemented 1 OCT 18 for training & goes into effect for record testing 1 OCT 19... as I hold my scotch in one hand and DD 214 in the other.

Response by CPT Lawrence Cable made Jun 13 at 2018 1:09 PM

2018-06-13T13:09:25-04:00

Is there anything much harder on a back injury that a sit up? The leg lift thing isn't easy, I do those at the gym when I feel like torturing myself. The sprint thing doesn't look fun either.

Response by 1LT Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 13 at 2018 2:43 PM

2018-06-13T14:43:57-04:00

There's no way that's being implemented 1 October. My brigade just got a tasking to send a male and female NCO to Bragg for yet another potential combat readiness test. It involves wearing body armor and throwing sandbags, among other things...

Response by CPT Zachary Brooks made Jun 13 at 2018 2:52 PM

2018-06-13T14:52:27-04:00

Some of the events still confuse me as to why they are there, but at least they removed the sit up!

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 13 at 2018 3:14 PM

2018-06-13T15:14:24-04:00

I heard and read on this site that everything is on hold because there are logistical problems for the part time components. Can anyone verify this?

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 13 at 2018 7:20 PM

2018-06-13T19:20:19-04:00

Some of us get injuries from the basic APFT, at the end of this 5 event test. Do you think someone could possibly do 2 miles after the sprint drag? I’m wondering if there keeping the 2 miles for now as a test to see. I feel in the future they’ll possibly reduce it to maybe a 1.5 mile

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 13 at 2018 8:55 PM

2018-06-13T20:55:42-04:00

Thank GOD that I am getting ready to retire and turn the Army over to the Millennial trolls.

Response by SFC Ismael Diaz made Jun 15 at 2018 1:28 PM

2018-06-15T13:28:05-04:00

Visit milSuite, milbook and search for the Master Fitness Group.
Good collaboration site.

Response by SFC Ismael Diaz made Jun 15 at 2018 1:41 PM

2018-06-15T13:41:41-04:00

What in the world is this change. I am stationed at an AIT location Ft Lee, Va and heck the fail rate for the current APFT is high. Look, stop thinking that new recruits are much better equipped to deal with Mental and physical challenges. I witness this on a daily basis. Give them a cell or tablet test and now you are talking.

Response by CW2 Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 17 at 2018 2:32 PM

2018-06-17T14:32:15-04:00

Honestly, I don’t see it happening.

They’ve been trying to replace the APFT for decades, and this one is gonna require a huge amount of logistical requirements to work.

Excuse me while I channel my inner logistician...

It’s going to take weeks to get a Bn through it, there’s going to be a limited number of sets of available equipment on post to use, that equipment is going to become unserviceable and need to be replaced or maintained, and when it does training cycles will need to be swapped around. The net result is that it’s going to be extremely difficult for units to get green on the new physical fitness requirement.

I looked at the test- it’s actually really cool, and I’m sure it’s a more accurate measure of fitness than the current APFT. That being said, it’s not going to work as a replacement for it. If it works administratively the same way as the current one does(I.E. 2x per year/you need a valid one to go to schools/send up packets/etc), people are just going to pencil whip it as needed because of its length and complexity.

The best way to make a new test would be to design it to be performed entirely with a set of free weights *at the most* and issue them down to the CO/PLT level to allow for maximum flexibility in performing the test and meeting requirements.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 29 at 2018 11:39 PM

2018-07-29T23:39:14-04:00

What are the alternate events?

Response by SFC(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 26 at 2019 7:03 AM

2019-07-26T07:03:26-04:00

It is the ACFT. I have recently took it and been certified as a Lvl 2 instructor for it. All I have heard is a lot of bitching and moaning about it, even from me the day before I had to do it. It is actually a helluvah lot better test then the APFT, especially the Sit-ups since it has been medically proven to be horrible on your body. You can find everything on it from google. There is no gender or age breakdown it is only broken down into 3 categories for the min standard on your MOS. Out of the 30 soldiers I took it with there was only 1 person who failed and she was old as dirt and couldn't do the leg tuck. Multiple changes have happened to it and will continue to happen to improve it. Alternate events are coming for it and once that in finalized it will pass through legal and be implemented army wide.
We had the same discussion about all the stuff needed for it and it seems like it will fall onto Brigades to have it passed down and handled. It is coming.

Response by WO1 Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 5 at 2019 2:54 PM

2019-12-05T14:54:07-05:00

All I know is j love everything about the new test and cant wait for it to be for record. You cant fake these events. You actually have to work out and get in shape (if you want a decent score, with it being age and gender neutral the minimum are dirt low.) I at first was against it, (still am only for the cluster that will be logistical stand point.) But all in all a very good test to see who cares about bettering themselves and getting/staying physically fit.

As for alternate events, about 2 months ago the SMA and CSMs of tradoc and one other command had an hour long Q&A where they mentioned of the 5 events you have to do 3 (don't recall which ones) and that instead of a 2mile for those on profile it would be bike, row, or swim. But making it an actual challenge as to still show fitness levels.

Response by SSG Steven Borders made May 3 at 2021 10:39 PM

2021-05-03T22:39:47-04:00

They will be administering it at my ALC this month. We will see how it goes, not looking forward to it for sure but hey at least it doesn't count against us. Since this will be my first time ever seeing it. They really did not think about the Reserves/NG when they thought up this test.