Does anyone have any good information on how to effectively use Harris 150 HF Radios at NTC?

2020-01-10T18:04:24-05:00

any links, smartbooks, lessons learned would be greatly appreciated

Response by Capt Dwayne Conyers made Jan 10 at 2020 6:27 PM

2020-01-10T18:27:18-05:00

Try this PDF file: https://tinyurl.com/v2lpqhk

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Response by MAJ Ken Landgren made Jan 10 at 2020 9:49 PM

2020-01-10T21:49:30-05:00

Did you try higher?

Response by 1LT Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 10 at 2020 11:11 PM

2020-01-10T23:11:57-05:00

https://www.globalsecurity.org/military/library/report/call/call_10-33.pdf
Best I could come up with. Pg 75

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Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 11 at 2020 8:08 AM

2020-01-11T08:08:22-05:00

Sir,
Ops Group at NTC periodically publishes lessons learned on the Center For Army Lessons Learned (CALL) site, I have no idea if this subject has been covered, but it may be a start.

Response by 1LT Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 11 at 2020 11:54 PM

2020-01-11T23:54:18-05:00

I came across this statement in CALL. Im wondering if someone can point me to contact info for these sites.
Cyber Center of Excellence (Cyber CoE) Comments: HF training is available through the
Regional Signal Training Sites (RSTS) at home station (see attached RSTS location slide).
PACE is detailed in FM 6-02, Signal Support to Operations and TC 6-02.1, The United States
Army Signal Corps 2019 Training Strategy. Available on the Army Publishing Directorate,
https://armypubs.army.mil

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Response by MAJ Roland McDonald made Jan 13 at 2020 2:21 AM

2020-01-13T02:21:19-05:00

Here is a link to something that might help. http://www.railce.com/cw/casc/harris/HB-AN-PRC-150C.pdf
downloadable.

HB-AN-PRC-150C.pdf

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 10 at 2020 1:08 PM

2020-02-10T13:08:22-05:00

Oh brother good luck with this one. You, me and every other Squadron S6 has wanted to deploy HF and for good reason because of the terrain and every Troop commander wants to hide in a hole making SINCGARS next to worthless without LOS.

Here are my Tips/Suggestions.

1. Work with your Brigade S6 and his/her staff directly on this one. A large portion of the problem is going to be ensuring that the Spectrum Analysis and request with NTC has been put in to make sure you have the necessary Feqs to talk all hours of the day and a robust RPA program distributed to all radios before head head into the box. I would suggest priority is your Scouts so they can talk to the bde cell for voice fires. Followed by Command Node..they will almost always use Upper TI followed by JBCP/BFT before they move to SINCGAR/HF as a primary communications method. Your scouts can take huge advantage of HF if trained, your fires guys in your Brigade should be jumping all over this.

2. Make sure your radio mounts/antennas for your tracks are tested before rolling out to the field. If your heavy (making an assumption) your 1068s should have full mast kits, make sure you have all of the elements and that units are trained on how to deploy these antennas for BLOS. For your dismounts I recommend man packs with NVIS kits and lots of batteries.

3. Training is key at home station before showing up to NTC. During RSOI you will have ZERO time to get this done and whatever training you get done will be rushed.

4. I hope you have better success they my last two rotation at NTC deploying this. 1. Planning, 2. Prior Training, 3. Getting units to actually turn on and listen to the HF radio is the key to success. Make sure the speaker systems are hooked up for your 150 mounts or the whole thing is pointless because Joe will not listen to the radio. Lastly, don't get your feelings hurt when HF is bypassed by every other communications method to include getting in a HUMVEE and driving to a location for a face to face. The US Army as a whole is really doing a bad job with our usage and training of HF. Good luck with helping us fix this.

-Dodge

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 21 at 2020 3:42 PM

2020-03-21T15:42:36-04:00

In regards to specifically using the 150s, make sure to check out LandWarNet. Looking through it and talking to everyone else who has been to NTC or just signal in general, it's an invaluable lesson on using/troubleshooting those systems.

Response by LTC James Krehmke made May 2 at 2021 1:24 PM

2021-05-02T13:24:38-04:00

Not Harris specific, but when I was at NTC (1st Brigade, 24th ID (M)), we used NVIS (near vertical incidence skywave) to communicate with elements directly on the other side of a mountain. Very effec tive and useful.