Does anyone know why my promotion orders could have me listed as my prior MOS?

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 14 Jul 2020 14:13:03 -0400

Situation: I got promoted this month to SSG. On my orders it has my PMOS as 11C30. It should say 12N30. My CoC is saying it's probably an error and they just listed it because it's a prior MOS I've held.

I also received orders transferring out of the unit so my UA is telling me it might be because they need me in that MOS at that unit.
Problem 1, I'm still trying to get in contact with my gaining unit.
Problem 2, I was under the impression there are no 11 series positions in the Reserves.
If anyone has in experience with a similar situation or have any advice please comment below.

And yes I know I need to get on my admin stuff as it can affect my career.

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 14 at 2020 2:38 PM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 14 Jul 2020 14:38:24 -0400

What unit did you get promoted to? The only 11 series in the USAR is out of Hawaii and Pacific Islands (100th Infantry Battalion), as well as some one-off spots here and there. You could also potentially fill any 00F (MOS immaterial) position as an 11C. My guess is the MOS listed on the promotion order is just an error, but if they need you back in an 11C role, is that a deal-breaker for you? I have gone back and forth between primary and secondary MOS several times for different positions; the unit just generates a new order swapping them (National Guard).

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 14 at 2020 2:53 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 14 Jul 2020 14:53:58 -0400

Common misconception about there being no 11 series in the Reserves. You should change your profile to USAR so the Reserve people on here can see and better answer your question

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 14 at 2020 3:22 PM

LTC Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 14 Jul 2020 15:22:49 -0400

Typo?

Response by 1SG Dennis Hicks made Jul 14 at 2020 4:06 PM

1SG Dennis Hicks — Tue, 14 Jul 2020 16:06:55 -0400

Needs off the Army regardless of component, I started out an 11B with about 4 or 5 ADMOS's While the Reserves did away with Combat Arms units it has plenty of former AD 11 Series positions out there. 11 Series Soldiers are sometimes like universal parts that can be slipped, beaten or forced into a running machine which is the Army normally. Sometimes its a clerical error sometimes it to get you promoted. I could be wrong and sometimes am, If you got picked up as an 11Series for promotion it could be because your current PMOS had higher numbers for promotion. Look at your Promotion orders it should show your Primary and secondary. MOS and what you were picked us as if I recall.

On a Side note I served in a Civil Affairs Battalion as an 11B and then an 11Z with no Infantry slots on the MTOE. But I did have one of the required MOS' on the UMR. It won't hurt you unless there is a glut of other Soldiers with your MOS, It pays to have secondary and additional MOS's come promotion time, you are more marketable to big Army :)

Response by SSG Kenneth Ponder made Jul 14 at 2020 4:18 PM

SSG Kenneth Ponder — Tue, 14 Jul 2020 16:18:27 -0400

They promoted you in the career field they needed. Don't like it turn it down

Response by SFC Ralph E Kelley made Jul 14 at 2020 4:25 PM

SFC Ralph E Kelley — Tue, 14 Jul 2020 16:25:24 -0400

♫ Take the Money and Run ♫

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 14 at 2020 9:37 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 14 Jul 2020 21:37:16 -0400

You get looked at for each of your MOSs. You’ll get orders for where you look best from a talent management standpoint.

You can get reassigned (and keep your rank) but that’s the 150 meter target. Your 50 would be to link up with your gaining unit as you're probably going to a “will train” or immaterial position. Either one requires you to further qualify for where you’ve been slotted.

As a 13B, I was reassigned out of an immaterial position (drill sergeant) to a “will train” in some information ops unit. I initiated a transferred after about 6 months.

Response by CSM Bob Stanek made Jul 14 at 2020 10:03 PM

CSM Bob Stanek — Tue, 14 Jul 2020 22:03:58 -0400

SSG Williams, Having served on the Army Reserve promotion boards... Its possible that when you submitted or it was entered into the system, it listed your old NCO as an additional MOS. IF that is the case, the promotion board will look at all MOSs you have noted in the system. I reported this as an issue as soldiers should not be considered for promotion in an MOS they have competed in year (five to ten year time frame).

In any case, my guess is they popped it in as it was listed on your 2A or other document.

That said, there are many combat series MOS's available, especially in the training unit. Most are good opportunities for senior promotions (SFCs, MSGs and some SGMs). But it usually means more travel and some longer hours prepping for training weekends where you train soldiers on re-classification courses. But that might not be too bad as these days, cost of travel expenses are now becoming part of the position (whereas in the past these were out of pocket expenses). Even air travel is covered. Check with the new unit if they have a unit or detachment close to your home of record. They tend to be very flexible to work with to retain skilled instructors, especially if you're looking for future promotions and willing to travel. I took a stint and it turned my career around (was an SSG for 12 years before taking a position as a SFC in an MP Training unit). Eventuallly led me to reach the rank as a CSM for a 2-star general. So give it a try.
Good Luck and Congrats on the Promotion to SFC>
BOB S
CSM (R)

Response by MAJ Ronnie Reams made Jul 15 at 2020 8:47 AM

MAJ Ronnie Reams — Wed, 15 Jul 2020 08:47:06 -0400

Used to be the 442d Infantry and/or the 100th Bn (Neishi) were in the USAR out in the Pacific, more American Japanese out that way. They are kinda the American Gurkas. Also, USAR had Training Divisions full off 11B Drill Sergeants and school house infantry instructors. So saying no combat arms in USAR is kinda not right, IMHO.

Response by 1SG Brian Adams made Jul 15 at 2020 10:20 AM

1SG Brian Adams — Wed, 15 Jul 2020 10:20:09 -0400

Are you reserves...? Continue to call your gaining unit and keep digging on the MOS snafu with S1 on your promotional orders. They can be easily amended stating your correct MOS...I was tracking until you mentioned reserves 11 series...

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 15 at 2020 2:31 PM

LTC Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 15 Jul 2020 14:31:46 -0400

SSG Private RallyPoint Member whenever someone is promoted out of a unit to a higher grade billet it should be considered a good thing. The only true combat slots in the Reserve is the 442nd INF BN in Hawaii & Samoa. That being said there are many training units in the Army Reserve where Soldiers are placed in a 00G (General, Enlisted Billet- any MOS) that serve under the 84th Command, 1st Army & other organizations.

If you don't like your new unit, you can just wait a year and then request to transfer back to your original unit or another unit.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 19 at 2020 3:47 AM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 19 Nov 2020 03:47:15 -0500

May need to ask you S1 to pull up your EPPS-A packet to ensure the correct MOS. Start there.