Does ETSing a good Soldier seem easier than chaptering a bad Soldier?

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 17 Mar 2014 09:21:07 -0400

Has anyone else noticed that good soldiers are being forced to ETS and it is getting harder to chapter soldiers that cant pass there pt test of even properly perform thier job. Please give me your input on this I want to know if it is the same throughout the military.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 17 at 2014 9:26 AM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 17 Mar 2014 09:26:56 -0400

ETSing a good soldier, now a days truly does take a act of congress, I had a fellow coworker E-6 was trying to ETS in about 1wk. She had it all planned out. Problem was she did not expect all these hiccups along the way. Fe... clearing 3 libraries on post. Oh yeah and how about she had to take a online sponsorhship class before she ETS'd. The comment she was I'm not PCSin'g, I am ETSing. On the other hand a soldier we chaptered tood 5 days. What a difference. Amazingly he had less to clear.

Response by SFC Michael Hasbun made Mar 17 at 2014 9:37 AM

SFC Michael Hasbun — Mon, 17 Mar 2014 09:37:04 -0400

I once had a turd who, by order of my leadership at the time, was untouchable. They were so desperate to get rid of him that they wouldn't risk any UCMJ actions delaying his departure. It worked though.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 18 at 2014 8:21 AM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 18 Oct 2014 08:21:36 -0400

SSG Ward,

You are 100% correct, it is way easier to get a good Soldier with a ETS. There needs to be checks and balances for any sort of admin discharge due and if there wasn't I can safely bet that a lot of CoCs would kick out everyone who had a major issue like a bad divorce, credit issues, acclimatization to the Army issues (junior Soldiers). While I think it is reprehensible that we are getting rid of good quality Soldiers and I think it is good that it is hard to kick a Soldier out.

Response by SGT Jose Perdelia-Torres made Oct 15 at 2015 1:24 PM

SGT Jose Perdelia-Torres — Thu, 15 Oct 2015 13:24:59 -0400

double posting..I apologize.

Response by SGT Jose Perdelia-Torres made Oct 15 at 2015 1:31 PM

SGT Jose Perdelia-Torres — Thu, 15 Oct 2015 13:31:07 -0400

It's harder and upsetting because sometimes you feel that if it was your Soldier you could have made the difference in their mindset. The most difficult chapter I had to conduct was on my Soldier that stated he would not cooperate in any way unless he was shown respect (which isn't bad but his tone was terrible). He had respect for me, but still wanted the Army to pay since it was kicking him out and doing it to him in a way that he didn't like. It was like tug of war at times, it was very difficult.