Does Germany really have 2-month-long field exercises supporting NATO that are considered deployments?

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 23 Jan 2018 13:56:25 -0500

Why do they consider them deployments is it because of the duration or are they giving out combat patches or something?

Response by SPC David Willis made Jan 23 at 2018 1:58 PM

SPC David Willis — Tue, 23 Jan 2018 13:58:26 -0500

Technically, I believe a deployment is simple leaving your duty station with a unit for a predetermined amount of time. It doesn't have to mean a combat tour.

Response by LCpl Shane Couch made Jan 23 at 2018 2:05 PM

LCpl Shane Couch — Tue, 23 Jan 2018 14:05:54 -0500

deployment
noun
1.
the movement of troops or equipment to a place or position for military action.
"the authorities announced deployment of extra security forces in towns and cities to prevent violence"
2.
the action of bringing resources into effective action.
"the rapid deployment of high-speed cable Internet services to consumers"

Response by SSG Wayne Work made Jan 24 at 2018 12:04 AM

SSG Wayne Work — Wed, 24 Jan 2018 00:04:52 -0500

Yep. Some of their grunts and armor units used to spend almost 1/2 a yr in the field. I suspect that because their enlistment for most is only 2 yrs. Unless they reenlist for more and go to a specially school. Good people to work with. Did a few exercise with them and other NATO units. Reforgure 1988 was WAY fun. Glad it was only an exercise. Units were tripping over each other in Germany.

Response by SFC Michael Hasbun made Jan 24 at 2018 6:45 AM

SFC Michael Hasbun — Wed, 24 Jan 2018 06:45:50 -0500

deployment
dəˈploimənt/Submit
noun
1.
the movement of troops or equipment to a place or position for military action.
"the authorities announced deployment of extra security forces in towns and cities to prevent violence"
2.
the action of bringing resources into effective action.
"the rapid deployment of high-speed cable Internet services to consumers"

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 24 at 2018 3:31 PM

LTC Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 24 Jan 2018 15:31:06 -0500

SGT Private RallyPoint Member you do not get a combat patch unless you are in a combat zone receiving IDP.

Response by PVT Mark Brown made Jan 24 at 2018 3:38 PM

PVT Mark Brown — Wed, 24 Jan 2018 15:38:24 -0500

I sure hope not. Now that is UNFAIR to those of us who are or have actually deployed to a real hostile fire location.

Response by SSG Edward Tilton made Jan 24 at 2018 4:32 PM

SSG Edward Tilton — Wed, 24 Jan 2018 16:32:00 -0500

Since when would you get a combat patch just for deploying where there is no combat

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 25 at 2018 1:33 PM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 25 Jan 2018 13:33:13 -0500

In an undated memo entitled "USEUCOM GENADMIN FOR DEPLOYMENT FORCE HEALTH PROTECTION GUIDANCE," deployment is defined as travel to or through the USEUCOM AOR, with expected or actual time in country (aka "boots on ground") for a period of greater than 30 days, excluding shipboard operations. The memo says that pre-deployment requirements are only required for deployments greater than 30 days to areas without a permanent military treatment facility. For example, we did a 7 week exercise across 5 countries. We had to do PDHAs and PDHRAs, but we colloquially called it an exercise, though technically a deployment by EUCOM standards. We did not get a combat patch, HFP/IDP, or get our dwell time reset. Units going to Poland for 6 months, however, do get their dwell reset (although no combat patch/HFP/IDP). So these aren't combat deployments, but are technically deployments.

Response by CPT William Jones made Nov 6 at 2020 1:44 AM

CPT William Jones — Fri, 06 Nov 2020 01:44:11 -0500

A deployment is any assjgnment outside the USA for any period not to just hostile fire zones. You may be anywhere in the world outside CONUS. The something is they were deployed outside CONUS.