Does rank play a role in RallyPoint discussions? Are you intimidated by higher ranks?

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Response by CSM Charles Hayden made Apr 20 at 2015 10:54 PM

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SSG Ronald Williams, Are you kidding? Intimidated by rank - on the net? With a BPED date of 1953?

Besides that, the Army Times of 16FEB15 reports there are 4,257 ea. 0-6s in the Regular Army and only 3,505 ea. E-9s. Who has the most Soldier contact?

Response by MSgt Steven Holt, NRP, CCEMT-P made Apr 20 at 2015 10:56 PM

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I'm sitting behind a computer hundreds of miles from most members. What is there to be afraid of?

Response by GySgt Joe Strong made Apr 20 at 2015 10:57 PM

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There are folks who will use an appeal to their own authority in discussions, just point out the fallacy(unless they happen to be an actual SME) and move on.

Response by LCpl Mark Lefler made Apr 20 at 2015 10:58 PM

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No reason to be, yes I got out as a Lcpl, but I'm 40 yrs old, i have kids, i have a job, i've gone to college, just because someone is a higher rank doesnt mean they're a better person, or smarter or anything, it just means they're really successful at doing military related things, which is something to be proud of dont get me wrong, its damn hard to do, but on RP we talk about alot of things, many of them a civilian could comment on and be knowledgeable.

Response by SGT Richard H. made Apr 20 at 2015 11:01 PM

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I'm not intimidated by higher ranks on RP....but then again, I wasn't in person either. Some of you have seen me say it before: if you're doing things right, it doesn't matter who's watching.

Response by GySgt Joe Gauntt made Apr 20 at 2015 11:03 PM

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All serve equally.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 20 at 2015 11:12 PM

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Not even intimidated by rank in person.....do show respect though!!

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 20 at 2015 11:27 PM

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I've openly disagreed with Colonels and Sergeants Major on here with no issues. As long as you're respectful and professional there's no reason to be intimidated. I like to think we're all here to learn and share in camaraderie, regardless of what we wear on our collar.

Response by MSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 20 at 2015 11:29 PM

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Nope not at all.

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 20 at 2015 11:37 PM

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Honestly, a little. The Army is a surprisingly small organization. You never know who you will meet in real life, who might hold a grudge, and how that could affect your career. That said, I am the type of person who never backs down from a "fight," so I do not actually alter my comments accordingly. :-)

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 20 at 2015 11:37 PM

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Very much so lol i dont see a SGT parking only anywhere on any base lol

Response by SGT John Wesley made Apr 20 at 2015 11:38 PM

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As a veteran, I still give due respect to higher ranking people on RP (lower ranking too!), but am not intimidated by them.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 20 at 2015 11:39 PM

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Oohh you meant on here RP. Haha

Response by COL Charles Williams made Apr 20 at 2015 11:41 PM

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It is not really fair for me to answer SSG Ronald Williams , as I am retired Colonel.

I am always respectful to all, and I appreciate everyone's perspective. I hope I am doing nothing overtly to intimidate anyone.

Response by SGT Edward Thomas made Apr 20 at 2015 11:44 PM

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Being respectful is not the same as being intimidated. We can all disagree without resorting to name calling or intimidation. I have known some members here on RP for a very long time. SFC Robert Giffin said it best. Where else can a young SPC or PFC interact with a CSM or a COL and feel like he has a unique opportunity to gain some insight into issues that may be important to all? I remember being assigned to JCSE back in 1989 and I was afforded a unique opportunity to learn there wasn't always the Army way to do things. I learned from all branches of service represented. Formed some of the longest lasting friendships ever.

Response by SFC Michael Jackson, MBA made Apr 20 at 2015 11:50 PM

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I'm not intimidated by higher ranks. However, i do respect them as much as I would if we were face to face. It's just the Soldier in me

Response by SrA Kelly Richard made Apr 21 at 2015 12:03 AM

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BLUF: YES!

Even though it was my job to brief all ranks, especially those much higher than my own, and give my best assessment with confidence, and working in an ops world, you don't have time to be intimidated or time to be a jerk... Yet on this site, intimidated? The lower enlisted? With the exception of very few... yes, absolutely! I didn't even start using this site until one week prior to separation, and I set up my account almost two years ago! Especially with everything being in text. Someone can read something and take it the wrong way. I have a multitude of examples backing this up just from using this site for two weeks now. Even for someone that is not doing anything wrong or out of line, perception is reality, and someone's perception via text could be that you are out of line, or being sarcastic, if you're only speaking bluntly. You can't hear the tone in text, and with all of these heated debates and opinions flying around, one person interpreting the wrong way may act upon their emotions causing unnecessary trouble for the individual. You putting someone's career on the line over opinions, well, yeah why wouldn't that be intimidating?

Response by Capt Brandon Charters made Apr 21 at 2015 12:12 AM

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SSG Ronald Williams, You hit on one of the most unique aspects of the community. Mentorship here has no boundary based on rank, physical location, or experience. I've seen some of the most interesting and well thought out advice coming from junior enlisted members and NCOs. If you were in command for a day, wouldn't you want to hear what your troops truly cared about? I hope rank never impedes with the fresh ideas and valuable discussions we see here on a daily basis.

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 21 at 2015 12:34 AM

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Whether or not it plays an official role, whether or not there are people officially reporting back to 'leadership' it is realistic to recognize that public comments are public so act accordingly.

Response by SSG Warren Hall made Apr 21 at 2015 12:38 AM

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As I responded to COL Williams, I am not intimidated by it as I am retired. I respect it as I always have and will normally use your title when I respond to a post in which I either agree or disagree. But I will always be respectful of it. You earned it and I will never disrespect or try and take that away from you.

Response by CPL Jay Freeman made Apr 21 at 2015 1:01 AM

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I drove for our company commander and talk to our L.T.C. from time to time earned a coin from the 1 star General in charge of the Alaskan area and the 3 star General of the European forces. So no not intimated by rank I respect it and find it easier to respect the person

Response by Cpl Patrick Reade made Apr 21 at 2015 1:02 AM

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Negatory

Response by PO3 John Jeter made Apr 21 at 2015 1:42 AM

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I admit I was at first apprehensive about it. The more I thought about it, the more convinced I am that Rallypoint is an excellent medium for clear communication. Here, there are no boundaries of decorum or appearance to maintain. We all have open access to the different viewpoints that different ranks may have about the same subject. I have gained a great deal of insight about subjects that I wish I had known back in my day. I hope that the reverse can be said as well. Not only across the ranks, but across the branches as well. I have to confess it gets a bit difficult at times to hold an exchange with any Marine without wanting to jab at them a little, and the chance to razz a Marine Officer is a cherished opportunity! *grin* I'm hoping that this board will be around for a long time. This is a tool that can only increase in it's value as time goes on.

Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 21 at 2015 4:07 AM

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I think it is understandable to be intimidated by someone's rank, or at least an impulse to listen to what someone of a higher rank has to say. But the reality is, sites like these level the playing field to see/understand an individual, rather than seeing it as an alternative chain of command. *That doesn't mean bashing others is okay, and it certainly doesn't condone what you can/should post on this site is not an issue. We are all service members, and we must remember that ANYTHING we post on this site is a reflection of ourselves, our service, and (if still serving) our unit.

Response by TSgt David Holman made Apr 21 at 2015 4:08 AM

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As long as you approach things from a standpoint of respect, then why would you be afraid. I have the same philosophy in real life.

Response by SFC Stephen King made Apr 21 at 2015 4:52 AM

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I am not intimidated by Rank. I do respect experience regardless of rank. In my short time on RP I have enjoy the knowledge from all regardless of rank. I appreciate the open forum, humor and perspectives that is freely demonstrated.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 21 at 2015 5:18 AM

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I am not intimidated by rank on or off of RallyPoint. However, their rank does make certain respects and customs/courtesies and I will of course oblige those towards persons. That does not mean I will keep my thoughts, opinions or anything of the sort to myself.

Knowing your place is all well and good, but knowing how to voice your opinions in a tactful manner will allow for a lot. Every service member, from lowest enlisted member to the highest officer, has ideas and thoughts. Just because you are on the higher end of the totem pole does not mean you know everything and will have all of the best of ideas.

Response by SGM Mikel Dawson made Apr 21 at 2015 6:17 AM

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I think its a great deal for a younger service member to communicate and get advice from older and higher ranking service member. Not being face to face lets a person have more wiggle room.

Of course in my career, I always said what I thought and to whom I needed to. Let me be clear, by no means was is disrespectful of higher ranks. There was a way to talk and a way not to talk.

Response by Maj Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 21 at 2015 6:40 AM

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Only slightly, but generally no. That's one of the main things I like about RP, you can speak your mind without worrying about how your words are taken. Not to say I don't take a little extra care to be deliberately respectful when addressing an O-6 or something.

Response by CPT Aaron Kletzing made Apr 21 at 2015 7:30 AM

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There have been a few times when I thought to myself, "Am I really about to disagree with an E-9 on this issue?" -- knowing some of them have been/were in the military longer than I have been alive. Haha. :-)

Response by TSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 21 at 2015 7:35 AM

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Intimidated? No. But I am mindful that I maintain proper decorum and levels of respect. But I am not afraid of disagreeing either.

Response by Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS made Apr 21 at 2015 7:44 AM

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There's a certain point in your careeer where it's just more "stripes" or "bars." For everyone I think it's a little different.

I was a staff guy, so I was exposed to SNCO & the Officer Corps early in my career. I'm not "skittish" around brass and haven't been since I was a very junior LCpl. "They" can smell fear.

The nice part of my career was being able to interact with so many different ranks. On my second enlistment, I was roughly the same age as many of the Lt's and I was stationed on Quantico, so there was a level of "peerage" that happened just from being in the same age bracket. Being a Sgt at that time meant that I interacted with them on a professional but less formal level (we were able to sit and chat about work related topics in a less regimented way... Very mentor/mentor since we could share vice up/down).

Being at MCU also meant I dealt with Capt/Maj constantly in a Instructor/Student capacity so my outlook shifted probably 1-2 ranks earlier than normal (and about 4-8 years).

Response by CPL Brendan Hayes made Apr 21 at 2015 7:47 AM

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This site comes across as a great way to share experiences and exptertise without having to worry about the formality of rank. Respect and courtesy should of course always be used, but I have never felt intimidated by someone's rank while on RP.

Response by PV2 Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 21 at 2015 8:23 AM

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I'm not intimidated. I try to be respectful to everyone regardless of rank. We all put our pants on the same way. As an admin, I will also remind folks, no matter their rank of their conduct on here as well.

Response by SFC Collin McMillion made Apr 21 at 2015 8:41 AM

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I don't believe I have ever been intimidated by rank, only a matter of knowing the rank and showing the proper respect. A human in just a human no matter what insignia they have on. My problem with rank is sometimes we are forced to show respect to someone who doesn't deserve it regardless, to NCOS and/or Officers, who try to intimidate with their rank. I highly value the knowledge of ranking personel who know what they are talking about, but dispise those who, due to their rank, try to force their stupidity on you.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 21 at 2015 8:44 AM

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Im not intimidated because i know that if i use tact i will be fine. Obviously im not going to see a CPT on here and tell him that he is a blooming idiot because of his idea or response to a question. All you have to do is use your brain no matter if you are going to dispute what someone says or not.

Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 21 at 2015 9:03 AM

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It's really scary.

Response by SrA Edward Vong made Apr 21 at 2015 9:36 AM

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I was never intimidated by higher ranks to begin with, while I was serving, or on Rallypoint, I do however respect the experience that generally comes with the rank and their decisions and ideas.

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 21 at 2015 10:43 AM

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I would say no. I have entered into some discussions with officer that outrank me. It is fun to see when you get a profile view from the pentagon. It makes me wonder what is going on. But I am sure they are seeking my insight and knowledge.

Response by SSG Gerhard S. made Apr 21 at 2015 10:48 AM

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I see no difference, other than I try to refer to officers by Sir/Ma'am, or by their rank. Otherwise, I see this as a forum for a civil exchange of ideas. Even where there's disagreement, I try to argue respectfully to all members, regardless of rank.

Response by COL Jean (John) F. B. made Apr 21 at 2015 10:50 AM

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I don't think rank does, nor should it, play a role in RallyPoint discussions. I do think that experience does, however, and, most times, experience comes with rank/position/time in service.

Each rank has its own unique perspective and all contribute to great discussions. What I see or have seen from my ranks/positions may be totally different than what was seen by other folks of different ranks/positions. A combination of all these different viewpoints creates good communication and allows participants to see things form positions they may not have considered before.

Response by SGT(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 21 at 2015 10:50 AM

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I am not intimidated, I always response with respect, not just to rank but at anyone's way of think. What I can say is that yes, rank plays a role in RallyPoint in the way that people looks at discussions or response to them. Also, if someone with a high rank answers to a question posted here, odds are that more people will answer too. SSG Ronald Williams

Response by Lt Col Jim Coe made Apr 21 at 2015 11:15 AM

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I suppose some might consider me to be of "higher" rank because I was an O-5. I don't see myself that way. I'm simply a retired veteran. Some RP members have prefaced their commitments to me with "sir". I respect the discipline from which that comes, but I don't desire or expect it.

Since I'm retired I'm not intimidated by rank, but try to be equally respectful to all.

WRT the platoon sergeant question, I think most replies were intended to mentor the young SM.

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 21 at 2015 11:34 AM

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I voted yes because there wasn't a "I get cautious around higher ranks" option. I don't get intimidated per say but I get hyper vigilant about how my posts could be taken. I sometimes get a little irreverent online and so I take the extra 5... well 10... okay I'll be honest 15min to make sure I am not being "that guy".

Response by SPC Mark Beard made Apr 21 at 2015 12:25 PM

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no not intimidated by rank we are all Military past present Brothers and sisters in arms

Response by PO1 Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 21 at 2015 12:31 PM

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I think if someone is intimidated by higher ranks, they probably have no business even having an account on here. The posts here aren't going to be about the club you went to last night (I hope), so inevitably you're going to get heated by the opinions others have on issues that, being active duty or retired, control your life. It's time to engage the thick skin and hope that the senior folks on here can discuss issues on here without pulling the "I'm going to email your *enter senior title*"

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 21 at 2015 12:41 PM

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Intimidated, no. But, I am highly appreciative of the senior leaders that take time to weigh in on discussions.

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 21 at 2015 12:59 PM

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No intimidated but I do place more weight on the thoughts of those with higher rank, not because of their rank, but because of the experience that comes with said rank.

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 21 at 2015 2:50 PM

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I can see how rank may be intimidating for currently serving members, particularly the younger ones. However, as long as you play by the rules, it shouldn't be an issue.
Aside from that I do think rank and service status is relevant in certain military discussion threads. It helps prioritize and gives weight to the advice given. As a former specialist who ETSd ten years ago, my most common contribution is general advice that a service member can get from anywhere or a specific recollection on how I handled a similar situation (to the topic). A recent thread about a young private asking about cars and ft Stewart illustrates this perfectly. I probably shouldn't have contributed to the discussion, I was tdy to Stewart once or twice almost fifteen years ago. I'm not familiar with the base and anything I remember is horribly out dated. But I remembered being a young soldier and tried to give him some advice about purchasing a car (Considering I have seven). If he decides to buy one I hope it helps. Luckily for him, someone saw his thread and tagged a CSM currently stationed at ft Stewart. Much better, specific advice was then given.
On the flipside, non specific or non military discussions rank and service status don't matter.

So yes, rank does matter, in context.

Response by CMSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 21 at 2015 2:53 PM

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I always walk to the beat of "respect rank emphatically, yet never fear it". It has worked for me.

Response by A1C Jared Gonzalez made Apr 21 at 2015 4:19 PM

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I am a Veteran, so nobody here can pull rank on me. It didn't work that great when I was enlisted anyhow. Being intimidated is being afraid, and the only person who frightens me is myself.

Response by WO1 Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 21 at 2015 4:35 PM

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Respect is given to all Service Members regardless of rank.
I'm not intimidated by rank on RP.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 21 at 2015 5:06 PM

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Nope.

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 21 at 2015 5:28 PM

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I try to give earned respect to all people, regardless of rank.

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 21 at 2015 5:29 PM

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Yes but out of respect for perspective and out of faith that the promotion system "usually" works. However, I expect respect to be given down as it is given up.

Response by SGT Shane Killgore made Apr 21 at 2015 5:32 PM

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absolutely not!!! We all wore the same uniform at one point ... same color of blood ..Rank is just a insignia based on someone's experience (my personal opinion) as long its not offensive towards someone else...Everyone has the right to their own opinion.

Response by SFC Michael Hasbun made Apr 21 at 2015 5:36 PM

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Intimidated? No. But have I seen people try to use their rank as a "I don't actually have any cogent points, but I still want to win the debate" card? Certainly...

Response by CSM Michael Lynch made Apr 21 at 2015 5:38 PM

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I enjoy seeing all of us interacting on here regardless of rank or status we can always learn something form other no matter what the age, rank, veteran, NG, Reserve or Active duty. I am pleased with the results. Don't get me wrong though I know how to present a professional dialogue as well as not so much if it's needed, and I always know how to use tact either way. Salutes

Response by SGT Rick Ash made Apr 21 at 2015 5:41 PM

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No, not at all. I have made several phone friends that are Full Birds and LTC's, lots of Captains. It's actually fun to read their posts and see the same spelling & grammar mistakes made by E-4's or SGT's. Nearly everyone does it occasionally.

I am out of the military, retired from 31 years of Sales Consulting for Data Center Technology, and have enough money to live very well for another 30 years. I started, built up and sold 3 different companies for a handsome profit. I am preparing to sell the 4th too, I am basically getting paid for the goodwill of transitioning several large companies over to the buyer.

I'm sure not perfect but by now I am insulated from any military officer. I'm a sinner, I pray for forgiveness every day. When people get stuck in a ditch or even their backyard I am the one they call for help. Even filed my taxes on time on April 15th.... :-)

Response by Col Matthew Fritz made Apr 21 at 2015 5:54 PM

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Absolutely not. The true benefit of communities like RallyPoint is that they are public communities--not the cloistered ranks of the military. As such, comments or questions posted for discussion on this board are intended for public consumption (vice constrained to one group or another). There are positive and negative consequences for engaging in such open and public consequences, but rank should have nothing to do with it. If it's on this board, it's intended for general discussion. In fact--that's why I like communities like RallyPoint, GeneralLeadership, etc which provide open forums for positive and enriching discussion on issues that matter to our teammates. Keep 'em coming!

Response by PO1 Glenn Boucher made Apr 21 at 2015 9:04 PM

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I have not seen anyone try and pull rank on here, although there are some rude and disrespectful opinions by some people, I think its not intentional and just part of their passion on a topic.
I think its great that officer and enlisted alike can give fair and honest opinions here and not have someone get into a hissy fit over it.
While it may rankle some peoples skivvies when being disagreed with or shown a different point of view, its all part of our growing process which will not stop until they day we die.
I see a lot of joking and assistance given here and for me its been a pretty good place to interact with other veterans and active duty.

Response by CPT Ahmed Faried made Apr 21 at 2015 9:22 PM

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I am not intimidated. As long as tact is used, I find that I can disagree with anyone. Rank notwithstanding. I've had disagreements, lively ones, with one particular COL on here as well as a few other officers that outrank me. When you are right, you are right. Just be tactful.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 21 at 2015 11:21 PM

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In my opinion Rank does play important role when it comes to sharing of knowledge, experience or seeking mentorship. It should not be intimidating. Any service member should be able to state freely their views and opinions professionally and with tact.

I personally prefer Rallypoint over Facebook military pages as things at some point get out of hand.

Response by SPC Christopher Smith made Apr 21 at 2015 11:27 PM

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I play nice since some people on here are easy to get into their feelings, I fear no man nor his title/position. I speak my mind, I try my best to use references for my position, no one has to like what I say, but they should respect that I speak from a certain level of experience and intelligence.

Response by CPL(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 22 at 2015 6:49 AM

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Hah, no.

Response by SMSgt James Williams made Apr 22 at 2015 8:55 AM

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Intimidated? No. I do take stock in what those of higher rank have to say though. I value their experience and expertise in many things. I would hope they would do the same for those who they out rank. I have learned many things from both higher and lower ranks. But as far as intimidated...nope.

Response by SCPO David Lockwood made Apr 22 at 2015 12:44 PM

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Why should anyone be intimidated by rank? We are all people here, with that said respect is a given and that the rank an individual has does command the proper level of respect. Being in here in RP everyone has opinions (and that is just what they are, opinions) and no one should get offended by comments made.

Response by Sgt Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 22 at 2015 1:19 PM

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Everyone on Rally Point should be treated with respect regardless of rank. Outside of the rank, we're all human.

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 22 at 2015 1:20 PM

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It's a social media website, it is not MOL, AKO.. so rank shouldn't matter on here since whoever is behind that keyboard is probably drinking or trolling

Response by SSG Dave Rogers made Apr 22 at 2015 1:53 PM

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If I was still on active service and was saying something wrong I might, as you worry about seeing that person at your next assignment, or them contacting command, but being as I am not being disrespectful nor doing things that are outside of the UCMJ and I am no longer in the service, I could not care who I talk too..Now that I think about it, I was never worried about that while in service. You are talking to a guy who went to the CSM of his command when he was a private and told him he was wearing his ribbons wrong after asking him to sign out his own weapon for the range. My 1SG made me do 100 push-ups in my dress uniform, while the CSM made me the command flag bearer. (if you are wondering why we were wearing dress uniforms while signing out weapons for the range, we were having a dress inspection the morning and range in the afternoon). Yes I was one of those privates that followed regs, and thought everyone else should too.. often got me into hot water with commanders..

Response by MAJ Robert (Bob) Petrarca made Apr 22 at 2015 2:55 PM

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Respectful, absolutely. Intimidated, never.

Response by SSG Christopher Parrish made Apr 22 at 2015 3:44 PM

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I am not intimidated by higher ranks here or elsewhere. I do however maintain a healthy respect for the rank and make sure to maintain my bearing.

A great example is this past weekend. I was a member of a team competing in a Commander's Small Unit competition and during one exercise my team stepped outside the box on a challenge using materials and methods that were not restricted based on the tasks, conditions and standards laid out by the competition cadre. When we were called on it, as the team leader I promptly began to professionally debate the issue with a WO2, in front of my COL. I was corrected on my argument and we were allowed to start the event over with no penalties. I think that is largely due to the fact while I called the WO2 out on not being clear I was professional about it.

Response by Sgt Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 22 at 2015 3:48 PM

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What would be the point of having this platform of discussion if you were just going to let someone elses position deter you from putting forth your thoughts on an issue.

Response by Maj Bill Smith, Ph.D. made Apr 22 at 2015 3:52 PM

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Not intimidated at all. Besides being a Mustang and now retired, I have reached the highest rank possible: "retired old geezer." I spent a career in the Air Force with three of those years assigned to the U.S Army. I have taught and worked with both military and civilians of all the services and even spent 2 year assigned to a Navy Base. And as an aside, I met many fine Marines and in my final assignment was very thankful for their providing security for me and my family. Unfortunately, there we a few who didn't let their rank or lack of rank keep them from being a-holes, down right stupid, or disappointedly kiss-ass idiots. Lots of stories like any other career military. Anda few were not cut out for the military. Thank the Lord for the 97% of the people I met were dedicated military and civilians and were very much a pleasure to meet and to work with.

Response by CPL Matthew Yates made Apr 22 at 2015 4:04 PM

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Respect the man...not the rank...normal social etiquette is expected and this shouldn't be a forum where a Private E-I owe you 1 thinks his opinion deserves disrespecting someone of greater rank...but even when I've seen some things said that raise an eyebrow, there seems to be a conversational "smoke session" that puts people back in their place...or at least someone learns something from the iteration...

Response by Sgt Lonnie Rush made Apr 22 at 2015 4:13 PM

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It depends on your status. Veterans and Retired are not active duty so they are not under the same rules. Active duty and Reserves on the other hand do have to be careful because it can be held against you in the military. If you are active just use the same tact and courtesy that you would if you were talking face to face.

Response by SFC(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 22 at 2015 4:24 PM

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First this is not in person,but even on social media i treat people the way i want to be treated. I have never been intimidated by higher rank in person as long as you are a professional rank does not matter.

Response by SPC Charles Brown made Apr 22 at 2015 4:44 PM

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SSG Ronald Williams, I have never been intimidated by rank, whether it is here or while I was in the service. As human beings we must all put our uniforms on one leg at a time. So what if someone earns more money than I did or do, it does NOT make them better than me!! I am no better than anyone else and probably worse than some, I have been accused of hating officers by some here on this site. Let me make my feelings about this belief perfectly clear, I don't hate officers, I served under some of the finest men and women officers while on duty; however, there are those who have contributed to the breakdown in military and unit cohesion. These are the officers that I have a problem with. By and large the NCO corps is and has been the greatest contributors to my development while serving my country. I am the son of a retired Army Master Sergeant (deceased now for 20+ years) and he raised me as one of his troops, great lessons in life were learned at the cost of a few spankings and other valuable learning tools he had available to him back in the formative years of my youth. Sadly today many of those motivational tools are not available for use in modern society. But that is a different conversation. Great question, thanks for asking.

C.

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 22 at 2015 4:50 PM

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Personally, I'm not intimidated by higher ranks on Rally Point.

I think you can learn something from everyone, whether they are higher or lower in rank.

In fact, I've come across some pretty darn insightful posts from the E-1 to E-4 ranks.

I'd have to dig it up, but I could have sworn I just read a post from an E-4, who had his PhD, last night.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 22 at 2015 6:24 PM

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I try to treat everyone with respect, however the days where rank mattered are long past. Someone with a high rank should be proud of their accomplishments, however they should understand that their rank holds no power outside the military.

Response by SSG John Erny made Apr 22 at 2015 6:33 PM

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Why should I be, I am retired! On the other hand I will keep my military bearing and show respect just the same.

Response by SPC Chelsea Fernandez made Apr 22 at 2015 7:55 PM

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My reasoning is that we're all adults here and everyone is entitled to their opinions on here . If you feel that anything I say or what other say offends you then you need to get yourself evaluated.

Response by CDR Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 22 at 2015 9:00 PM

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Why would I be intimidated by higher ranks on an online discussion forum? Unless the person is in my chain of command and signs my Fitness Report, in this environment they are just another opinion. Rank just gives you a chance to figure out how much experience they have and the context for their comments.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 22 at 2015 9:03 PM

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Heck no. If they come on RP looking for a discussion, they're going to get one. Besides, it is also my job to answer a superior's question, with an honest and forthright answer.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 22 at 2015 9:37 PM

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Rank doesn't intimidate me in person, either. Whether I'm addressing a PVT or a GEN, I tend to stick to professionalism first and foremost. I do tend to relax and be more familiar with peers and juniors once I get to know them and we've established a rapport, but I stay professional with seniors at all times, for the most part. The only times I haven't have been when I've been a Platoon Sergeant, at which point I felt it was important to be more on a personal level with the First Sergeant behind closed doors.

Response by PO3 Ken Jeschonek made Apr 22 at 2015 10:11 PM

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As it was when I was still on active duty. No I am not intimidated by higher ranking people, then, now nor here. I give professional respect to those higher in the pecking order than myself because it is warranted, and I show respect to those I like/admire personally because they know the difference.

Response by SPC Angel Guma made Apr 23 at 2015 12:20 AM

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Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 23 at 2015 12:52 AM

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My thoughts are if you can't have a disagreement on here in a professional manner than don't have one. It is the same as any other social media site, once it is entered it is here forever.
I am a person that is paid now to disagree with the norm and look at ideas differently, and I come by it naturally, so I have never had a problem and probably never will have a problem being intimidated on here or in person.

Response by SGT Kristin Wiley made Apr 23 at 2015 3:04 AM

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Higher ranks are not intimidating. What's intimidating are the individuals who abuse the intent of rallypoint. Many of the members are still active duty, and come here to speak freely about what they are seeing around the armed forces. Rallypoint needs to be free to discuss these issues without fear of someone complaining to a chain of command because you don't like what they said or how they approached an issue. We come from different cultures, backgrounds, and experiences. We need to respect EVERYONE and understand that a lack of experience is an opportunity for leaders to provide guidance. We are responsible for building a better future for our military, we need to ensure it is a future we can be proud of.

Response by SrA Elizabeth Fontenot made Apr 23 at 2015 3:24 AM

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If the question is something I feel I can answer I will answer.

Response by PV2 Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 23 at 2015 6:51 AM

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There's no reason for any intimidation on RP as long as you hold bearing and respect for your fellow peers everything should be fine lower ranks such as myself might feel a little intimidation but we are all here to share knowledge amongst each other and have fun.

Response by PO2 Johnathan Kerns made Apr 23 at 2015 9:17 AM

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I'm not intimidated...but then again I'm a civilian nowadays ;) If I were still AD I would definitely be more cautious because I seem to notice quite a few blue falcons on social media

Response by CPO Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 23 at 2015 10:51 AM

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I don't worry about rank, but you have to be rrspectful to all. No matter what rank.

Response by SPC Donte Hill made Apr 23 at 2015 12:08 PM

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Nope I've worked in a BDE Hq, Forscom, and now USARAF. We all put our pants on one leg at a time.

Response by MSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 23 at 2015 3:59 PM

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As a junior enlisted member, I would refrain from engaging with an officer or senior leader in a heated or strongly opinionated subject. Although, I find RP an awesome platform to connect with and gain insight from those above me! Leaders in our own units might not always have the time to sit down and "chat" about the little things. I've always appreciated the ability to ask questions and participate in conversations with such a diverse group of ranked individuals!

As long as I am being respectful and maintaining my bearing by addressing others by their rank and showing humility whens speaking to members who are lower ranking than me (who seem to be few and far between, haha) then I don't get uncomfortable :)

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 23 at 2015 5:32 PM

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If I felt intimidated by higher rank, that would rank higher than I could tolerate and I wouldn't stay with RP.

Response by Col Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 23 at 2015 5:34 PM

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Nope, doesn't bother me. I welcome the mentoring received by senior officers, and I enjoy mentoring those under me. The military has conditioned me to have thick skin, and patience.

Response by Maj Chris Nelson made Apr 23 at 2015 5:38 PM

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I handle rank on Rally Point like I do in-person on base.... Respect but not intimidated.

Response by TSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 23 at 2015 6:21 PM

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Personally, I tend to seek out the higher ranks thoughts and opinions. That and they have more experience than I do.

Response by SPC Makissa Lewis made Apr 23 at 2015 6:40 PM

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I guess I know I am more than my forever rank. I feel if I make concise arguments then people see my opinion matter.

Response by A1C Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 23 at 2015 7:04 PM

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I'm not intimidated by higher ranking individuals, respect is how I handle any situation. Honestly, as long as things are respectful, rank is not an issue on here. I've had situations where the advice I've gotten has really helped me. I'm actually on a TDY now because of something I asked on here before I took it up my chain, the help I got here changed how I asked it and is probably why I get to go on a great trip.

Response by PO2 Brad Fletcher made Apr 23 at 2015 7:07 PM

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Why would anybody be intimidated? I've met CEOs, senior officers, pro football players & congressmen and they are no different than other Americans except how they focus their career efforts.

Having said that, I did meet one US ambassador to Swaziland who had smug air of superiority about him. That's OK, snobs act that way to compensate for feelings of inferiority or short penises.

The beauty of the American economy is that if you are persistent & determined you can rise to any of the superior ranks in life if you have the talent.

Response by Sgt David G Duchesneau made Apr 23 at 2015 7:08 PM

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I definitely respect the higher ranks but in no way am I intimidated by it, nor should anyone be.
Just remember to always be respectful, courteous and professional.

Response by SGT John Beardsley made Apr 23 at 2015 9:00 PM

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Being a veteran, not active duty, makes a little bit of difference admittedly, but then again I wasn't known for biting my tongue after I joined the non-commissioned ranks either.

Response by MSG David Gagnon made Apr 23 at 2015 9:09 PM

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I mobbed for a year at the Pentagon on the E-Ring I was warned the people were snobs there, but I found out differently I loved working there. I worked with the Chaplain (Donna Weddle) to the CJCS ( Peter Pace), a gentlemen indeed.

Response by GySgt Steve Terry made Apr 23 at 2015 11:24 PM

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Treat everyone the way you want to be treated and there should be no problems. Dignity and respect go a long way.

Response by PO1 Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 24 at 2015 3:33 AM

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I don't scare easy even in person. As long as you are professional you can make any point you desire at an appropriate time. If you can't be professional then keep it to yourself. Otherwise, say what is on your mind when mission allows the optempo to drop enough to permit discussion. Given that optempo isn't an issue here on the inter-webs there is more opportunity to speak freely, however note that we should remain respectful while posting.

Response by SSG (ret) William Martin made Apr 24 at 2015 3:46 AM

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No matter who I speak to whether its in person, online, or on RP, the check my mouth writes is one my butt can cash. Remember to be tactful and polite.

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 24 at 2015 6:22 AM

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I think it's interesting how rank doesn't necessarily correlate to civilian pay and achievement.

Response by LTC Stephen F. made Apr 24 at 2015 10:27 AM

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I am generally not intimidated by higher ranks on Rally Point or in person. I have tried to treat each member of the military and civilians for that matter with respect and try to give people the benefit of the doubt. I have banged into many people in person and a few on RallyPoint who wear their rank or their sleeve whether in uniform or out of uniform. I have seen this in senior officers and senior NCOs usually.

Response by SSgt Marshall Franklin made Apr 24 at 2015 10:46 AM

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No, as an E3 me and a Coronal had words, however I was respectful to him. When 3 Generals showed up one pulled the Coronal to the side and said words my virgin ears never heard. My chief let me know he had respect for me. I did something that to that day he couldn't do.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made May 7 at 2015 5:03 AM

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You simply give the same respect that you would anywhere else. If someone is asking a question you give an answer or you don't respond. If you are going to be intimidated, then don't answer.
I am coming from the position of being a SSG Platoon Sergeant so I deal with my First Sergeant, Ops SGM, BN CSM on a regular basis so I have come to the point that dealing with rank is not something that intimidates me anyway. On here, this is something that is even less. I treat it the same way, I give respect to those I am dealing with and I answer questions. I think everyone else should do the same. Those that outrank us earned their respect and we should give it, regardless of the setting.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 24 at 2015 1:56 PM

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I'm not intimidated by rank at all on here or in person. Some of that may have to do with always briefing people higher then me. Specially now that I am in TRADOC and i am giving briefs and tours to enlisted that are top of the food chain and Officers who are as well. I have even had to give briefs and tours to Field Grade officers of other countries.

Response by CPL Richard Flagg made Jun 24 at 2015 8:40 PM

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Not whatsoever I will be respectful to all ranks no matter if Enlisted or Officer. I think this is something we all owe each other is Respect; sure we may bust each other's chops at times, just as long as we maintain our bearing everything will be all right.

Response by SSgt Alex Robinson made Jul 25 at 2015 10:14 AM

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No. This is a forum for the sharing of ideas. Even as a leader I am open to the the free exchange of information and ideas. I don't know it all but my team as a group probably can better solve an issue than if I mandate a process or outcome.

Response by PO1 Shahida Marmol made Jul 25 at 2015 10:33 AM

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I think it actually is great we're a mixed bunch. They give us advice on how to deal with their counterparts at our own commands. It's less formal on here, so people should be comfortable dealing with them. On top of that I'm not very imitated in person either, a smile will take you a long way =)

Response by CW4 Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 25 at 2015 10:47 AM

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On Rally Point.......No. At my job......No I'm not. Other than their rank, they put on their pants the same way that I do. As long you respect each other regardless of rank, there shouldn't be an intimidation factor involved. Being intimidated will not allow people to successful accomplish their tasks to standard or at least attempt to accomplish them. More often than not, people will not attempt something because of fear of failure or fear of what their boss might do to them and it shouldn't be that way.

Response by SSG Robert Webster made Jul 25 at 2015 11:44 AM

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Not intimidated at all. Actually have several that are friends, and have known some General Officers since they were Lieutenants or Captains.

Response by PVT Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 25 at 2015 12:28 PM

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as an e-1, absolutely terrified. Im just kidding. Everyone should respect each other equally. Rank matters and you should respecT that but what you should respect more is that we're all human beings and have served together.

Response by SSG (ret) William Martin made Jul 25 at 2015 2:57 PM

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No one intimidates me and sometimes that might be a problem. It is easier to show that in person or on the phone than in an email or on social media. I do of course remain tactful, polite, and thoughtful of the people around me.

Response by SSG (ret) William Martin made Jul 25 at 2015 3:11 PM

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I am actually intimidated by ice blue eyes that seem to pierce my soul.

Response by SSgt Tara Bunke Meyers made Jul 25 at 2015 5:27 PM

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If I was still in the service it probably would have intimidated me a little, but since I no longer am it doesn't bother me.

Response by PO1 William "Chip" Nagel made Jul 25 at 2015 6:57 PM

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Hmmmm Lets See right out of A-School I was assigned to CINCPACFLT Staff 4 star Adm Hayward. My Boss Chief of Staff for Intelligence RADM Dixon. Not to terribly long after making E-6 I was Assigned to COMSPAWARSYSCOM another Flag Officer and I was Master at Arms to the Chief of Staff a 2 Star. If anything I am very Jaded when it comes to Rank.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 25 at 2015 11:48 PM

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No.....but others have tried to use my comments against me because some one of higher rank did not agree with me and tried to back door me. instead of having a honest discussion.

Response by Maj William Gambrell made Jul 26 at 2015 12:20 AM

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No, I never allowed rank to intimidate me at the Pentagon, so why should I do it here???

Response by SFC Jacob Hinkkanen made Jul 27 at 2015 4:08 AM

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I'm sure that, in hundreds of comments and comments on comments, this has been said. If a person on RP is so insecure with themselves or other peoples' opinions then they have bigger issues. Just like any other form of social media, I use respect to all I interact with. Rank is relatively irrelevant. This being said, RP has caused me to break out the trusty inter service rank chart to figure out what a CPO135A1C or whatever was.

Response by PO3 Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 28 at 2015 12:19 PM

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I'm not intimidated by higher ranks (and really wasn't when I was in). However, I DO accord the appropriate amount of respect (unless someone's being an asshat).

I've been out a LONG time and have worked with several other veterans from all walks (including a Brigadier General), so I'm just not phased by it.

Response by SFC(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 10 at 2015 9:01 PM

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As long as you are respectful rank doesn't matter we are all here to share info, experiences, advice, learn, and most importantly camaraderie!

Response by SFC(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 10 at 2015 9:17 PM

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That's a good route and I'd say get a Fitbit I love mine and tracks everything and can help in your diet n health goals!

Response by Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS made Aug 29 at 2015 1:20 PM

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Rank adds Context. It adds perspective to the experiences of the speaker, which takes a lot longer if it was not visible.

That said, although we do make it quickly visible, the Content of our posts is where the real "weight" is. A well articulated, and reasoned post is worth far more than "just" some stripes & bars.

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 29 at 2015 1:32 PM

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I've always seen RP as a professional discussion board (although it sometimes degenerates into a bitching session). With that, I agree with SGT Kennedy that rank adds context to the responses of others. That said, we should all be cognoscent of others' backgrounds, paths to their current rank, and non-military experiences that shapes their perspective and their comments. Rank is not everything, which is why this is a great place to get answers and feedback from all levels of the military without fear of retribution.

Response by MAJ Ken Landgren made Aug 29 at 2015 2:07 PM

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I like the rank because it often tells me of a possible frame of reference.

Response by CW4 Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 29 at 2015 2:28 PM

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My opinion it doesn't matter on this forum. Basic respect for one another comes from a different place where rank has not influence. I would never use my rank as leverage on these type forums. Removing the ranks could be an option but really not important.

Response by SPC Margaret Higgins made Aug 29 at 2015 2:41 PM

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You know, I have run into two Great Generals. One, I had a very funny and fun interaction with- in the Army.
The other was a veteran; shopping at a local store. All he had he on the back of his windbreaker was: 'Army'. We had a great conversation.
My point is that Generals (and the 'higher ups' are human beings too; AND that they have EARNED their RANK.

Response by CW4 Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 29 at 2015 2:42 PM

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CPT Private RallyPoint Member, great question in my opinion and I think it shouldn't matter either way. If you let rank effect a conversation, than thats on you. For the most part all of the people that I've had the privilege of interacting with on RP have been totally respectful and honest regardless of rank. When we start to lose the respect is when we will start having issues.

Response by SPC Larry Boutwell made Aug 29 at 2015 2:45 PM

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We are all civi here lol i wont lie... I might take something a sgt or LT says over a former spc or private....but thats only because ive seen shit privates do..... I dont want advice from them most the time lol plus im getting into the older crowd.... Ill be 32 this year

Response by SPC Larry Boutwell made Aug 29 at 2015 2:47 PM

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Lol i was only a spc but people really seem to like the things i have to say

Response by Capt Seid Waddell made Aug 29 at 2015 3:10 PM

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This is a military discussion site, and it is difficult to separate rank from the military. Rank also indicates experience and adds to my understanding of the POV expressed. I have not seen rank used in a deleterious manner in any of the discussions I have seen here and see no reason to change.

Response by SSgt Terry P. made Aug 29 at 2015 3:27 PM

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I have no problem with the rank on RP --when i see an opinion that purposes a different point of view than i am familiar with--i usually check the background of that individual for their experiences, no matter what their rank.

Response by PO1 William "Chip" Nagel made Aug 29 at 2015 3:33 PM

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Something to be said about both sides of that Argument but we did wear uniforms and we did have ranks and this is a Military Forum.

Response by MCPO Roger Collins made Aug 29 at 2015 3:48 PM

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Using a former title is honorific, unless on AD, and I see no problem with it. If fact, I see it as a plus, what I have found is we have more similarities that differences what a forum like this operates as it does. Nothing that I have seen gives weight to title or other criteria. And that is good.

Response by LCpl Mark Lefler made Aug 29 at 2015 5:03 PM

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Nah, even though my rank is low it has no real barring on my life experiences outside the military...and it shows accomplishment.

Response by COL Jon Thompson made Aug 29 at 2015 5:08 PM

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No one outranks anyone else on here but it does give context to a person's point of view and experiences in terms of military. It doesn't make anyone's viewpoints more valid than anyone else and I enjoy seeing the dialogue among people of different backgrounds. I have had some very intelligent, logical discussions with people that show junior enlisted or officer rank and have read some less than logical comments from senior officers or NCOs. I do not recall anyone trying to pull rank on RP so as long as that does not become an issue, rank should stay.

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 29 at 2015 6:18 PM

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I say keep it. Provides context. Members should remember that RP is NOT the military and ALL have the right to share their perspective, regardless of rank. If there is disagreement, do it respectfully.

Response by SFC Jon Vandeyacht made Aug 29 at 2015 6:57 PM

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I wont take professional advice from a private....
I think its ok because
1. I dont care who you are..your rank will not affect me. If your paranoid to who you give your opinion, dont give your opinion.
2. At certain rank levels, observation and opinions change, i like to know who and what level of opinion they have inwhich i read.
3. Certain branches are more strict with fraternization, so its good iot allow them to decide if they want to respond....

Response by LCDR Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 29 at 2015 7:00 PM

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I don't think it needs to be removed. I think on this site the barriers have been broken down enough that people aren't intimidated in a bad way by rank. I personally like seeing immediately who said something though including their rank.

Response by MSgt Niclas Svensson made Aug 29 at 2015 7:09 PM

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I actually like the fact that ranks are included. As others have stated, it really gives you some perspective on how different ranks, and even similar ranks in different services, see things.

Response by MSgt Curtis Ellis made Aug 29 at 2015 8:46 PM

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Being retired, it doesn't bother me one way or another, but having it does "assist in ensuring" thoughtful and respectful exchanges during discussions that, I believe, would not exist without them as RP would then become something more like a Military FaceBook, and most of us know what that's like... Here, there seems to be an unwritten "agree to disagree" policy and I haven't see any "major" disagreements yet... but then again, I've only been active here for about 3-4 months...

Response by SGT Lou Meza made Aug 29 at 2015 9:14 PM

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I like the rank shown with the name ! Gives me an idea of who I'm responding to . Those with the higher ranks obviously have more time in service than others . But that doesn't mean that their opinion is worth more than someone with less time in service . I don't respond to every thing that is posted here at RP but when I do I like knowing something about that person . I was in for only three years but the military was very good to me . Even now that I'm retired I still enjoy reading and responding to some of the questions here at RP .

Response by MSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 29 at 2015 11:57 PM

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Each and everyone on RallyPoint has earned their respective rank regardless of how long they served. Everyone's point of view and expertise adds to the discussions that are brought up here - it is nice to be able to have open discussions with all the various ranks and branches of the service represented here. I feel that the exchange of information, experiences, and view points of all the members here are relevant to both currently serving members, veterans and retired personnel. Because of my current employment, I don't always get to partake in many discussions - but it is nice to see the topics and discussions when I am able to get on-line.

Response by SFC Joseph Weber made Aug 31 at 2015 3:43 PM

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I don't think so Sir. If I didn't see your rank i would wonder when they started letting JROTC cadets join. Bada-bing!

Response by LTC Bink Romanick made Aug 31 at 2015 3:55 PM

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Not as far as I am concerned. It doesn't matter I discuss with all ranks...doesn't matter.

Response by LCDR Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 31 at 2015 4:05 PM

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I think it's not a bad proposition...though the counterpoint is that it does allow for some "caution" when addressing someone. It' probably adds to the overall respect/decorum of the site as well. I will say that I always feel like there should be an option for "Veteran" for those of us not currently wearing the uniform. I for one, sometimes feel like the "LCDR" in front of my name complicates things.

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 1 at 2015 5:02 AM

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Keep the rank it is a professional forum. People with question may appreciate know they are getting input from accross the ranks.

Response by PFC Donnie Harold Harris made Sep 1 at 2015 4:51 PM

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What would I do with My King's crown then?

Response by Cpl Mark McMiller made Sep 19 at 2015 2:00 AM

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I try to live by the motto of I'm not better than anybody and nobody is better than me. If you treat me with respect, I'll treat you with respect. If you are a ass clown, I'll treat you like a ass clown.

Response by SGT Michael Glenn made Oct 6 at 2015 1:29 PM

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I dont tend to look at rank when I address someone on here, The same practice was used when I was active duty. I have always felt that a person puts their pants on the same as I do ( I hope so anyways) one leg at a time. I think that RP poses a very unique situation with having both active and inactive duty personnel taking up the same space and both active and inactive should adjust accordingly. I did my time and have a hard time swallowing some one telling me I am out of line just because I choose to have a different view on things. I served in a whole different military all together than any of the people today just as the People before me served in a totally different military than I did. I find I respect the men and women of the military past more because there wasnt all this politically correct BS going on and the mission was to train, listen, follow orders and do what was expected of you no questions asked. Now it seems like the military is either a baby setting service or the Boy Scouts with all the nonsense I see being brought up . Officers waltzing around playing pocket pool, Subordinates being allowed to questions an NCO's integrity and choose which orders he/she wants to follow. What has happened to the military people??? To me its all about respect and if you dont respect me no matter what your rank I will not respect you, its a two way street from where I set.

Response by SGT Michael Glenn made Oct 6 at 2015 1:33 PM

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I was not intimidated during my time in service so why should I be intimidated now??? If a superior has his/her ducks in a row he/she would have no issues as to subordinates being able to say speak their peace, I call a spade a spade as the saying goes... I will not eat green eggs and ham, I will not eat them Sam I am!

Response by SSG Raymond Whitener made Oct 6 at 2015 1:37 PM

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Not at all intimidated by higher ranks commenting on here. As far as I can tell they put their pants and tie up their boots the same as I. A difference in opinion from high and low is healthy.

Response by SGT Michael Glenn made Oct 6 at 2015 1:46 PM

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I chose no just because it is something that we all earned, now having said that I dont feel that a service member should be called out in his/her unit for something that has been said on Rp because we all came into this forum knowing its designed to help the soldiers and shouldnt be used as a weapon. This is supposed to be a place to gain knowledge and help clear up issues without actually having to use the COC, so I am a firm believer that what is said on RP should stay on RP. A person reading something about a current issue a soldier is having with his/her chain should not go any further than these pages, That was the intent of RP I do believe and it challenges ones professionalism, integrity and morals to be unprofessional and hold it against a soldier who speaks out on here (within reason of course, being disrespectful to a command or admitting to any kind of foul play to a fellow soldier or a part of a unit should be addressed immediately).

Response by SGT Brett Caldwell made Oct 6 at 2015 1:57 PM

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Not the slightest. Most military/veteran friends I have either kept in touch with, or meet now, tend to be officers. Funny enough, most think I was an officer myself until I tell them otherwise.

Heck, just the other day I spent the weekend with an active Navy O6 while house hunting in Dallas.

I'm looking at nearly a decade since I separated and they're just people. I have close friends who are much higher ranks than I ever held, and other friends who are doctors, lawyers, engineers, and professors. Are they any different? No.

All that said, I'd like to think that as a veteran, I'd give the same respect to a Pvt as I would a General...assuming they haven't done anything to lose it.

I'll close by saying that there were NCOs and officers who I served under who I'll always defer to and address as "Sir" or "Sergeant Major".

Response by SGM Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 6 at 2015 5:11 PM

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1LT Trevyn Hubbs, I believe its important to know what our peers, superiors and subordinates think about an issue, especially if they need guidance or mentoring.

Response by SrA Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 6 at 2015 5:14 PM

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I don't think it should because being a young airmen, I like seeing what the NCO's, SNCO's, Officers, etc. think about a certain subject. It honestly helps me learn and develop my skills as a future supervisor/NCO. Yes it's only a website, but the insight is helpful and great for me personally.

Response by SrA David Steyer made Dec 7 at 2015 9:06 PM

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I'm not quoting it word for word but to summarize: I've been told, it's okay to disagree but there are times where you have to do what you are told and if/when you talk about the subject always be respectful. If you are respectful it's harder to fault you. In the same vein, sometime you need to yell or whatnot to bring your point up.

I remember there were times I would have no problem dealing with an O4+ or E7+ that was an intimidating person, or being difficult. However there would be times that I would be nervous with someone of those same ranks who was very friendly and flexible! And vice-versa obviously but it's funny. Some times I was fearless and other times I wasn't.

Response by SFC Joe S. Davis Jr., MSM, DSL made Dec 27 at 2015 12:56 PM

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SSG Ronald Williams it's about dignity and respect! It's no difference now that I am Retired!

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 27 at 2015 1:49 PM

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I'm not intimidated by rank on RP nor was I while serving. There are some people on here who love to throw around their rank as if they still have authority, or that they are better than everyone else. In regards to veterans, we are all the same whether a PFC to SFC to CSM to CPT to COL (all branch ranks inclusive). I treat everyone with respect until they decide to be dishonest or deceptive.

Response by CPT Jack Durish made Dec 27 at 2015 2:12 PM

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They didn't intimidate me while serving. (Maybe I wouldn't have been RIF'd if they had) I don't expect them to intimidate me now that I'm a P.F.C.

Response by PV2 Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 27 at 2015 5:56 PM

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I was forced outta the army and I don't care what rank you are or were I'll say what's on my mind

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 27 at 2015 11:28 PM

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As long as it's respectful, voice your opinions!

Response by PV2 Scott Goodpasture made Dec 28 at 2015 5:51 PM

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Well if we're a General then yes I think I would keep my sarcasm to myself

Response by CW4 Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 29 at 2015 2:29 PM

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Rank is a measure of assigned responsibility. It is NOT a measure of intelligence, ethics, or specialized knowledge. However, it does bring a perspective on how to formulate and make your point count.

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 31 at 2015 11:59 AM

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If asking a question or responding to a question or group discussion, rank shouldn't matter. This is a professional site and as long as everyone remains professional and states their opinion in a respectful manner there shouldn't been any issues. Some of the best SMEs are lower enlisted Soldiers who deal with these topics and areas on a daily basis.

Response by SSgt Joseph Cayse made May 24 at 2016 7:06 PM

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Your rank means very little to me outside the uniformed services. The kind of person you are means everything.

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 5 at 2016 8:02 PM

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Intimidated? No. Its an online forum. The only thing I see in someones rank when they post is the amount of experience they have/the position they may be in. Respect is a two way street, it even says it in AR 600-20. So Ill be respectful to anyone until they aren't respectful to me.

Response by SPC(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 5 at 2016 10:22 PM

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I'm not intimidated at all, I'm actually motivated to hear from higher ranking SM's for various reasons

1) I'm a reservist, so I don't speak with many SM's period
2) If I have a question about my career progression, there are Warrant Officers on here that will help.

My first question on here was a stupid one and I got "corrected" for lack of better terms, but there was no disrespect.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 9 at 2016 2:56 PM

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I appreciate the opportunity to challenge a senior person's way of thinking. Antagonistic in a friendly setting!

Response by SFC Bill Snyder made Jul 15 at 2016 6:49 PM

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No. Once retired, their rank and a buck gets them a cup of coffee in the locals 7-11. In my civilian job I supervised retired officers with no problem; not so with retired NCOs.

Response by PO1 Frank Reiffenstein made Oct 4 at 2016 11:33 AM

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No. They didn't intimidate me when I was active duty.

Response by CW5 Sam R. Baker made Oct 5 at 2016 9:01 AM

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Rank should not be a deciding factor on dialogue that is healthy and constructive. The views and opinions, ideas from the young and the old are equally rewarding in my humble opinion.

Response by Sgt John Steinmeier made Oct 5 at 2016 9:59 AM

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Never been intimidated by higher ranks. I do respect them though.

Response by SGM Bill Frazer made Feb 25 at 2018 8:11 PM

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Please, everyone puts their pants on the same way- heck my best man at my wedding is a close friend and a retired 1star, many of my friends are O5-and up., and some E6 and below.

Response by SFC Nate Robertson made Mar 9 at 2018 11:35 PM

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I'm not that that intimidated by rank , but 100% RESPECT their rank and achievements, just like active duty.

Response by SGT David A. 'Cowboy' Groth made Mar 10 at 2018 5:30 AM

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Don't know if rank plays a role or not, if the person was an officer I treat them with the respect due the rank. At one time I was intimidated, not any longer now that I've been IRR, and now retired.

Response by SMSgt Lawrence McCarter made Mar 10 at 2018 5:59 AM

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I don't see any reason I would be intimidated by Higher rank and in my experience it was a level of professionalism that made it possible to rise to the higher grades. I have made it a habit that if the person was a Senior Officer or NCO for example they had earned the respect but in the same token I didn't talk down to a person with one stripe either. They also have earned My respect through their service. Much of the dealings I have had with general Officers We did have two way conversations and they had sought My opinions. The fact We all serve or have served in the Armed Forces of the United States makes Me comfortable with people of all ranks Senior or junior to My own status.

Response by CWO3 Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 10 at 2018 8:11 AM

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Rank doesn't change my opinion. It does alter my delivery, out of military courtesy.

Response by MSG Louis Alexander made Mar 10 at 2018 11:20 AM

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Naturally for military people rank is respected however, in Rally Point it’s more like family a close-knit team. It’s irrelevant continuously referring to someone as Colonel, General, Sergeants Major etc. we know who they are and respect them for their position so why not chat as if we’re in friendly conversation. If Commissioned or Non-Commissioned Officers are offended by using their first name instead of rank, then brother’s you have a phobia. I direct conversation directly to the individual regardless who they are private Joe Snuffy or General Top Knot. We should be relaxed to the point where the conversations are challenging without fear of hurting someone’s sensitivity. Besides, I'm retired - lol

Response by SN Greg Wright made Mar 10 at 2018 1:55 PM

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I wasn't intimidated by rank when I was active. I once arm-barred an SES-4 because he didn't have his badge. So...no. Respect and admire? Sure. Intimidated, or think I'm somehow less accomplished? Nope.

Response by SSgt Boyd Herrst made Mar 10 at 2018 2:29 PM

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Respect to the rank.. then the person who achieved it . It’s nice to be appreciated back occasionally... and here I am . I like to think we all garner appreciation of our peers.. here on RP ..

Response by SSG Will Phillips made Mar 10 at 2018 7:26 PM

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While I was serving or on this forum, I have not been intimidated by higher ranks what so ever. Professionalism is a key part of this forum. I still refer to officers Sir or Ma'am and do my best to be respectful to them, even if we strongly disagree on a topic. Their rank deserves that. In this forum NCO's and other enlisted get the same treatment from me.

Response by SSG Eddye Royal made Mar 10 at 2018 7:48 PM

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SSG Ronald Williams, I am respectful of GOD, the person, the rank, and the information each experience brings to the table on RP. We can give JIT (Just In Time) Information to AD solivers, or AD soldiers that is transitioning from AD to IRR, or civilian career.

Response by LTC Jason Mackay made Mar 10 at 2018 11:14 PM

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I try not to stifle others. If the conversation looks like a bar brawl already, I move on. Open and thoughtful conversation is the value added of this network. We must all work to sustain that or this just become s a long version of Twitter.

Response by CW3 Jeff Held made Mar 10 at 2018 11:38 PM

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Not at all.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 11 at 2018 7:53 AM

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I'm not intimidated. My Father was a 27 year Signal Officer. All I saw growing up were silver and gold adornments on collar tabs. Called a lot of them by their 1st names because that's the way dad introduced them. In the real world I respect the rank and call it as I see it. On a forum like this, the Col is just one of the guys.

Response by 1SG Dave Carello made Mar 11 at 2018 9:22 AM

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One beauty of this site is that I observe mutual respect across the board which is perhaps a result of all of us being veterans or, having served in the Military. I am not now, nor have I ever been intimidated by rank, I do however render respect where it is due.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 11 at 2018 6:18 PM

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No, but I do respect the rank

Response by SPC Brent Melton made Mar 11 at 2018 11:51 PM

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It doesn't matter what their rank is/was. What matters is how they treat others in their responses. If they're a douche now, they were a douche then, and that is a personality trait they can't fix.

Response by MSgt Carl Stokes made Mar 12 at 2018 9:50 AM

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not even a little bit

Response by PO2 Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 12 at 2018 5:03 PM

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After 10 years of service combined between (Active & Reserve) 4 deployments, A wife & kids I'm not intimidated by anything lol. I am however open to all views when it comes to discussions. I believe you can learn something from everyone. We are Veterans, and/ or Active but we are people first. Long as we respect each other shouldn't be any problems but just my opinion.

Response by SSG Lemuel Genovese made Mar 23 at 2018 5:39 PM

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As a retired Army/Guard vet of both VN and Desert Storm, having trained young medics for the Balkans, Iraq & AFGN, my contact with flag offs has convinced me that rank, by itself is no measure of expertise, common sense and integrity.

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 24 at 2018 11:27 PM

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I think that both on RP and in Face to Face discussions there are individuals that tend to hide behind their rank. Once you have served long enough, we all remember "that guy/gal". SGT Hanner said it right. Speaking to anyone in a respectful, dignified tone leaves no room for the heavy chest argument. We all have our own personality and opinions. At times, they often clash. No big deal. There is no need to feel intimidated. The RP discussion forum has no place for the keyboard warrior either.

Response by COL Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 24 at 2018 11:38 PM

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I hope not. That defeats the purpose. But I will say, I’m about to lose my inside voice with some of the questions and comments like why the Army hates single Soldiers, why Infantrymen are ashamed to wear their CIB, and other crazy stuff.

Response by PO1 Barbara Matthews made Mar 25 at 2018 2:58 PM

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I'm not intimidated. Maybe once when I was a junior troop but now I'm old enough not to let it phase me. I guess being a veteran helps. It took me awhile to reach this status in life though. Now I can say pretty much what I want and let everyone else do the same.

Response by COL Ardis Ferguson made Mar 25 at 2018 7:52 PM

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I’m curious as to the genesis of the question. As professionals, intimidation stifles leadership and problem solving, so concur ‘we’ should not be intimidated nor should we try to intimidate. You should be respectful despite the rank. Opinions are just that, some more informed than others while some are driven by a passion to believe one’s point of view is more applicable than another’s. Mutual respect as professionals in an organization with a defined rank structure includes Soldiers with a wide range of backgrounds and education. It serves us well to be mission focused and not concern ourselves with a question that doesn’t need to be pondered by profeesionals, but instead focus on a more collegiate discussion about leadership and mission command

Response by SCPO Rev. Dr. Thomas Peavy made Mar 27 at 2018 10:21 AM

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Respect for ranks is customary and so accorded when earned. I need no affirmation from others because of my rank nor do I countenance condescension because of my Rank. This is a site for discussion and views may be at variance, so be it.

Response by PO3 Tyler Ruff made Mar 27 at 2018 7:42 PM

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It hasn't held me back, I treat this as aleaning environment.

Response by SFC Greg Bruorton made Mar 27 at 2018 11:27 PM

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Never have I been intimidated by higher-ranking military leaders, but always respectful of their achievements. In my view, there is beauty in the 1SG and the CSM stripes, the colonel's eagle, and the three stars of an LTG and I must admit that those wearing such insignia earned them. Now, if I were to get a royal butt-chewing by any of them my opinion might change.

Response by SFC Dennis A. made Mar 29 at 2018 9:18 AM

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I'm not intimidated by rank or position but I do try to be respectful to everyone no matter their rank or position.

Response by SGT Dave Tracy made Mar 30 at 2018 1:24 PM

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Now that I'm a fulltime civilian, I'm definitely not concerned with rank on RP! ;-)

Response by LCDR Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 30 at 2018 1:33 PM

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Nope. I'm a civilian now, though I appreciate and respect RP's use of last held rank. In that sense, a currently serving O-2 knows more about the issues he's dealing with now than I do. If my "experience" helps, so be it. There are former NCOs here who I would call "Sir" with all the sincerity in the world were we to meet in person. We have former officers and enlisted who are now professional peers. If anything, I give more deference to those whose age and experience far exceeds my own...regardless of what rank they last wore.

Response by PVT Mark Brown made Apr 1 at 2018 6:29 PM

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I respect those that have made their way to the senior NCO and senior Officer levels. I think >E-6 and >O-4 are important milestones in any military career.

Response by SCPO James Williams made Apr 1 at 2018 7:37 PM

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Old, fully retired, had 43 years in healthcare both giving and earning respect. Main task now is taking care of my 86+ year old mother with late stage Alzheimer's. Not intimidated anymore.

Response by SFC Carlos Cruz made Apr 1 at 2018 7:44 PM

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It is very important to learn from other regardless their rank. We are able to understand individual behavior based on their Ranks & experience with leadership therefore is good to see other input regardless their Ranks.

Response by SFC Jon Vandeyacht made Apr 4 at 2018 11:42 PM

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My rank only matters to prove I have experience and knowledge about what I talk about. I dont care about other peoples rank and it doesn't intimidate me as I spent TONS of time working with and briefing Senior Officers and NCO's. At the same time, if it is a PFC talking like he has tons of experience and and is a know it all, then I disregard them or call them out as it is BS. how can a person with <2 years be an expert at anything Army? My Daughter knows more than most E-5's as she helped me study military schools, prep for boards and was present at many of my unit stuff.

Response by MSgt James "Buck" Buchanan made Apr 5 at 2018 12:22 PM

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I found that my daily attitude affected whether or not those of higher rank tried to "pull it" and give me a hard time. From the time I was an E-4 thru to retirement I dealt with O-6 and above on a daily basis...being professional was always the trump card when dealing with any higher rank.

Response by PO2 Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 6 at 2018 3:08 AM

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If I was still on active duty , I would be respectful but my views would not change. As a veteran , what's rank? HOWEVER, if your still respectful towards other people it doesnt really matter.

Response by SGT Lee Oien made Apr 8 at 2018 7:24 PM

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Retired for 28 years now (medical, helicopter crash) so no.
My bothers and sisters that are on active, reserve, or guard duty need to be a bit more careful of professional behavior, OPSEC, etc. :)

Response by SPC David Willis made Apr 9 at 2018 5:12 PM

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Are higher ranks intimidating? No, no one is going to knife hand me through the screen. Do higher ranking people tend to know more? Yes, usually their knowledge base is greater than a privates.

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 13 at 2018 10:50 AM

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MAJ Robert (Bob) Petrarca always intimidated me ;-)
Overall no, though sometimes it does have weight when you are asking for career advise. Who do you generally listen to: the person who has 20 years in and did the same thing you are asking about or someone who is about to ship to basic? Other questions it is great to hear from all ranks to get a general picture of perception or new ideas.

Response by LTJG Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 15 at 2018 8:26 PM

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I would say that I am not intimidated by higher ranks; however, there are some who use their ranks as a point of leverage (negatively). Rank should be used to show experience and guidance.

Response by SFC Ralph E Kelley made Apr 15 at 2018 8:59 PM

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I considered the meaning of this topic, I am not active duty now (retired) but I was never 'intimidated'.
I have always believed that being respectful to any rank when I spoke my piece. Candor is best.

Response by SPC Tom DeSmet made Apr 16 at 2018 6:30 PM

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Even though I was in the Army more than 7 years, I learned a big lesson in PLDC. I always felt I was above average in what I did, but as for being a soldier I was shown just how little I knew about being a soldier by the 11B's in my class. It changed my outlook in a big way including how I saw officers and NCO's in a new light. I am not intimidated by higher ranking people, but I still have a healthy amount of respect as I did back then. I did watch my tone and try not to waste anyone's time and still feel that way. Most of the time higher ranking people had more life experience and I often learned from them by listening. As a veteran I still feel rank has it's place.

Response by SPC James Gromley made Apr 18 at 2018 6:10 PM

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I am not intimidated of higher ranks for one simple reason. I was a cook, one of the 2 types of people you never wanted to piss off. The other is anyone in the medical area, and even they did not piss off their cooks.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 18 at 2018 8:07 PM

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I think Rallypoint is a perfect example of how we can interact without the formalities of the uniform. I enjoy getting perspective from lower enlisted Soldiers in topics such as this one. I think we as service members sometimes get blinded by our service and forget that beyond the uniform we are all people from different walks of life, education levels etc. Rallypoint helps clearly illustrate that little fact.

Response by SSG Craig Collins made Apr 21 at 2018 8:49 PM

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No rank never mattered to me in or out of this forum. If you have more rank and experience than me in a subject, you can probably teach me something I didn’t know or give me a better way to apply it. If you have less rank and experience than me in a subject, you can give me a new and different way of looking at it and apply it for use. We are supposed to be professional professionals....but some wear their rank like they breathe. It’s supposed to be a discussion, but some people make you not only question their rank but also ask “How old are you again?” because I can’t tell.

Response by LCpl Steve Smith made Apr 23 at 2018 2:04 AM

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Not at all but I do give proper respect to their rank. If the Person's an Ass I will treat them as such regardless of rank. I do however recommend for active duty personnel to remember they are active duty and other higher ranking active duty personnel are in here too and they don't want to step on their own Crank. (you know some smart ass kid just starts going off on an active duty higher rank) Doesn't mean they aren't safe to ask or answer a question, just means they have to keep their bearing.

Response by Sgt Steve Hesse made Apr 27 at 2018 6:25 PM

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I always respected rank, but it never intimidated me.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 28 at 2018 11:00 PM

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Rank doesn't intimidate me in the slightest, it gives context behind people's comments and responses. I have only run into one person who hid behind their rank on RP.

Response by 1SG Clifford Barnes made Apr 30 at 2018 8:53 PM

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No and didn’t allow it to on the service

Response by MSgt Dale Johnson made May 3 at 2018 12:00 PM

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I do think that it influences the amount of weight I give to a response. For instance someone responding as an E-1 would normally not influence me on a Leadership discussion as much as say an E6/and up or an O-4/and up. By their rank they, under normal circumstances, would not have the experience that the higher ranks would have. However, on human issues I don't think there would be as much bias to a lower ranking member, they often have significant input to discussions.

I was not intimidated by anyone of a higher rank as an active duty member, and I am not now in civilian life workplace. I have a few funny anecdotes about dealing with higher ranked personnel that would not add to this discussion so will save those for some time over a beer. One note though, I was hand picked for an assignment to my Command Headquarters but I turned it down. I know that it pissed the Chief off that picked me, that probably is the reason I retired as an E-7 instead of E-8 or 9.

Response by CPT Don Kemp made May 3 at 2018 1:06 PM

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From the comments I read, most of us are not intimidated by higher ranks now or then. My Battalion Commander said I looked like I was putting on weight. I said I'll still run your dick in the dirt......right before I got out.

Response by SFC Michael Peterson made May 4 at 2018 5:33 PM

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There was a long thread a while back. An Officer was trying to make a case to pretty much abolish the Second Amendment. I tried to be respectful, at first, while I explained why he couldn't be more wrong. Then, he commented that he really didn't care what anyone thought, he and his little group of retired Officer buddies were trying to use their political connections towards that end anyway. The gloves came off after that. I don't care who you are. If you swore an oath to "support and defend the Constitution of the United States, against ALL enemies, foreign and DOMESTIC" and then, become an enemy of that Constitution, no more respect will be given. At least 99% of those who commented, disagreed with him. I honestly consider him a traitor and, I can't understand how he attained the rank he had.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made May 4 at 2018 6:15 PM

2018-05-04T18:15:54-04:00

I actually enjoy seeing higher ranks participate. Mentorship is needed and should be highly encouraged. We need more of it.

Response by Sgt Robert Gardner made May 5 at 2018 1:46 PM

2018-05-05T13:46:34-04:00

Since I am no longer an active service member there is absolutely no reason for me to be intimidated.

Response by Sgt Robert Gardner made May 5 at 2018 1:47 PM

2018-05-05T13:47:44-04:00

Since I am no longer an active service member there is absolutely no reason for me to be intimidated .

Response by Pvt Antonio Reyes made May 6 at 2018 1:51 AM

2018-05-06T01:51:09-04:00

Yes and no depends on the way they approach the question

Response by SPC Jamee Smyth made May 11 at 2018 11:57 PM

2018-05-11T23:57:33-04:00

I've been out 20 years. Whats some chuckle head higher rank going to do to me.? Yell at me like i am walking off the bus for BCT? Even the D.I didn't intimidate me. I just did what i was told like i was taught. Cause once you grow up with a father that was a Marine D.I in the 60's and 70's You can put up with at Army D.I with out an issue.

Response by PO1 Kayla Orange made May 13 at 2018 6:50 AM

2018-05-13T06:50:14-04:00

This all depends on someone’s version of “right.”

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made May 13 at 2018 10:26 AM

2018-05-13T10:26:20-04:00

No and those of lower rank should not be also.

Response by SFC Stephen King made May 13 at 2018 6:36 PM

2018-05-13T18:36:00-04:00

No, tact is key regardless of rank.

Response by SGT Louise Hawthorne made May 15 at 2018 11:26 PM

2018-05-15T23:26:52-04:00

After serving in combat, my answer is no. We all bleed the same, fear the same, and (hopefully) fight the same. Many times i had to 'recommend or show ' an officer what to do. Conversely, I've also been instructed when necessary. As a result i feel the field is level, just as long one remembers that a certain amount of respect is still due.

Response by SPC Brian Mason made May 18 at 2018 12:34 AM

2018-05-18T00:34:21-04:00

I am a Veteran and fulfilled my contract. To some degree I give other veterans respect but I'm not going to turn back into BCT recruit for every one who outranks me.

Response by PO1 Jeffrey Pennala made May 18 at 2018 11:54 AM

2018-05-18T11:54:09-04:00

Respect is something almost everybody on the forum deserves, after the service many times the tables are turned. In my life after the Navy I have had subordinates who were officers and senior enlisted working for me. We all held in common our service which gave us a common bond, but we realized that the "positional authority" or chain of command we were operating under had changed.

Response by LCDR Private RallyPoint Member made May 18 at 2018 1:19 PM

2018-05-18T13:19:22-04:00

No, not at all. However I do hold particular respect those who held higher ranks (as well as respecting all who served honorably).

Response by GySgt Moses Lozano made May 20 at 2018 1:49 PM

2018-05-20T13:49:50-04:00

Hell no!

Response by SFC Harry (Billy) Tison made May 22 at 2018 6:51 PM

2018-05-22T18:51:17-04:00

I messed up on the voting. I do not let anyone intimate me, because you cannot show people who you really are if you bow down to them. Does that mean disrespect someone of higher rank or position? No. But my grandfather, who retired as a CW4, taught me to respect those in authority, until they start running over you

Response by SSG Brian Carpenter made Jun 7 at 2018 7:20 AM

2018-06-07T07:20:07-04:00

I'm retired so go ahead try to pull rank...bwahahaha Seriously though if you are doing what is right you should never feel intimidated by rank when giving your opinion. I can pretty much bet you that some of our greatest military leaders gave their opinion or questioned a higher rank more than once in their career. Soldiers are not brainwashed do as I say without question that civilians think we are. Yes the oath of enlisksays obey all orders, but it does not say you cannot adapt those orders into what you really need at the time. It is better to ask forgiveness...

Response by MAJ James Woods made Jun 8 at 2018 4:35 PM

2018-06-08T16:35:50-04:00

Nope and I would hope no one is intimidated by my rank. Active, retired, reserve; doesn't matter. What matters is respect among peers and professionals.

Response by PO3 Michael James made Jun 12 at 2018 7:50 PM

2018-06-12T19:50:45-04:00

regardless of how high ranking an individual is, I have always been treated equally, and shown respect from other RP members.. Thank you...

Response by CW3 Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 14 at 2018 1:41 PM

2018-06-14T13:41:14-04:00

I'd say that on the whole this is the most professional forum on a "social media-type" platform, and I think the visible ranks has a lot to do with that. Take that away and I guarantee you conversations will get more sporty.

Response by Maj John Bell made Jun 15 at 2018 9:01 PM

2018-06-15T21:01:13-04:00

There is not one single fitrep in my ORB that doesn't have some comment to the effect that I don't pull punches for anyone, even when my reporting senior wished I would have.

Response by SCPO Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 16 at 2018 11:41 AM

2018-06-16T11:41:54-04:00

Yes. No.

Response by SSgt Max Gonzales made Jun 18 at 2018 1:00 AM

2018-06-18T01:00:14-04:00

I found that respect is earned,and I learned that outside the military,rank is a very important,in certain arenas.

Response by SSG Stephan Pendarvis made Jun 21 at 2018 6:50 PM

2018-06-21T18:50:04-04:00

I respect the higher rank...but not intimidated. I would never want a pvt to be intimidated my me in return (when I was in uniform).

Response by TSgt Bruce Davis made Jun 25 at 2018 7:14 PM

2018-06-25T19:14:27-04:00

al i have to say is...HA! i wasn't intimidated when i was active duty (after Marine Corps Boot Camp of course) and i certainly am not intimidated now. if you learn tact...you can master the art of working and dealing with ANY rank, officers, enlisted, supervisors, and subordinates.

Response by SMSgt Steve Neal made Jun 27 at 2018 4:19 PM

2018-06-27T16:19:48-04:00

Not an issue, my wife has always outranked me... Point: We all put our pants on one leg at a time. No vet or retiree is special enough to assume or demand respect that is not earned by continued service...

Response by LTC Thomas Tennant made Jun 28 at 2018 9:13 AM

2018-06-28T09:13:07-04:00

Funny...rank should never intimidate by someone of higher rank. The rule on forum is that you respect everyone and you keep the discussion focused and issue driven.

Response by SPC Sheila Lewis made Jun 28 at 2018 9:31 AM

2018-06-28T09:31:27-04:00

I say my piece and I keep on steppin'.

Response by PFC Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 30 at 2018 1:40 PM

2018-06-30T13:40:54-04:00

I'm not intimidated persay, but I'm less likely to chime in. Who wants to hear the opinion of a pfc?

Response by SGT Kyle Bickley made Jul 10 at 2018 7:24 PM

2018-07-10T19:24:22-04:00

Seriously? Wasn't intimidated when I was in. I respected it and wanted to learn from the Vietnam Vets. They made me a better soldier. Years later what they taught me saved my life!

Response by MSG John Duchesneau made Jul 11 at 2018 12:35 AM

2018-07-11T00:35:51-04:00

No. If I think and officer is jacked up - I will tell him. BTW - I'm retired.

Response by SSgt Holden M. made Jul 16 at 2018 2:32 PM

2018-07-16T14:32:26-04:00

I'm not intimidated by higher rank. If I was still active duty and it was an active duty officer maybe a little bit but since I'm out rank doesn't matter. But being admin when I was in and my last duty station was a head quarters I worked in my one stars front office a bit and also talked to the four star a couple times and learned that they are just like everybody else. They just have more weight upon their shoulders.

Response by CPT Michael Morotti made Jul 20 at 2018 5:16 PM

2018-07-20T17:16:13-04:00

I used to argue with senior officers when I was in uniform on occasion. I'm not intimidated by anyone, quite frankly.

Response by PFC Francis Ramseyer made Jul 27 at 2018 7:18 AM

2018-07-27T07:18:12-04:00

In civilian life I was CEO of a middle size company. My job was interesting and I was making more money than a five stars general, so what ? Life is good, we have the choice !

Response by PO3 David Gronbach made Aug 5 at 2018 1:42 PM

2018-08-05T13:42:48-04:00

I'm not intimidated. I think this was part of my problem in the military.

Response by SGT Kurt Lembcke made Aug 6 at 2018 9:55 PM

2018-08-06T21:55:57-04:00

I have never been intimidated by rank, even on active duty. They are no different than anyone else.
Stood for one on one inspection by General of the Army Omar Bradley at Fort Carson in 1976. He came for the national bicentennial & state centennial July 4, 1976. Day to remember.

Response by SSgt Gary Andrews made Aug 8 at 2018 3:59 PM

2018-08-08T15:59:31-04:00

Everyone has equal standing on this site, regardless of what rank you held, which branch you served in, and what gender you are. We all have something to offer, and we can all learn something from each other. Just as we had different experiences while serving, we have had different experiences after leaving active duty as well. It's the variety of opinions and perspectives that attracted me to this group, and that's what keeps me active here.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 8 at 2018 6:08 PM

2018-08-08T18:08:02-04:00

Have never been intimidated by rank after meeting both General Omar Bradley and General Alexander Haigue and having to report to General George Paton III weekly while he was deputy commander of 7 Corps in the 70's

Response by SSG Joseph Fleuette made Aug 9 at 2018 5:57 PM

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Response by Capt Al Parker made Aug 10 at 2018 2:59 PM

2018-08-10T14:59:48-04:00

No, They put their pants on the same way I did. But THEY DO DESERVE RESPECT

Response by 1SG Charles Simpson made Aug 19 at 2018 8:24 AM

2018-08-19T08:24:17-04:00

I am not intimidated by anything, anywhere.

Response by PO1 James Friedman made Aug 22 at 2018 4:23 PM

2018-08-22T16:23:12-04:00

Rank never did. Even when I was on active duty.

Response by CW2 Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 26 at 2018 1:00 PM

2018-08-26T13:00:47-04:00

I actually don’t look at ranks when reading the comments. I read the comments first and then look at the rank/person who wrote it. I like the comment depending on the content and intelligence demonstrated in the response. It should be about the content regardless of the rank. At least that’s my opinion. And even if I don’t agree with the comment, I don’t denigrate or respond according to rank. I will respectfully voice my opinion or disagreement in a respectful manner regardless of the rank of the person whom I’m directing my response towards.

Response by SFC William Huse made Aug 26 at 2018 5:20 PM

2018-08-26T17:20:06-04:00

I have always respected higher ranks regardless of my personal opinion of them, but there is absolutely no reason for any soldier to be intimidated by anyone.

Response by SGT Mark Rhodes made Sep 1 at 2018 10:33 AM

2018-09-01T10:33:37-04:00

Most of us are retired or veterans in general. I was never intimidated by rank but I sure as hell respected it. Now I continue to do the same on RallyPoint especially if someone shows what there rank is/was. Respecting others regardless of rank is what we all need to do anyway. But if I’m knowingly having a conversation with with a officer they will get my respect always even when we agree to disagree. Just my two cents on this subject.

Response by PO3 John Priest made Sep 5 at 2018 12:49 PM

2018-09-05T12:49:42-04:00

I am not necessarily intimidated by higher ranks, but I am most certainly respectful of them and what they can do in matters and opinions. And in veteran matters I'm going to listen to the voices of experience and respect the source also.

Response by PO1 Michael Garrett made Sep 7 at 2018 2:35 PM

2018-09-07T14:35:36-04:00

Rank really doesn't have anything to do with a good and honest debate. If you're able to make it honest and logical case for your point of view, that I will understand what you're trying to say. I may still disagree with it but I can see some validity of your arguments.

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 9 at 2018 9:58 PM

2018-09-09T21:58:44-04:00

I try to show deference to someone who was or is in the military and had a higher rank unless they post defamatory statements or something that would seem inappropriate for their rank.

Response by SMSgt Lawrence McCarter made Sep 9 at 2018 10:33 PM

2018-09-09T22:33:08-04:00

I wasn't intimidated by rank when i was in uniform, We were on the same team. That doesn't mean I didn't respect the station of those senior to Me but as I rose in rank I also dealt directly with Senior Officers, Generals and Colonels. I both gave and received respect and found when i was asked for information or advise it because they were interested in the actual answer and usually followed any advise from My input. I never had contact with any General officers I didn't get along with. I always respected the rank, that had to be but I found if I had a negative view of the individual so did those above them in the chain of command and that didn't need My input, the senior Officers based that on their own opinions a oversight of factual information and those people usually were relieved of command had their careers ended. They were a fairly small group in numbers anyway.

On RP, I also don't feel intimidated either but I do find those of higher rank here very often share My opinions. I think in both their cases and mine it based largely on our Military and life experience. I do have a good number of people here whose opinions I respect, some had outranked Me, some didn't. Respect given also earns respect.

Response by SFC Michael Peterson made Sep 17 at 2018 12:47 AM

2018-09-17T00:47:21-04:00

Rank gives you an insight on where the other person is coming from but no, I don't get intimidated. I have agreed with Colonels and, I have disagreed with them too. I am definitely not intimidated by anyone though. If someone "supports and defends the Constitution of the United States" and military regulations, I fully agree. If they don't, I disagree no matter what rank they have. There was a LTC, not too long ago, that was all about doing away with the Second Amendment and many of us lit him up. I told him plainly that he was betraying his oath and, he was one of the "domestic enemies" he swore to protect the Constitution from. I don't mince words and, I don't sugar coat anything. No one can take away my birthday and, no one can stamp "no dessert" on my meal card. I'm retired and I answer to no one... except "Household 6".

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 20 at 2018 1:19 AM

2018-09-20T01:19:25-04:00

I've been fortunate enough to see most, if not all, people of rank senior to mine agree and disagree with each other professionally. There's really no reason to feel intimidated. If someone of higher rank is acting in a way attempting to intimidate, they're not ACTING of higher rank, in my opinion.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 22 at 2018 8:17 PM

2018-09-22T20:17:37-04:00

I am not intimidated by other ranks. But I could certainly see how people reading my posts may look at my lowly E-5 rank from long ago, roll their eyes and wonder, "Where the ____ is this coming from?"

Now, in person, at a defense industry firm, my mileage has varied. I have had interesting, productive debates with retired officers, and I have met the exception who does not appear to have much experience with anyone disagreeing. However, I suspect that when dealing with the exception, it wouldn't matter what rank you are - they just don't like being disagreed with.

Response by Sgt Mike Sarris made Sep 23 at 2018 4:18 PM

2018-09-23T16:18:01-04:00

No, I respect those on here equally no matter the rank...until you show you are not worthy of the respect your rank affords you. At that point, you're fair game no matter what rank you held. We're almost all civilians here, and the respect you give to others is the respect you get back.

Response by Lt Col Charlie Brown made Sep 23 at 2018 4:51 PM

2018-09-23T16:51:25-04:00

Just be courteous and that will go a long way

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 25 at 2018 2:46 PM

2018-09-25T14:46:29-04:00

I am about the lowest rank you could be and I am not intimidated from the higher ranks. I see it more as, if you are respectful and courteous to others, then I see no reason to be intimidated. We are all on this website for something military related, weather it is information or connection with other soldiers.

Response by CMSgt Steve Pennington made Sep 30 at 2018 10:47 PM

2018-09-30T22:47:58-04:00

Not at all intimidated. My dad was enlisted initiall and was later commissioned so I grew up around people of all ranks, E1 to very senior officers. In my own career I went through all of the ranks to E9. With my levels of responsibility rising with my promotions, I learned that the people responsible to you needed your support and leadership and you needed the support and leadership of those above you. Unlike careers outside the military, there is very little ambiguity about your position in the organization. I feel very comfortable with everyone in the Rally Point team.

Response by PO1 Robert Adams made Oct 1 at 2018 2:25 PM

2018-10-01T14:25:33-04:00

When I was younger I might have been intimidated by rank. At this time in life I have finally understood that no man is better than I am. I do not claim to be any better than another however no man is better than I. With that in mind I will not be intimidated.

Response by SGT Philip Klein made Oct 6 at 2018 8:34 AM

2018-10-06T08:34:03-04:00

Never

Response by TSgt Tim (lj) Littlejohn made Oct 8 at 2018 2:08 PM

2018-10-08T14:08:25-04:00

Not now, not when active. National security, safety, Tech data. Have to use a lot of sirs sometimes. Smart, well informed are who I listened to!

Response by PFC Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 8 at 2018 2:24 PM

2018-10-08T14:24:43-04:00

Higher ranking personnel on RP give some great advice and a different viewpoint that i hadn't thought about before so no, real life is a little different. Only because some NCOs tend to look down on Privates like me, i understand though the have been in for a long time and they earned their rank so until i get SGT or higher its gonna be Yes, Sergeant and No, Sergeant

Response by SGT Rich Levesque made Oct 9 at 2018 9:32 AM

2018-10-09T09:32:12-04:00

I always respect an individual's rank. Always. They worked for it and it should be respected. As Maj Winters said in Band of Brothers "We salute the rank, not the man". Pretty much sums it up.

Response by SFC Robert Walton made Oct 9 at 2018 9:39 AM

2018-10-09T09:39:56-04:00

I have always and will always show respect for all ranks. RP is a opinion and assistance group, Should be no reason to disrespect one another.

Response by SGT Leon Riege made Oct 9 at 2018 7:18 PM

2018-10-09T19:18:34-04:00

i'm a civilian now , all ranks have to call me sir

Response by SFC Melker Johansson made Oct 14 at 2018 7:59 PM

2018-10-14T19:59:58-04:00

I was so exposed to higher ranks when I was in the military that you wont impress me unless you have at least three stars.

Response by CW3 Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 17 at 2018 7:18 PM

2018-10-17T19:18:11-04:00

I dont think you should be intimidated but at least respect their experience

Response by SPC Samantha Stapley made Oct 17 at 2018 7:30 PM

2018-10-17T19:30:48-04:00

I am not intimidated. Although, I gave been out for 12 years and work in the legal field.

Response by SSG Rob Gaiser made Oct 18 at 2018 8:16 PM

2018-10-18T20:16:59-04:00

I’ve worked with the upper ranks, they all put their pants on just like the rest of us.. stars and bars are no different than stripes. Many were NCO’s before they got the brass.

Response by SGT Michael Boston made Oct 29 at 2018 10:30 AM

2018-10-29T10:30:40-04:00

In a discussion board such as RP, Rank plays no role. If the rank card starts to be a factor then this blog becomes pointless. I view this blog like Ranger School. No Rank is worn. Doesn't matter if you're a flag officer or a private. Everybodies respectful and knowledgable opinion carries equal weight.

Response by CPO David Sharp made Nov 1 at 2018 6:09 PM

2018-11-01T18:09:47-04:00

This is a web site for discussion and input. Rank should be respected but not an aspect of intelligent discussion.

Response by PVT Mark Zehner made Nov 5 at 2018 12:37 PM

2018-11-05T12:37:07-05:00

No bother here! I was a police officer afterwards and I don't refer to myself as officer either all good here!

Response by SMSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 8 at 2018 10:18 AM

2018-11-08T10:18:08-05:00

I grew out of being 'intimidated' by higher ranks well before the end of my first enlistment. After that I respected the 'rank' and gave respect to those who deserved it. The one's I didn't respect never knew it.... There were exceptions of course....

Response by SP5 Dennis Loberger made Nov 11 at 2018 10:52 PM

2018-11-11T22:52:52-05:00

My highest rank in the US Army was SP5. Once out of AIT I only had one Sr NCO give me a hard time and one officer pull rank on me while I was in the service. Now that I am a civilian, I have no rank, nor do any of the other former military. I am totally comfortable in who I am and therefore totally comfortable with all. I have several friends who were Colonels or Commanders. Their former rank has no effect on our friendship. My civilian friends can't tell the difference between this lowly E5 and an O6. I say what I believe to be true with impunity, always aware that I see the world not as it is but as I am. The same applies to them. I am always cognizant of the fact that they may have greater expertise in some areas than I and defer to them if that's the case. Believe it or not, they also recognize where I may have greater experience. I treat all with respect, regardless of rank and expect the same. Every officer or Sr NCO is actually a real person with strengths and weaknesses, tough times and good times and, so far, all have a sense of humor. Wherever we stand, at home, in the street, at work or at the post we stand on the same ground at the same level.

Response by GySgt Kenneth Pepper made Nov 14 at 2018 10:30 AM

2018-11-14T10:30:42-05:00

Not at all, but I do believe that we should all be respectful of each other. To assume someone's opinion is more or less valid based solely on the rank they attained (or currently hold) is shallow. I would be willing to bet that there are numerous former PFCs out there that now are CEOs, Professors, Doctors, etc.,

Response by SGT Ben Keen made Nov 15 at 2018 2:47 PM

2018-11-15T14:47:40-05:00

For those of you that are fairly new to RP, I can tell you a great story when it comes to Rank and discussions here on RallyPoint.

Early one, when RallyPoint first went public a Private asked a question. Shortly after, a 4-Star answered him and the two had a great back and forth. LTC Yinon Weiss used it several times as an example of the power of the website early on.

So no, you should not be intimidated by higher ranks. Now what I will say is you must still be respectful, regardless if it's to a GO or to someone that you might outrank. RallyPoint is a professional network and you need to act accordingly. If not, you may find yourself getting messages from me, SSG(P) James J. Palmer IV aka "JP4", LTC Kevin B., SGM Erik Marquez or SSG Carlos Madden which is something we, as admins don't really enjoy doing.

Response by SFC William Farrell made Nov 20 at 2018 12:59 AM

2018-11-20T00:59:53-05:00

Not at all SSG Ronald Williams. I believe in treating people with respect regardless of rank. Treat people as you want to be treated. We are only here on this earth a short time, enjoy it.

Response by SCPO William Akin made Nov 26 at 2018 8:05 AM

2018-11-26T08:05:10-05:00

I'm 70+ years old, and have been retired from the military for well over 30 years..
I don't care Who, or What you are you get the respect you show..
Intimidated? Surely you jest..

Response by SGT Hubert Burchartz made Dec 15 at 2018 10:51 AM

2018-12-15T10:51:33-05:00

Everyone is entitled to their opinion. Just because your an officer, does not always mean your right. I’ve had to correct a few in my time in.

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 15 at 2018 6:59 PM

2018-12-15T18:59:40-05:00

Being just a Private, I’m sometimes intimidated by rank on RallyPoint. I’m not sure why, but seeing an officer or higher ranking enlisted comment on my questions make me ask myself if I have to address them the same as I would in person.

However, that may just be me acting like a private.

Response by MSG David Lambert made Dec 16 at 2018 10:25 PM

2018-12-16T22:25:34-05:00

Why be intimidated? We all have our roles to fill.

Response by CPO David Marshall made Jan 15 at 2019 5:35 PM

2019-01-15T17:35:32-05:00

Uhhhh...no

Response by SGT Randall Spence made Feb 15 at 2019 12:08 AM

2019-02-15T00:08:16-05:00

To clarify, I ETSed in 1979, completed my service in 1981. So from that perspective, NO, they don't intimate me. When I took Uncles Sam's dollar, I stood tall and shook in my boots!

Response by SFC Melvin Brandenburg made Jul 5 at 2019 4:26 PM

2019-07-05T16:26:30-04:00

No, I'm just respectful but I basically have no filter. I believe the ugly truth is more desirable.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 1 at 2019 9:48 PM

2019-09-01T21:48:51-04:00

No but I don't try to push the envelope and always keep in mind a a persons rank when addressing them on here. However, If someone is flexing rank in a civil discussion then they don't belong in a professional group like this.

Response by SPC Jae Taylor made Sep 1 at 2019 10:39 PM

2019-09-01T22:39:11-04:00

Though "intimidated" is a fairly strong word that indicates some form of fear, I did vote that I am "intimidated" by ranks higher than me. This is not to denote fear. It's more because I'm new here and I don't know how things work in this realm. I would like to respect those I meet and I am not accustomed to hanging out with certain ranks. I simply don't know what to discuss and what approach is best.

However, I have felt welcomed here. I have not run into any problems yet. I have been learning.

Response by PFC Darrell Howard made Mar 6 at 2020 2:15 PM

2020-03-06T14:15:41-05:00

We are all men and women at end of day, why should we be intimidated by people like us?

Response by SGT Richard Gocio made Mar 9 at 2020 5:15 PM

2020-03-09T17:15:39-04:00

Being an "Old Man", with no direct ties to the active duty millitary, I do not feel any peer presssure or superiority/inferiority based on someones rank. I repsect all active duty, reserve, retired and veteran service members greatly and equally. Being well "trained", I still include the honorific "Sir" if I know someone to be a Warrant or Commissioned Officer. Side point, I was the same on active duty. My jobs required that I conduct staff breifings, construction inspections, saftey inspections, & security reviews. I never held my tounge because of someones rank or position. If it was good, I said so. If it needed work, dito. If it was F*@$*# ^! and needed thrown out, You would hear it from me, respectfully of course. (LoL. this did get me thrown off of a site by a LT, until my MAJ found out, at which point the LT flew half way across Germany to explain to the COL why I wasn't able to breif the COL on why the project was delayed.)

Response by CPL Patrick Holbrook made Jun 5 at 2020 2:19 AM

2020-06-05T02:19:23-04:00

Not really, was injured overseas and retired rank really doesn’t matter anymore. However, I am respectful of others because it’s the right thing to do. Times while on base I will state a soldiers rank to get their attention or talk to them, but I am not sweating bullets at the sight of stars. You feel me?

Response by MAJ Ken Landgren made Jun 5 at 2020 1:38 PM

2020-06-05T13:38:05-04:00

There was a 1SG and E-7 who essentially said I was a loser for retiring as a MAJ. It just shows me of the caliber of people they are. I don't care about rank. What I do care about is good conversations and respect.

Response by SGT Herbert Bollum made Jun 5 at 2020 3:09 PM

2020-06-05T15:09:56-04:00

Not intimidated only respectful. Plus I expect the same back.

Response by SMSgt Lawrence McCarter made Jun 5 at 2020 5:50 PM

2020-06-05T17:50:26-04:00

No, I'm not bothered in the least by higher rank, I've always found a mutual respect with the majority and worked together with a number General Officers. We all served in the US Armed Forces and made our contributions to the service and our country. I my have been an enlisted Senior NCO but My close friends also includes Senior Officers as well a people of lower grade level. If You served in the US Armed Forces ALL of You have My respect for that service. Our opinions don't have to agree on everything although I find the majority of us are on the same page for the most part.

Response by MAJ Dale E. Wilson, Ph.D. made Jun 6 at 2020 3:56 AM

2020-06-06T03:56:12-04:00

I learned a long time ago not to stand on formality because whenever I did, I usually slipped and fell on my ass. I also spent 9 years, two months enlisted before being commissioned from OCS. . . .

Response by PO3 John Priest made Jun 6 at 2020 8:04 PM

2020-06-06T20:04:08-04:00

I always respect rank, even when I don't agree with the person who has it. In terms of veteran status, I listen, the experience someone may have, even years and years ago, may very well be of relevance.

Response by Sgt Steven Smith made Jun 7 at 2020 7:19 AM

2020-06-07T07:19:26-04:00

You never have to be afraid of a higher rank if you hold discipline and tact in your statements and questions.

Response by SFC Harry (Billy) Tison made Jun 8 at 2020 10:23 AM

2020-06-08T10:23:26-04:00

Higher ranks never intimated me while I was in, so why would it bother me now? I've always respected those who were higher rank than me, but I was never intimated by them, no matter how hard they tried

Response by CMSgt James Nolan made Jul 5 at 2020 11:43 PM

2020-07-05T23:43:02-04:00

Here is what I would add for flavor in terms of rank. Much like in life (when talking with an elder).
He/she may know a thing or two-because they’ve seen a thing or two.

Response by SGM Gerald Fife made Jul 14 at 2020 11:07 AM

2020-07-14T11:07:17-04:00

We are here to give each of us a hand up. Unless you quote a Regulation, it is all opinion or story telling. When people give opinions there is going to a little difference of that opinion. Especially since we are from all the branches of Service. As the French say. "viva le difference!"

Response by Cpl Geoff Smith made Jul 26 at 2020 3:47 PM

2020-07-26T15:47:23-04:00

Oh, hell NO

Response by SSG Thomas Barry made Jul 27 at 2020 7:08 PM

2020-07-27T19:08:16-04:00

Really?? what are they gonna do , give you a dirty look as they read your post?? or maybe write you a nasty reply back, to which you can stick your tongue out at. lol

Response by Lt Col John (Jack) Christensen made Aug 10 at 2020 8:29 PM

2020-08-10T20:29:55-04:00

Not by any stretch of the imagination. Rank is something that becomes meaningless once you retire or get out. I'm reminded of the old phrase rank among Lieutenants. Basic courtesy is all that's needed.

Response by PO2 Jo Wi made Jul 27 at 2021 5:53 PM

2021-07-27T17:53:26-04:00

No: neither while in service and especially now that I’m out. When I was in service I saw their rank as symbolical (as in, I was respecting their insignia and not the actual person because he/she was still another person no different than me). I mean, I was still courteous with all; I just didn’t feel different about a peer vs a superior.

I knew peers smarter than superiors, especially since we all know a lot of promotions were more about favoritism rather than actual merit or skill. I’d just “code switched” my speech with peers vs superiors; that worked wonders.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 15 at 2022 1:00 AM

2022-09-15T01:00:45-04:00

None whatsoever...