Does SMP time count towards Active Duty time for the purpose of receiving O1E pay?

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 18 Nov 2020 08:12:16 -0500

My years of service are accounted for, so I was receiving the maximum pay for O1 and O2. I enlisted in 2010 into the National Guard and became SMP in 2015. I commissioned in 2018. I have already completed my 1506, and I almost 3 years and 3 months of time with that. If that counts towards active time, accounting for Drill Dates, Annual Trainings, Initial Entry Training, and State Emergency Activations, I should have enough time to reach the 4 year plus 1 day mark.

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 18 at 2020 8:15 AM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 18 Nov 2020 08:15:18 -0500

As a quick edit, the reason this prompted this interest is that looking into DOD7000.14-R, I read that SMP time does count for creditable service, though it didn't say if it was active duty or not. Further reading in Chapter one,

"B. Service Not Counted. In computing active service, do not count:

1. Active service in a dual status (temporary officer/permanent enlisted)
in the Navy or Marine Corps;

2. Service as a National Guard technician; or

3. Except for periods of active duty service performed while a USUHS DOM
student, time served as a DOM student at USUHS. See subparagraph 010202.A.8
and applicable notes to Tables 1-7, 1-8 and the Basic Pay tables on
DFAS.MIL."

Any guidance would be appreciated.

Response by CPT Lawrence Cable made Nov 18 at 2020 10:05 AM

CPT Lawrence Cable — Wed, 18 Nov 2020 10:05:42 -0500

If you are asking what counts toward retirement time, it is only Active Duty days, which would include IET, AT's and full time schools and any duty on Title 32/Title 10 orders. You do not get credit for Drill days or state active duty that isn't Title 32. So if you got activated to fight forest fires, that won't count as active duty days for regular retirement.
To confuse you even more, your National Guard Retirement Points do count for Retirement Pay. You get one days credit for every point. So you divide your points by 365 and that is the additional years you will get credit for towards retirement pay.
I don't know how well the Guard personnel systems and the Army's match anymore, in my day, not at all. I would make sure that my NGB22 (the Guard DD214) and my NGB23 Retirement Point Accounting are in my personnel records. If you aren't keeping copies of your orders and paperwork, you need to start.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 18 at 2020 10:25 AM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 18 Nov 2020 10:25:56 -0500

No it does not, only time served on active duty for ATs or activations, deployments or ADOS count towards O1E

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 18 at 2020 12:53 PM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 18 Nov 2020 12:53:35 -0500

1,460 points have to have been earned while under Title 10 orders.

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 18 at 2020 1:03 PM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 18 Nov 2020 13:03:30 -0500

I know, it sucks, but you are really not losing that much money if you are only serving in drilling status. You will already top out the pay grade as is, and as long as you promote on time you wont fall far behind $$$. The "E" benefit sort of goes away at CPT.