Does the "deploy or get out" implementations regarding permanent profiles with a PULHES code of 112111 mean separation for those soldiers?

2018-08-08T15:01:24-04:00

It’s my understanding that a pulhes code listed with only one 2 is still deployable however will soldiers who fall under permanent profiles but remain deployable still be looked at for separation?

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 8 at 2018 3:25 PM

2018-08-08T15:25:43-04:00

If you have a 3 or higher on your PULHES you should be recommended for Medboard - and you are nondeployable with those codes. A 2 means you are still deployable. So as long as you are not non-deployable for 12 consecutive months you are fine.

So no people with a P2 are not going to be separated.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 8 at 2018 3:32 PM

2018-08-08T15:32:30-04:00

I think you just answered your own question - still deployable.
The way the process works is that you receive a permanent profile with a 3 PULHES. If you are still capable of deploying you will he retained and either medically reclassed or retained in your MOS. If you are incapable of deploying you will be med boarded.
It's not a new program and it follows the previous policies. It's just that now there is more emphasis for commanders to follow through with med boards of Soldiers instead of leaving a soldier to string together temporary profiles for a year or longer.

Response by SGM Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 8 at 2018 3:41 PM

2018-08-08T15:41:04-04:00

The function of is Soldier is to be able to deploy at moments notice. If a profile such as P2 precludes a Soldier from deployment or to do his/her job effectively, the Commander could request that the Soldier be reclassify into a different MOS that will allow the Soldier to deploy or in some cases request separation of the Soldier due to readiness.

Response by CSM Darieus ZaGara made Aug 8 at 2018 4:47 PM

2018-08-08T16:47:38-04:00

If a Soldier is fully deplorable in their current MOS they will not be separated medically. That is not to say that they couldn’t be separated for some other reason. Thank you for your service.

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 8 at 2018 7:32 PM

2018-08-08T19:32:40-04:00

The "deploy or get out" is mainly for those that have been on long term profiles and are deemed non-deployable.

Response by MAJ Byron Oyler made Aug 8 at 2018 7:43 PM

2018-08-08T19:43:17-04:00

A lot of changes are going on with the current leadership and it is not crazy that P2 could be looked at however I feel much of what we are seeing is with the current SMA and new winds bring new leaders with new ideas. Every Army needs people in the rear with the gear and don't see any of what is being talked about being sustainable.

Response by TSgt David Holman made Aug 8 at 2018 8:40 PM

2018-08-08T20:40:23-04:00

There is more to deployability than just the PULHES code. It all comes down to what brings the code under one, and is it compatible with service. For example, chronic lower back pain can cause a L-2, however, you can still deploy with it. If you are on any kind of continual medication (i.e. blood pressure meds) you are a P-2, but you can still deploy. Even bigger ones can be waived if the gaining SGH (medical director) says they have the capability to care for the concern.

Response by SSG Kasius McCall made Aug 9 at 2018 10:19 PM

2018-08-09T22:19:06-04:00

You're still deployable for a lower body perm profile. HOWEVER, I would keep an eye out for this new pt test thing then got going on because there wont be any alternate events from what I've read which is gonna weed perm profiles out.

Response by SGM Bill Frazer made Aug 11 at 2018 10:32 AM

2018-08-11T10:32:54-04:00

Son, I wore glasses all my 22+ yrs in, that is a 2 PULHES- it didn't keep me out of 4 combat deployments/invasions, etc. As for a permanent profile, it would depend on whether or not they can do their job in their MOS or not. CoSA will in enlighten us further down the road.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 13 at 2018 11:04 AM

2018-08-13T11:04:07-04:00

I wouldn't worry about it. They did this once before "Everyone will deploy" I still see slick sleeves walking around at the SR. level. With a PULHES code of 112111 you can still deploy. I've done it 3 times.

Response by SPC(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 16 at 2018 6:26 PM

2018-08-16T18:26:07-04:00

you could deployed but is under what your profile specifly dictates on what you can do or for shorter time period

Response by SFC(P) Richard Warren made Aug 18 at 2018 2:47 AM

2018-08-18T02:47:52-04:00

All those comments aside, those with a 3 code due to a Combat Injury who have been med-boarded and retained, but are non-deployable, are not looked at for separation.

This is for those still serving but never having to deploy.