Does time spent as a Green to Gold Active duty cadet count as enlisted time for OE pay?

2019-05-23T21:04:48-04:00

I am about to graduate and commission in 2 weeks through Green to Gold active duty option. Does those two years count towards my enlisted time period for me to get OE pay? Asking because I will have 3 years 11 months TIS is those two years are not counted.

Response by Capt Daniel Goodman made May 23 at 2019 9:28 PM

2019-05-23T21:28:28-04:00

That's an interesting question I hadn't encountered before, I honestly.don't know...maybe you could call.DFAS.on their toll.free.line and ask,.or.ask your ROTC.senior facukty, perhaps?.I'd seen you'd mentioned DFAS.where you'd sent this thread they have a toll.free,.ive.seen it,.look.it up, call.tjem, and ask to.soeak.with a supervisor and/or.manager, im.sure you could.get the question referred for an answer...alsk, what MOS and branch are you going for?.Are you doing grad school.immediately?.Look up USAF AFIT, and Naval.Postcard School (NPS), youre.allowed to.submit for both as Army for your masters.and PhD, though you'd likely need to do a cop of tours as a company grader first to have a chance...also.submit for military Rhodes scholar, OK? What grades? GPAs? STEM.and non-STEM.coursework have you done this far? Any flight interests, whether pilot.or navigator? Possibly rotary or.fixed wing? Clinical.interests? Hobbies,.reading tastes, sports.esp.martial arts.if any? I have an interest in career/educ stuff, that's why I always ask those things, if he most eager to hear more, hope that was all of.some use and/or interest, OK?

Response by LTC Jason Mackay made May 23 at 2019 10:38 PM

2019-05-23T22:38:27-04:00

2LT Private RallyPoint Member your answer starts on pages 1-6 and 1-11 of the FMR.

Creditable Service: "10. Service as a member of the Army, Navy, or Air Force Reserve Officers’ Training Corps (ROTC), provided the member has concurrent Selected Reserve (drilling status) for duty performed on or after August 1, 1979;"

Recommend you spend a little time reading this as you may have to go through your chain in case Finance doesn't get it on the first go round.

https://www.dfas.mil/militarymembers/payentitlements/Pay-Tables/Basic-Pay/CO_FE.html

The FMR https://comptroller.defense.gov/Portals/45/documents/fmr/current/07a/07a_01.pdf

Edited: I re read your original post. You appear to be 1 month short. If you did not have SMP time, you are out of luck. See if you find something different in the regulation, link attached. Look hard at how the creditable service is computed. Especially if you were DEP or Reserve Component. You are so close, ask for it and let them tell you no.

CO_FE.html

Response by 1LT Private RallyPoint Member made May 23 at 2019 11:37 PM

2019-05-23T23:37:33-04:00

Damn so close! That sucks man. Good luck to you.

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made May 23 at 2019 11:44 PM

2019-05-23T23:44:33-04:00

If you were prior service active duty and went green to gold, you remain on active status while attending school they’ll count.

In the end aside from a small increase in BAH it’s irrelevant so long as you get finance to account for your prior service years (this took me a full year to get fixed you’ll need all your once you commission).

If you look at for example a CPT who has O3E pay, and with let’s say 4 years prior, so he now has 8 years once he pins as a brand new captain. The pay amount for a CPT at 8 years regardless of E status is the same. I was in your boat with only 3 years, but they still count for my time in service.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made May 24 at 2019 12:54 AM

2019-05-24T00:54:33-04:00

When you Commission and arrive to your first unit your time in service will be all jacked up. It's completely normal for prior service accessions. Go see your career counselor and they'll get your pay entry date fixed. If you're lucky you'll have a squared away MPD who will fix it during inprocessing.

Response by CAPT Kevin B. made May 24 at 2019 1:14 AM

2019-05-24T01:14:52-04:00

I was a combination AD/Reserve cycling back and forth during the 'Nam years. Turned out the disbursing side botched it and I had to go a BCNR route to get it locked into O-1E. Two years in total passed by the time everything got fixed. Then the local disbursing officer refused to cut me a check as "No O-1 should have that much money all at once." Had to do a Request Mast to get that idiot fixed. Creditable service for the OE stuff has been around a long time and I'm glad the FM states it better nowadays. Welcome to O'Dom. Be a good Mustanger.